Guild Wars 2

I’m not sure why Warriors can’t use pistols. They are the masters of weapons, right? They also have the best rifle skills in the game. I would love to have a sword/pistol warrior.!

Warriors already have half again the number of weapon combinations than everyone else… They don’t need more.

I can’t see it at all.

And besides, they do have more than enough weapon skills already.

The engineers were going to have heavy armor. But I guess a-net doesn’t want characters with shields, good range, heavy armor, high vitality, and mobility. I mean, look what they did to guardians range/shield combo.

Thematically, it’s because warriors aren’t a “finesse” profession. Longbows and Rifles? These are weapons that to use effectively require not much in the way of manual dexterity or pinpoint accuracy. It’s a big gun that’s relatively easy to use wearing all that armor, or it’s a big bow that you don’t point at things so much as general directions.

Yeah, I know, Warriors have killshot etc. etc. but that’s just general QOL.

Wielding any weapon smaller than a mace is just extremely counter to the entire concept of the class. It’d be like giving them daggers. Neither of these is a big hitting bruisery weapon.

Ehhh…talk to a hunter or a sniper some time Pope…rifles take far more finesse than a pistol. If you are going to take a kill shot at max range for a weapon (say 1200 yards for many rifles, which is why I find it so amusing rifle has 1200 range in game) you need muscle control far superior than a pistol…that you are lucky to hit someone at 30 yards with where you want to hit them (ie aiming specifically for the left leg).

You are really saying a longbow doesn’t require finesse? You’ve just angered every archer in the world with THAT comment lol, and fired a shot at Robin Hood’s legacy (he was a master archer and marksman with…the longbow!).

I wouldn’t say rifles take more finesse. I know a lot of Marines that qualify expert with rifle but less-than-expert with pistol. Myself included. The sling helps a lot with the rifle. then there are different positions you can fire the rifle from that increase stability.

The disadvantage pistols have over rifles is that if you use them one handed, you need to train for consistant muscle memory in your wrist, hand and shoulder. where as rifles have the other stabalizers. The pistol also has other disavantages like natural body reaction to close quarter threats. This is why a lot of militaries train for point shooting with the pistol. Because conditions will seldom be ideal to shoot at marksmanship level of sight shooting. But a rifle has multiple reliable options. But you may have a point about the longbow.

Runiir.6425:

Ehhh…talk to a hunter or a sniper some time Pope…rifles take far more finesse than a pistol. If you are going to take a kill shot at max range for a weapon (say 1200 yards for many rifles, which is why I find it so amusing rifle has 1200 range in game) you need muscle control far superior than a pistol…that you are lucky to hit someone at 30 yards with where you want to hit them (ie aiming specifically for the left leg).

You are really saying a longbow doesn’t require finesse? You’ve just angered every archer in the world with THAT comment lol, and fired a shot at Robin Hood’s legacy (he was a master archer and marksman with…the longbow!).

I’m really saying that firing a longbow or rifle at range with both hands is much, much easier than firing a pistol at range. I’m saying that a pistol (or dagger for that matter) is not a soldier’s weapon.This is why military personnell are issues and trained with rifles and only given cursory handgun training as they’re unlikely to ever be in a situation to use the handgun except as a backup.

Luckily, in the world of Tyria weapons never run out of ammo unless the plot requires it (convenient and useful that. I’d hate to calculate how much I’d have spent on ammo otherwise) Any weapon you use in GW2 IS a primary weapon.

Again, Warriors are neither hunters nor snipers. You don’t need to be either to use those weapons. In fact, the average longbowman fired in to the air at an angle in massed fire to just blanket the enemy without aiming at anything, and the earliest firearms were so inaccurate they were used in almost exactly the same way.

Exceptionally trained individuals are just that. Rangers are exceptionally trained bowmen in GW2 for example.

The point is that GW2 Warriors are a “brute force” class. They’re not grounded in skill, or magic, they’re grounded in rigorous field drills and just plain being tough as nails. They’re only exceptional because they’re stronger and louder than their counterparts and it has yielded results. Longbows and rifles are both absolutely big brute fore ranged weapons. Pistols and daggers would be as out of place on the warrior as a scepter. it doesn’t fit the class’ theme. Get it?

Guardians have Mace/Scepter.
Warriors have off-hand mace.
Engineers have Pistol/Shield.
Rangers have Axe/Torch.
Thieves have Dagger/Pistol.
Elementalists have Scepter/Dagger.
Mesmers have Scepter/Pistol.
Necromancers have Axe/Dagger.

