The patch will introduce ascended items. Ascended armors are “slightly more powerful than exotics” and can, in some cases, hold slots for infusions. Infusions will allow you to increase your character’s power.
I hate the idea of – more powerful than exotics – thats not the Guid Wars philosophy. Please don’t make it like WoW:(:(
so… when a game gets new content like stronger gear it will become too much like wow?
i like the idea of better gear and in my opinion gw2 will still stay itself.
Yeah, didn’t know we were getting better armor but that makes it more exciting! I don’t know why you’d complain though, exotics are already easy to get and unless you do WvW, it’s not really a competition, it just makes everything we do right now easier (with the exceptions of the new content. But doesn’t it feel better to have a “slight” progresson so now the dungeons or PvE stuff you do are slightly easier than before. Idk, it just feels nice to know you can do more dmg.
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Trivializing gameplay just makes the game more hoopy then good. You just have more hoops to jump through. Following in the wake of WoW and other MMOs, here’s basically GW2 as it follows. . .
Right now we all have exotics so everything is known difficulty. Now better gear is there, everyone does that[those] dungeon[s] until they get it. Everyone ignores the easier dungeons, and either the easier dungeons get a “hard” mode or new harder dungeons are added. You hit the regular gravelings in exotic armour for 500, you hit the regular gravelings in ascended armour for 600. You hit the new gravelings in ascended armour for 600, but they have 6’000 HPs instead of 5’000.
In the end, you’re at the same point, but you had to grind to get there. Honestly, just about every gear based MMO would die overnight if everything was switched from numbers to percentages, because you’d be hitting that end game demon boss for .5% of it’s HP a second, the same as you were hitting that stupid first boss when your group fought it.
new gear means older gear being obsolete such as exotics. This is turning the WoW direction. What are they gonna do next add a Gear Score to new stuff. So those that do not reach the minimal Requirements of GS can not participate in any group runs?
Yes, new gear progression, that’s exactly what I want.
Just because Guild wars 2 now have gear progression, it will not turn into WOW. In the other post, people say that raid is the thing that could turn guild wars 2 into WOW. In another post, people claim that mount will turn GW2 into WOW. Stop giving WOW so much credit, they didn’t invent everything on RPG elements.
“What happens if they introduce a new massive expansion and push the level cap? I cannot even begin to imagine the QQ rage.”
I could imagine you’d see a lot of WoWonites and the freebie asian MMO players jump onto GW2, and their current playerbase leaving.
Wouldn’t the lvl 80’s like to have something to do? How long can you coast on your lvl 80 exotics really, it has to get boring sometime.
That is something for Arenanet to figure out BEFORE they market a game as being based on certain PRINCIPLES. They don’t get to betray all their customers and their game philosophy for a few bored loudmouths. Otherwise they should expect a backlash. We will see how this shakes out and if the price Anet pays for this will have been worth it.
“Otherwise, your MMO becomes all about grinding to get the best gear. We don’t make grindy games.”
-Mike Obrien, President of Arenanet
why would they do this? GW1 was perfectly fine for over 7years with everyone at level20 and all had maxed weapons/armor… its skin that they should add (hard to get ones not those that take you 3 days with stupid dungeon tokens)… very disappointed and what is exotic good for? Mystic forge………….BS if u ask me.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
“Wouldn’t the lvl 80’s like to have something to do? How long can you coast on your lvl 80 exotics really, it has to get boring sometime.”
By doing jump puzzles? By helping friends? By leveling alts? By doing titles? By maxing dyes? By playing the game? By enjoy myself? By getting all the armours? By collecting all weapons? By doing pvp? By joining WvW? By increasing my guild? By maxing out my bank? By getting more sets of exotics? By doing events? By getting all legendaries? By going through new content as it’s added? By gearing my alts? By trying out new suits of armour to make new designs? By seeing what I can do? By playing the game like I am currently doing and enjoy myself.
In other words. What lead EVERYONE through all the years of GW1 without EVER getting a new piece of gear.
Great. Welcome to the gear grind. And here I thought I was playing GW2 to escape this kind of thing.
I was having a lot of fun building up my character’s skins, running dungeons with friends and going at my own pace. But the gear treadmill was apparently more important than the principles the game was based upon. My enthusiasm just tanked.
Why just Ascended new armors have the infusion slot? Why not add the infusion slot to all rare and exotic armors too? Let Ascended armors be just a “new option” for armors not a “must have”.
Im fine with new armor being introduced, just as long as it doesn’t take massive amount of grinding to acquire a full set. This probably won’t be introduced into sPvP either, and any low level WvW’s should have their own teamates with this new upgraded armor to defend them.
And for now, everyone should stop QQ and wait till it comes out, for all we know the stats may be minimal and infusion slot may be for pve only bonus, etc, etc….
This armor may also function like infusing armor in GW1, where you just took your armor and had it upgraded easily.
Oh god, here goes my reason why I played gw2 (to play PvP and not worry about having to re-grind for item sets over and over). Also, thanks for making all the saved up money I just spent on exotics TRUSTING IN YOUR STATEMENTS, ARENANET, useless soon. Whatever the next thing is you develope and want money for, you will have to do without mine.
Colin ‘The Liar’ Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on equal power base.”
