Trading system, why there should be one!

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Posted by: Kirto Alexana.3149

Kirto Alexana.3149

I recently stumbled accross a topic on the forums that was about a player wanting to trade Dawn for Dusk, he had trouble finding people so he posted it on the forums. This made me think, shouldn’t there be a trading system of some kind? I once had a problem like this before. I wanted to trade ugly wool socks for ugly wool hats during the wintersday event. I started asking my guildmates if they wanted to trade, It took long, but I found somebody, and then ended up having to mail it to my trading partner. Most people would say " It’s not such a big deal, is it?", but think of how much easier it could be!

In the first place you aren’t certain you get what you wish for. Say the guy I mentioned before wants to trade Dawn for Dusk, after a long and exhaustive search he finally finds a trading partner, he’s so happy that he sends Dawn immediatly, and then starts waiting patiently for Dusk. He waits and waits and then realizes he has been set up! His ‘trading partner’ turned out to be a liar that just wanted a cheap precursor!

This might not happen a lot, but the fact that it could happen is simply unacceptable, with just a new tab on the trading post where people can look for a trading partner or the possibility for players to arrange a trade themselves with a trading system would prevent this kind of situations.

In the second place, the current ‘trade with mail’ system is simply unpractical. You have to ask around and hope the people you’re talking to are interested in trading at all, and then you have to wait for your partner to send you something, a trading system would solve this, a good trading system with some great innovations could even make trading popular! Maybe a tab on the trading post, as I stated before, where people have access to people willing to trade and where they could say what they want would make the difference. I’ve seen enough people asking for a trade and getting no response in return. That’s really frustrating for them, and spending precious time asking people to trade is not fun, just not fun at all!

Guild Wars 2 has been criticized multiple times for lacking a trading system. WoW has a trading system, other MMO’s have a trading system, so why doesn’t Guild Wars 2 have one?

What do you guys think? Should there be a trading system in the future or not? Let the world know!

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Posted by: Raine Akrune.8416

Raine Akrune.8416

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Posted by: Kirto Alexana.3149

Kirto Alexana.3149

Apparently, my topic came out a minute after Raine Akrune’s topic came out, make sure you check both topics to hear both opinions of Raine Akrune and mine!

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Posted by: Raine Akrune.8416

Raine Akrune.8416

Yup, it just goes to show you while people may find different issues they all lead to the same conclusion: Add a trade option!

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Posted by: MithranArkanere.8957

MithranArkanere.8957

There is a trade system.

It’s called Black Lion Trading Post.

Why not person-to-person trading?
Because that would allow elitist micro-economies lead by third-party auction sites with no risk of scam to exist. And controlling the economy being harder.
Auctions are very bad for economies. We do not need them.

If you have a trusted friend, you can use the mail. If you just want profit, you can use the trading post.

That works.

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Posted by: Raine Akrune.8416

Raine Akrune.8416

There is a trade system.

It’s called Black Lion Trading Post.

Why not person-to-person trading?
Because that would allow elitist micro-economies lead by third-party auction sites with no risk of scam to exist. And controlling the economy being harder.
Auctions are very bad for economies. We do not need them.

If you have a trusted friend, you can use the mail. If you just want profit, you can use the trading post.

That works.

Please check the link I posted so you can see exactly why there is a need and the flaw in your post. While you may disagree with people trying to sell things outside the TP, it already happens! People mail things back and forth, the problem is the mail system is not protected so on the off chance you mail some crafting mats to a trusted friend and the game bugs your screwed. There is no way to get them refunded/returned through ANet.

People looking to get things crafted regularly need to have a safer means of trading materials to other players.

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Posted by: wouw.5837

wouw.5837

BLTP is alot easier, sell what you want to trade and use the money to buy what you want.

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Posted by: Raine Akrune.8416

Raine Akrune.8416

BLTP is alot easier, sell what you want to trade and use the money to buy what you want.

That still does not solve anything involving the transfer of crafting materials between players. The idea that crafting is solely in game for your own personal gain and to sell items on the BLTP is crazy. There still needs to be a solid system for people to trade between themselves and not the Big Brother Market.

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Posted by: MithranArkanere.8957

MithranArkanere.8957

Why?
The ‘Big Brother’ market helps keeping the economy in check, and creating ‘profit loops’ much harder.

In GW1, people could trade directly even items that had a trader. As a result, quite often many people avoided the trader altogether.
The trader still set bare minimum prices (why would you buy from the one selling at 10K if it’s at 8K in the trader?) but since the trader chances prices depending on what people sells to them, as few people sold to the trader, the trader kept high prices that didn’t reflect the actual drop rates.
Also, since you could trade items for items, and there was so many waaay effectively farming builds, those two issues worked together to create such a massive inflation that gold became practically useless, and people used items as coins instead.

The problems a completely free player-to-player system generate greatly outweigh the benefits.

The closest thing to what you suggest that I would agree with is setting a name to an offer when you put it on sale in the trading post, so they get it in the ‘received’ box in the trading post under a subsection, with a button on their right to affect the offer.
If they accept the offer, the costs for the transaction are deduced, they get the item, and you get the money, if they reject the offer, both money and item are sent back to your own received box.

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Posted by: Kirto Alexana.3149

Kirto Alexana.3149

Any form of trading system would be great, I’d love to see a player to player trading system, it worked in other MMO’s and didn’t cause an economic instability that went out of control did it? If it works there, it should work fine in guild wars 2 too I think, but still, everyone’s opinion is appreciated.

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Posted by: Xolotl.5812

Xolotl.5812

i like the idea of a trading system but it will only lead to more spam in lions arch and everywhere else so i rather not have it

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Posted by: Kirto Alexana.3149

Kirto Alexana.3149

Nah, I think that won’t happen…

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Posted by: Catisa.6507

Catisa.6507

Let’s say they were to add a personal trade option … now what do we do about all the

WTS: xxxx

WILLING TO BUY: dddddd

SELLING CHEAPEST XXXX

and on and on scrolling by faster then you can see spam that gw1 was plagued with?

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