So in essence, every class has some combination that only they can use. I think that’s wonderful and should not be taken away.

By allowing Warriors to have pistols, you would let them have Pistol/Pistol, Pistol/Shield, Sword/Pistol, and a bunch of combinations that don’t even exist currently.

The thing is, if you added those, Warriors would have much more skills to choose from than any other race. Also, the new sets would need new traits, which means Warriors would also have more traits to choose from. And with that we eventually end up with Warriors having more trait points to allocate than everyone else.

You can’t add new weapons without giving the proper support with traits. Of course this means that any new weapon means that everyone gets new traits. And we already have a lot of traits which should be tweaked, so let’s not add to that problem.

I think warriors just dont fill the whole pistol theme. They are brutes, what brute is gana walk around with a squirt gun? They want the big shotgun or a rocket launcher.

Not to mention how many weapons warrior’s already have. I’m positive engineer and elementalists need more weapon options (get them away from d/d …) and thief could use more.

Here you go warriors… now you can have everything:
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Oh wait, I’ve got one for the mesmers, too:
http://www.fun2video.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/funny-gun.jpg

:-D

ok guys warriors can use pistols if your race is a charr and your name is Rytlock Brimstone. no but seriously he is a warrior that uses a pistol.

Technically all char can use use a pistol with the racial utility skill. really don’t think warriors need any new weapons other than a dang 2h axe…given that our proffession page shows a warrior holding a 2h axe on his shoulder!

Oh, I’ve said already that warriors don’t fit the theme of the pistol, was just poking at the idea that rifles/longbows required less finesse.

In all honesty…speaking as someone who actually fights with melee weapons in tournaments (yes, bladed and fully armored) a dagger is a thug’s weapon that requires no “finesse” to use properly or efficiently. By comparison you actually need a LOT of finesse to use axes properly and efficiently and even more finesse to use a longsword, kitten sword, or claymore (the real name for greatsword). Finesse is your ability to use a weapon not naturally balanced all that great in a well balanced manner while making dexterous and accurate attacks with calculated timing. A dagger is a slashing quick weapon that is mere inches from your hand making it exeedingly simple to make targetted attacks with. Me thinks far too many people have been brainwashed by reading assassin books and from the longstanding brainwashing MMO games use for why rogues get to do these big backstab damage skills (also of note, if one is skilled enough to "backstab with a dagger…they would choose to do so with a shortsword for a far more likely a chance at ensuring it was fatal in one blow, dagger wounds are notoriously survivable).

If you get pistols, necromancers get rifles. It makes an equal amount of sense.

Runiir.6425:

Technically all char can use use a pistol with the racial utility skill. really don’t think warriors need any new weapons other than a dang 2h axe…given that our proffession page shows a warrior holding a 2h axe on his shoulder!

Oh, I’ve said already that warriors don’t fit the theme of the pistol, was just poking at the idea that rifles/longbows required less finesse.

In all honesty…speaking as someone who actually fights with melee weapons in tournaments (yes, bladed and fully armored) a dagger is a thug’s weapon that requires no “finesse” to use properly or efficiently. By comparison you actually need a LOT of finesse to use axes properly and efficiently and even more finesse to use a longsword, kitten sword, or claymore (the real name for greatsword). Finesse is your ability to use a weapon not naturally balanced all that great in a well balanced manner while making dexterous and accurate attacks with calculated timing. A dagger is a slashing quick weapon that is mere inches from your hand making it exeedingly simple to make targetted attacks with. Me thinks far too many people have been brainwashed by reading assassin books and from the longstanding brainwashing MMO games use for why rogues get to do these big backstab damage skills (also of note, if one is skilled enough to "backstab with a dagger…they would choose to do so with a shortsword for a far more likely a chance at ensuring it was fatal in one blow, dagger wounds are notoriously survivable).

I think people forget that the biggest advantage to a dagger is the ability to conceal it. which is why assasins in stories are often carrying them. In other stories where conceal isn’t an issue, like The Scorpion King, swords do get used for those exact reasons.

Kenage Achalarus.4276:

ok guys warriors can use pistols if your race is a charr and your name is Rytlock Brimstone. no but seriously he is a warrior that uses a pistol.

He is also a charr, and a bamf. He deserves a rocket launcher shoulder piece imo. I’m saddened I gata deal with eir :/