Oh god, here goes my reason why I played gw2 (to play PvP and not worry about having to re-grind for item sets over and over). Also, thanks for making all the saved up money I just spent on exotics TRUSTING IN YOUR STATEMENTS, ARENANET, useless soon. Whatever the next thing is you develope and want money for, you will have to do without mine.
You dont even know how there going to bring this feature into the game. Best to cool down till some info is actually released.
You dont even know how there going to bring this feature into the game. Best to cool down till some info is actually released.
This. Let us make something clear , Anet never said they would not add something strong than exo. What said is that we would always be able to get max stats gear in many ways.
Therefore , what is the problem if this add new gear kind? Does not break any promise if we can still get it many ways.
Just wait and see people , we are almost there.
Gear Grind: Confirmed – Searching New MMO: Found – Changing MMO: Waiting Launch
So many people don’t understand that a gear treadmill is just an illusion of progress…
I could have you stack rocks then ask you to leave the room and put all the rocks back and ask you to stack them again. Would you feel like you made progress because you stacked two piles of rocks?
Grinding another set of gear just to play the game is unacceptable. Design better content. Leave the gear a lone. There isn’t even enough content to justify playing the game as it is now and you add one dungeon and a new gear grind…
Awesome.
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The patch will introduce ascended items. Ascended armors are “slightly more powerful than exotics” and can, in some cases, hold slots for infusions. Infusions will allow you to increase your character’s power.
I hate the idea of – more powerful than exotics – thats not the Guid Wars philosophy. Please don’t make it like WoW:(:(
It’s still guild wars philosophy.
Players really shouldn’t worry because it’s not gear treadmill.
It’s very different from traditional mmo. (my explanation below)
In traditional mmo, you must grind for new tier equipments to experience new and higher content X. That is called “gear treadmill” where you you must grind endlessly if you want to catch up to new content. In this game, no matter which tier you’re wearing, you’re still able to experience every world content and dungeons this game has to offer. I don’t think casual players should worry about it. The game still live up to it’s promises no matter if they unlock ascended.
It’s still guild wars philosophy.
Players really shouldn’t worry because it’s not gear treadmill.
It’s very different from traditional mmo. (my explanation below)
In traditional mmo, you must grind for new tier equipments to experience new and higher content X. That is called “gear treadmill” where you you must grind endlessly if you want to catch up to new content. In this game, no matter which tier you’re wearing, you’re still able to experience every world content and dungeons this game has to offer. I don’t think casual players should worry about it. The game still live up to it’s promises no matter if they unlock ascended.
IF , only IF , this gear with best stats is only obtainable from this dungeon , i will reconsider to keep playing this game , since to me that would be a major disappointment and would down this game to the level of all other MMOs, still that is only IF , the armor really only comes from that dungeon. There is no proof it does yet.
Dunno why people are going nuts before they can be sure the problem actually exists.
Gear Grind: Confirmed – Searching New MMO: Found – Changing MMO: Waiting Launch
I am personally for better stats on gear. Exotic armor aren’t difficult at all to obtain and just getting that slight boost for us end-game players would give us something to look forward to.
so… when a game gets new content like stronger gear it will become too much like wow?
i like the idea of better gear and in my opinion gw2 will still stay itself.
2 words, Gear Treadmill
Something that guild wars 2 doesn’t have at the moment but if this continues this will become like WoW’s gear system. Which is grindy as hell.
Everyone here needs to check out the new post and the screen shot of the ascended item. First off, I doubt the caps for Spvp item stats will be raised, so no changes there.
Second, based off the picture, its looks like the first tier of ascended weapons have a small bit more stats than others, but at the same time have infusion slots for agony monster resistance and most likely even less flexibility with stats, seeing you can’t adjust the normal upgrade slot.
ALSO there are only rings and back slot items currently, with rings only obtainable through the dungeon and back slots in Mystic forge, probably created also from items in dungeon.
Some gear grind, but if its equal to other amount of grinding in other dungeons then it is completely and easily do-able with in a week for any organized player.
Now I know I should bring this to a new thread but…Agony=Spectral Agony for GW1 mursaat? So we may be learning about the origins of mursaat and other related creatures…. Maybe.
As far as i can understand, Ascended are just a bit beter than exotics, with the GEM of the ring inside the base stat instead of an upgrade slot (which doesnt make it really stronger), with a new special slot for Agony resistance, to fight agaisnt the new agony condition from the only new dungeon.
Basicly same gear with +2 stats everywhere and agony resistance.
Why is everybody complaining about that when people will still farm exotics for the looks.
The ascended item shown is 10% better, and it actually tries to mask a potential higher difference because it’s an ‘explorer’ item which uses MF for its primary stat, which is hard to compare here (similar to how 1 crit dam is about as much ‘worth’ in stat point tax on an item as around 20 points of another stat), so if we see for example a comparison of a ‘knights’ item, it might reveal that ascended items are even >10% in gain.
Colin ‘The Liar’ Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on equal power base.”
“This. Let us make something clear , Anet never said they would not add something strong than exo. What said is that we would always be able to get max stats gear in many ways.”
They kind did multiple times with the whole “casual friendly no grind no increase in stats ever” statements they’ve been blasting for years.
But then I guess those people got fired to make way for the more gear grindy wannabe’s in the company. Or they got converted. . .
Great, now I think ANet is invasion of the pod people 6.6
:(:(