Guild Wars 2

This idea has been brought up many, many times. However a lot of people like this idea and it makes a lot of sense. Yes, they are very polite however I feel like their rage-form or “angry-state” would make a great racial ability/necromancer type of ability (The defaalt necro F1 class skill).

Plus it would open up more variety in the place of their areas being underwater. Plus it would add a second small race to make the Asura not seem so out of place.

The only issue with them is that their skin becomes crusted and uncomfortable out of water, correct? But im sure that could be fixed with some newly added lore. Such as the Asura creating something for them so that they could stay on land etc.

Here’s a short video with more info on them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4mcfaGlwpk

They seem so versatile and fitting as a race. I’d definitely love to roll a Quaggan.

Of all the possible small playable races, Quaggan would be my last choice behind Skritt, Grawl and Hylek.

They are the poster-boys for all the cutesy stuff that makes its way into GW2, and would make the average Pokemon player throw up in their own mouths. They are a pretty passive race, and by all rights should be extinct by now.

If they were implemented as a playable race, I doubt that their rage mechanic would be implemented any other way other than an Elite skill. All of the current races are pretty identical apart from their racial Elites, and I think an extra racial mechanic like the necromancer ability would be tricky to pull off from a balance point of view.

Perhaps their rage could be a purely cosmetic thing, with their appearance changing when they are in and out of combat?

I’d rather play mosquitos than Quaggan.

I hate Quaggan. They’re annoying, ugly, dumb, and forcefully cute. Not to mention, as a species they suck. Any species that’s as weak as they are should have been wiped out by evolution a long time ago. Every single area with water you go to, you have some events that say “help the Quaggan, because they’re little kittenes who get owned by everything”. You know what? I never help the Quaggan. I let them get kidnapped and used as slaves by the Krait. I don’t want to help them. The only reason I ever help Quaggan is if we get that guild challenge where you need to escort the Quaggan in Mt Maelstrom, and even then, I don’t like it. I just want comms.

The only reason I can tolerate the sight of the Quaggan backpack is because I think to myself, that to make that backpack a baby Quaggan had to be skinned and emptied out to make it. That thought usually makes me happy.

TL;DR No, I don’t like Quaggan.

Bright.9160:

I hate Quaggan. They’re annoying, ugly, dumb…

Exactly this. Only fun thing involving quaggans is killing them in WvW.

Bright.9160:

The only reason I can tolerate the sight of the Quaggan backpack is because I think to myself, that to make that backpack a baby Quaggan had to be skinned and emptied out to make it. That thought usually makes me happy

LOL!!!!!!
Yeah forget playing as quaggans, the last thing we need is an excuse for ANet to give us more underwater nonsense.

I completely dislike Quaggans, I’m sorry.
In my opinion they don’t even fit into this game. Their voices annoy me, everything about them annoys me…and seeing these Quaggan bags and hats makes me want to pluck my hair.
If they get added as a race, the game will completely lose on its seriousness…
Come on…just think about it…
“Oh, I made a Quaggan warrior and I have killed an Elder Dragon, cooooooo!!!” :S
Sorry, just no…neither them nor Skritt, it’s too silly and ridiculous…
I want Tengu and Largos. Something serious and cool-looking.

The quaggans are cute I want one as a pet but I would HATE to play one’s personal story…

Elona could bring the undead and the demons as playable race. :P

None of the subraces in the game now would have my interest as a playable race tbh.

Quaggans are too stupid to be a playable race. There, I said it. Quaggan lovers gang up and hate on me. If you wanna be a Quaggan so badly, there are potions in game for that. You can run around saying “Foo on you, Quaggan hater.” To your heart’s content.

I think if Anet wanted to make an underwater race complete with great lore ((The Concordat)) / a sweet potential underwater starter zone ((The deepest part of the sea unknown to the rest of the world)), they would do something new and utilize the Largos. I don’t know about you guys, but an underwater dwelling sleek and sexy race complete with manta ray wings and a voice that’s a mix of Darth Vader and Penelope Cruz beats the HECK out of stupid ’ol Quaggans.

Quaggans and Largos. Two sead-birds, one stone. Id buy char slots for both!

No.

I personally hate the quaggan.

I would rather see Tengu,

Dwarves

Kodan.

Even centaurs as playable races before quaggans.

as much as I can respect OP’s interest in quaggan, I think that any race that is depending on the asura to invent something to make them playable shouldn’t be playable.

If humans can run around with quaggan hats, then quaggans must be able to run around with human hats.

FelixArk.4623:

a voice that’s a mix of Darth Vader and Penelope Cruz

I thought that NPC sounded like Natasha, the evil Russian from the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show…

Look at all that negativity.
I’m not a huge Char fan, but you don’t see me grumping all other the place.

There’s already Asura gates around. It’s not hard to find a place to take a dip- even allowing plenty of choice in salinity, and temperature.

