Warrior vs Engineer in PVE

Warrior vs Engineer in PVE

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Posted by: Merwenus.7108

Merwenus.7108

My friend is a warrior, who always says “I AM A WARRIOR, I DO NOT HAVE TO DODGE OUT OF RED CIRCLES” and we laugh about it, he rarely dodges, and yes he survives all the time with his 4 signets warrior build while tanking the boss.
I tried out the warrior after these dungeon encounters, to see how good it is.

First of all, my main is an engineer who can only use rifle/pistol/shield as a weapon. So I was just shocked when I saw that warrior who can use almost all of the weapons, has a better auto attack on rifle.
WR1200 Range, Bleed
Engi1000 Range, nothing

Just tested it out, I have to “waste” 2 high tier traits to get 1200 Range, and as much damage as warrior do normally with rifle.

But it is not even the strangest thing, my girlfriend started a Guardian, she was 2levels higher than my warrior. With the signet I regenerated 39HP each seconds, with the GUARDIAN she did only 19HP. What the hell is that for? I know we are at a low lvl, but engineer should have a better rifle management, and guardian should have a better passive heal, because it is their profession….

Then I watched this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVpbXnKHLrE

And all I thought about it wasn’t the “farming”, not even how much money they made, BUT the damage he did.

This warrior has a full DPS (berserker) build. Has over 19k HP, with 3 signets, he does more than 4k Damage/Second with the auto attack and 20-26k damage with a low cooldown skill (6s).
I traited my engineer full DPS grenadier build for dungeons, with full berserker stats, doing 25stacks vulnerability normally and I do around 3k damage, my best grenade skill is doing MAX 10k every 30 seconds. I have 4k less HP (15k), I have to spam all my skills, and ruining my keyboard, because I have no auto attack I HAVE to press the skills every seconds, and I HAVE to AIM, because when the boss is running around, I just can’t predict where he will move, and miss 30% of the grenades.

My friend said he is regenerating 500HP+ passively every second with his healing signet. So the warrior has almost 20k HP, regenerating 500HP/s (10khp/20s) and his auto attack does more damage, what a full DPS engineer can ever do. My heal does just over 5k every 20 seconds.

I know only 2 members are working on skills/balance, but are we the only one who think they just ignore how OP the warrior is? I just feel bad for rangers, who thought they get buff, but got nothing, but they buffed the warriors bow skill, because nobody used it….

Elementalist supposed to be the main DPS, my girlfriend do 3k damage with traited staff fire auto attack. She is squishy because of full berserker, she has only 13k HP heals 5khp/25s, but she has water where she can heals +1k every 20 seconds, and 2,5k every 45 seconds. (300/s but with 3 skills, and 2 elements)

DO NOT NERF the WARRIOR, made the other classes up to warrior, worth making other than warrior, I want at least 5k damage/s with grenades in PVE, because I HAVE to aim, I HAVE to dodge, I HAVE to ruin my keyboard by pressing 1 twice a second, or make it following the target like the rifle/bow.

TL;DR – Make a WARRIOR, in PVP you can kill in 2 skills, in PVE you do the highest AOE damage, you have the highest HP, you have the highest HP regen.

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Posted by: nofo.8469

nofo.8469

Warriors being better in PvE than pretty much every other class is nothing new.

PvP, most warriors don’t know how to use a rifle and zone engineers so be thankful. Though if they try to melee a good engi down they will probably die.

Engineer rifle being terrible for doing damage is a problem inherent with the way the class is designed.

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Posted by: Nox Aeterna.2965

Nox Aeterna.2965

Honestly , there are many balance issues , and warrior are pretty good with a minimal effort, but you clearly at best understand just a scrape of it all OP, sorry to break it up to you.

There is MUCH more to consider than what a skill can do if all you consider is the direct damage. You need to look at the overall picture, how each skill can be used with which other, the traits behind them that again change this and so on.

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Posted by: dragoncybor.1342

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a warrior does not have a better auto attack with a rifle. engineers do. In the same berserker gear engineers auto attack for far more than a rifle warriors auto attack.

Your next point about his dps. Yes a glass cannon warrior hits that hard but has no room for error in surviving. A boss takes one look at him and hes down. Take path 2 cof for example, hes dead in seconds on the kite.

An engineer puts out those numbers too wit a rifle just in a different way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQqh1deOtRk is a prime example.

A staff elementalist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTrBL9TgOx0&feature=relmfu

prime example of it takes practice and some fine tuning to do well since its one of the harder classes to play. If you don’t like staff anymore I can find some for scepter/dagger or dagger/dagger.

They buffed warriors longbow auto attack thats all. People do use longbow on warriors too. Basically the build revolves around condition warriors burning and bleeding. It does take more skill though to use it though.

PVP: warrior hundred blades while strong without bola and bulls charge u won’t hit a person unless you have help. Guardians make far tougher opponents with less hp thanks to all there survival skills. Regen is nothing when poison can be maintained. Your example of a warrior would not survive even a 1 v1 in pvp especially tournaments where alot of the great pvpers show up. Group wise he’d be useless in pvp. Highest aoe is also doubtful. The other classes put up similar numbers and without sacrificing utility

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Posted by: Wanko.8103

Wanko.8103

Engy is not a DPS class, nothing new.