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Posted by: Big Tower.5423

Big Tower.5423

Hello guys, im Thokir Deathbolt, a thief from far shiverpeaks, and i tought thief is broken, as right now we are only viable at ONE thing and that is small scale wvwvw, thats why these kids cry about nerfs. We need both buffs and nerfs. Il start out with the buffs.
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BUFF:
First i tought we might need to increase our amount of viable weapon combinations as right now we have 3 out of 7 weaponcombinations viable for direct damage, which is unacceptable. il start out with the shortbow.
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Shortbow:
Autoattack needs 1200 range AND better damage/refire rate.
And instead of a poison field we could get a smoke field, and no it wouldnt be op dude to blast finisher only providing 1 second of stealth. i know we loose aoe weakness but i prefer aoe stealth for short duration. this would certainly make shortbow more viable.
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Main hand pistol:
Autoattack needs instant cast, body shot needs to be a 600 range targeted intant teleport with no additional effects.
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Dual skill for sword dagger pistolwhip
Pistolwhip needs to remove the evade and the root.
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Ok guys that was the weapons, the last buff we now need is moving a tier up on hp, i know thief is meant to be the sqishy guy, but hey we are a primlary melee class.
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Ok guys, here comes the nerfs..
NERFS:
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Blackpowder needs one second less duration. and each time a thief enters stealth he get a 15 vuln equal to how long he stack it. cloak and dagger needs to not apply vuln.
and pistol stealth attack needs to make the player stationary for the fire and cripple him for 4 seconds. but apply 2 more bleedstacks. (shadowsteps blocked for the cripple duration)


Isnt much, but it would fix the thief competly, make us a viable choice for both pve, wvwvw and spvp. and not to op in roaming. but still the best

7800 hours ingame, and counting.

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Posted by: Big Tower.5423

Big Tower.5423

Btw sry, my main language is norwigian and im twelve so i have a kind of a bad english, and i didnt look over the post so be prepared for that.

7800 hours ingame, and counting.

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Posted by: Ruby Highfarm.6073

Ruby Highfarm.6073

Most of these ideas are in my opinion just bad. The nerfs would also be too strong. It would actually make it more beneficial to never stealth.
The only thing i really agree on is perhaps the pistol autoattack and the Pistol Whip.

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Posted by: Big Tower.5423

Big Tower.5423

I disargee, it will open for more counterplay and more skilled play.

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Posted by: Zorby.8236

Zorby.8236

Thief has highest single target dps, pretty handy in boss fights. 15 vouln on stealth? What? I’ll agree though that some weapon sets need some love, otherwise thief is pretty ok.

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Posted by: WhiteAndMilky.2514

WhiteAndMilky.2514

You play thief yet you seem to know little about it. Thief has many viable builds and variations, even large scale combat ones. Maybe you don’t enjoy those builds, but they ARE very viable. Its weapon sets actually are pretty different from each other.

But you’re forgetting that you are playing a class that was designed to be an assassin. If you want it to not be an assassin, and play more like one of the other classes…then go PLAY ONE OF THOSE CLASSES.

It takes about a day and a half of pve to make a new level 80, and you can run dungeons for levels/gear while you are doing it.

Thief doesn’t need buffing or nerfing.

I play all the things 80. Pew Pew Pew. Killin joor commanders.
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Posted by: emadc.7680

emadc.7680

It takes about a day and a half of pve to make a new level 80, and you can run dungeons for levels/gear while you are doing it.

Thief doesn’t need buffing or nerfing.[/quote]

A day and half of pve to make a new level 80?!!!! Are you serious?

Dan

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Posted by: Hitman.5829

Hitman.5829

lmao 100 list to buff the thief and only 2 or 3 things to nerf the thief. Talk about Bias!

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Posted by: Amadan.9451

Amadan.9451

i wouldn’t apply condition on stealth since thief are no guardian with easy condition removal and it would be suicidal to have even more condition in pvp just for some second of stealth.
shortbow should be faster though because as it is is slow as a ranger long bow, but almost at melee range. it’s really good only for farming with zergs. but i don’t see other uses of it beside the combofields

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Posted by: Naz.2607

Naz.2607

I wish e1 would quit complaining about what makes this class so great.

Thief is a wonderfully unique class and the only thing that needs to be nerfed is the ability to crit 100% from stealth. That’s it. Nice n Simple.. Takes care of a lot there.

I totally agree with more weapon combinations though. Getting boring at this point.

P/P thief, however, needs to be more viable. Buffs/fixes are needed there.
The only thing my p/p thief does is gather………… nodes and, unfortunately…dust…

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Posted by: stale.9785

stale.9785

As someone who mained a ranger until a couple months ago – no, thief shouldn’t have a shortbow that not only outperforms the ranger’s (which it does right now) but has greater range as well. Just no.

Other than that, I like the ideas. I’m just tired of every other ranged weapon (other than ele’s staff) being better than the ranger’s options. Buffing the other ranged weapons to even further outstrip the theoretical master of ranged combat rubs me wrong.