That being said, I wanna see Quaggan added as a playable race. I’m having trouble deciding what class I’d make one- but I am leaving a character slot open, hoping that day will come.

Totally seconding the idea of Largos being included in the package. They’re a bit more intimidating. I wonder if we’re going to see the introduction of new races, with new personal stories, when the campaigns against the other elder dragons start.

I wouldn’t have a problem with a quaggan as playable race… but I doubt I’d play one.

Now on to the discussion:

Their starter area (and lots of their areas) would be heavy on the underwater element, I’d say that underwater combat needs a heavy redesign or at least tweaks before getting to that point, so that there aren’t some professions fundamentally weaker while underwater. Also I’d like at least to have a dual spec/build system for over and underwater, because several builds are dependant on utility and weapon skills, which change or are unavailable while underwater, leaving several builds underperforming while fighting in the water.

Some difficulties I see with their design, their body type makes adapting current armor difficult, and even more making good armor for them that would also look good on other races. Their short arms and legs would seem awkward when wielding weapons and using fast attacks. The asura have a simmilar problem, but since their body is also relatively thin and short, it works by making them attack, and TBH I have to say that asuras attacking with hammers and greatswords have my favorite animations in game, you really see them pulling the weight of the (relatively) huge weapons. Quaggan would be a big challenge for the animators to make work with all the different weapons, IMHO.

The way they speak would be weird when it comes to personal stories… and while I do like the quaggans in the stories, I doubt I could handle a full first third of the story done in pure quaggan (since your char would probably be talking to other quaggans at that point). But I do demand that if they’re added as a playable race, anytime a quaggan player speaks in chat, every instance of “I” and “me” be replaced with “Quaggan” and “foo” and “ooooooo” inserted at random points of every sentence..

The quaggan remind me of Doofus from DuckTales. I don’t want to play as Doofus.

I don’t really see Quaggan being introduced willy-nilly. Making a new race takes a fair amount of work, hence why I expect this to be expansion-level material. There is an underwater elder dragon, though, so at some point we’re gonna see a lot more underwater combat.

I’ve been looking at the world map, trying to figure out what dragon would be fought where. Fun stuff.

This is about the worst thing I’ve seen on the suggestions section.

Whitey.6185:

This is about the worst thing I’ve seen on the suggestions section.

Please note the “(Discussion)” in the title. If you aren’t going to progress this conversation or add any personal points apart from spouting negativity then you dont have to be here.
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Anyway, on topic. I still think they have good potential as a playable race. I just think their racial possibilities are very unique. I mean what can Tengu do? Their birds I get it but… They have nothing unique about them. Just another large animal race. Like the Charr. The Quaggans seem different to any other in-game race and they have very unique features.

No, they are not really the fighting type, and they can barely move on surface. Sure they can fight, but still…no.

Being upset about an optional game feature is like being upset that a buffet table is offering tofu, when you came there for chicken. Nobody’s forcing you to do anything.

Personally, I’m not a big fan of the Tengu design for most of the reasons why I don’t play a Char. Though, I’m sure Anet could make them totes interesting, lore-wise.

Dubh.6359:

Being upset about an optional game feature is like being upset that a buffet table is offering tofu, when you came there for chicken. Nobody’s forcing you to do anything.

Personally, I’m not a big fan of the Tengu design for most of the reasons why I don’t play a Char. Though, I’m sure Anet could make them totes interesting, lore-wise.

Lol I gotta admit, when making the Charr I was hoping I can pull off a Kimahri look. Sadly all the charrs seem to have bad backs and are hunching as they walk :S and the armours dont look good on them…. But Tengu’s look decent, although they looked better in guild wars, now they just look like chickens with their feathers plucked or something. However I would so make that stingray character, the storyline for their race seems great from what that person talked about in the personal story.

Dubh.6359:

Being upset about an optional game feature is like being upset that a buffet table is offering tofu, when you came there for chicken. Nobody’s forcing you to do anything.

If there was no tofu on the table when I arrived, I would be a little annoyed if I had to pay some money towards tofu for the one vegetarian that turned up late.

To be honest I am not fundamentally against any new race being implemented in the game. Quaggan aren’t in the game now, and to create any new race will take a lot of time and money away from other projects within the game.

This is fine, but given the choice I’d prefer other races. Perhaps I am motivated more by the fact I play on the unofficial roleplay server. The prospect of hundreds of Quaggan roleplayers running around trying to be cute with their cooing and fooing is enough to make me book a ticket to Orlando just so I can punch a dolphin at Sea World.

Fun fact: In the art book that comes with the collector’s edition, it says that Quaggan were originally a joke called “Poobags”. They were never intended to be real creatures, but they ended up being refined and worked into the game. Now they have quite a large fan base.

Poobags… sounds like a euphemism for sack of skritt !

I’d honestly really like to play a krytan.

The biggest problem with a lot of these new playable race suggestions is that most of the races that people want in the game have no home/main city, like quaggans, skritt, hylek, etc.

As someone who loves quaggans, I’d say no to them being a playable race. It’s just not practical. Same with hylek, skritt, etc. since in the personal stories they’re all labeled as lesser races. Why would a “lesser” race (species actually) hold the same standing as the current dominant ones? The race I see entering the game from an objective point of view is Tengu, since they already have a huge city/territory (Dominion of Winds) that they alone control.

Vis.8471:

Whitey.6185:

This is about the worst thing I’ve seen on the suggestions section.

Please note the “(Discussion)” in the title. If you aren’t going to progress this conversation or add any personal points apart from spouting negativity then you dont have to be here.
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Anyway, on topic. I still think they have good potential as a playable race. I just think their racial possibilities are very unique. I mean what can Tengu do? Their birds I get it but… They have nothing unique about them. Just another large animal race. Like the Charr. The Quaggans seem different to any other in-game race and they have very unique features.

Well it’s all kinda pointless, the Quaggan are never ever going to be a playable race in GW2 it just doesn’t fit and wouldn’t work.

All these people asking for playable Quaggan, Skritt, Centaurs and the likes are just being silly.

I like the idea of playing an aquatic race for sure, but not sure another “cute” race should be added.

I like the idea of perhaps creating an aquatic race of shamans similar to the norn are that can perhaps turn into lesser aquatic races such as quaggan and krait.

The idea would be to create racial skill where you can turn into other underwater races and these races have unique abilities to what build you are trying to create. This way we can have our “druid” abilities, still have proper armor mechanics, and have a new race all in one.

I like quaggans, they are cute and a bit funny. But… they have no potential as playable at all. Their role is sort of… well, they induce the desire to protect them.
They give an extra incentive to move forward and fight, they are all babylike afterall Almost like parenting instincts.
And seriously… armor would look completely ridiculous on them… and their rage form is quite ugly.

The only races already in the game, but not playable as of yet, I see as having the potential is largos and tengu.

Greyalis.2309:

I like the idea of perhaps creating an aquatic race of shamans similar to the norn are that can perhaps turn into lesser aquatic races such as quaggan and krait.

You mean like the Largos?

Although your idea for transforming into lesser races is utterly pointless to me though. It would just be silly and the last thing this game needs is more silly stuff.

I do not think that Quaggan could ever fit as a playable race. They would be rather silly as an add, since they are basically harmless creatures, quite defenceless most of the time, as we can see from all the events where we are called to protect/rescue them around. To my eyes, a race like this would turn the game into something a bit too childish and the game would lose a lot in seriousness with them as a playable race, but this is my personal view, no offence meant towards anyone.
Besides, I really don’t see much customization for the characters, I just don’t see what features might be added to make them more different one another…considering they are rather simple-designed.
Largos and Tengu are certainly the more likely adds as playable race, this has largely been discussed in Lore, and most of us had to agree that neither Quaggan nor Skritt and such, will/should ever become a playable race for this game.

Lodovicus.1562:

Dubh.6359:

Being upset about an optional game feature is like being upset that a buffet table is offering tofu, when you came there for chicken. Nobody’s forcing you to do anything.

The prospect of hundreds of Quaggan roleplayers running around trying to be cute with their cooing and fooing is enough to make me book a ticket to Orlando just so I can punch a dolphin at Sea World.

I haven’t laughed that hard in a long time. That was great. I suppose a racial locked quote would be irritating however I still find the Asura’s arrogance to be far more irritating than a singular word.

Quaggans are written to be weak, helpless and for the most part, useless (this is also reflected in their design with their tiny limbs and plump bodies). Thats why when they actually DO something its a big deal. So no, I would not want to play as one.

The last thing we need is more of those annoying dumb morons running around, trying to be cute, and getting kidnapped and enslaved by Krait at every opportunity. And the way they talk is even more annoying: “Ooooh, Quaggan in trouble! Booogalooosh!”

Seriously, Quaggans should be killable ambient creatures. I would organize Quaggan killing expeditions myself on a daily basis, to rid Tyria of these abominations.

Bright.9160:

Greyalis.2309:

I like the idea of perhaps creating an aquatic race of shamans similar to the norn are that can perhaps turn into lesser aquatic races such as quaggan and krait.

You mean like the Largos?

Although your idea for transforming into lesser races is utterly pointless to me though. It would just be silly and the last thing this game needs is more silly stuff.

I don’t know, I kinda like the idea..

I’d make it something like being able to mimic different creatures (I wouldn’t leave it to minor races, but any creature in the game), kinda like the way the thief steals weapons, but instead have it so that if it touches a creature, it gains the ability to temporarely transform into that creature with different skills, but only the 1-5 skills, with the rest of the skills unavailable (kinda like going into costume brawls)

I’d probably play one..