Guild Wars 2

I feel like there is a very serious lack of reward in WvW for the single person. It is all too broad and so hard to feel like you are making a difference. When you log off on a Wednesday night, you really don’t feel like you accomplished much (in most cases).

So I thought of a temporary title/badge(like the world completion one)/other reward that lasts for the following WvW battle would be a great idea. Now I am sure you are thinking that you still wouldn’t get anything until the end of the battle right? Well thats where, how you get this title (we will call it a title for now even though that could be interchanged with another reward).

To get the title, you must rank in a top “x” percentile (there can be multiple titles for different ranks). The way you will get points for this “rank” is by doing all the things you would normally do in WvW. The following is my rough draft point system. Note: The points would always be visible for you so you could keep track of your point value and how you are doing that week.

Killing a player – 10 points (for every person that hurts that player, the point is reduced by 1 until the minimum point value of 1)

Participating in veteran event (capping the “land” after killing it) 10 points.

Supply camp capture – 25 points

Tower capture – 50 points

Keep capture – 100 points

Castle Capture – 200 points

There could also be permanent titles for achieving a certain point value. Example being, the week only title could be “Mist Champion” and the title for getting (making up a number here at random) 200,000 points in a week could be “Eternal Champion”

Thats my suggestion. I know it could obviously use some real work. But I think something along these lines would keep people trying to dominate every week so that they could keep their awesome title and show off how awesome that are (Currently theres no real reward AT ALL for WvW that is visible – even if you win your only reward is to play a harder server next week and still get no reward)

Note, I know this would need some real time and work on the devs part for something like this, but I really feel like WvW is the only thing in the game currently that has any chance of keeping people interested for the long term, and right now, its falling just a bit short due almost exclusively to the reward system. Also, I believe some form of database to compare your points to other players would be a great idea.

TL;DR – Improve reward for WvW, something you can really see. Add point values to stuff you do on a personal level, and reward you for these points. Give temporary things for some of this so people must continue to play every week to keep their reward.

PS. I would be extremely happy, if I could get even a single “I read this” from anyone at Anet. I have had several people (strangers in map chat) tell me that this is a great idea. Id just love to know it wasn’t lost on the forums and never read~

I really like that idea actually. Those actions would need to be tied in to the event they trigger ideally, the implementation in sPvP seems a little odd to me. But there’s far more aspects of WvW that would need to be added to this system. Buying upgrades, repelling enemies (as a whole, not kills), allies revived, using supply on repairs, using supply on siege weapons, deploying siege weapons, destroying siege weapons. I think there’s other minor areas worth tracking, things that contribute to teamwork that are more abstract outside of these stats: distance travelled (scouting), damage taken (tanking), healing done.

I would enjoy seeing such a scoreboard over the duration of a match. In the more distant future, I’d also like to see multiple pages in that scoreboard to see each individual category.

I try to keep an eye on contributing members that do something that isn’t achieved by “do what everyone else does”. This would give me more info to work with (though not the end point of that goal). I would love scores.

That said, I’m not sure I agree with your opening premise. I feel my contributions are meaningful, but that’s because I’m not just zerging around. I’m always communicating, gathering info and assessing enemy movement, enabling our teams to move more strategically. When we coordinate a solid defense and shut down enemy offense, the balance of morale shifts, and with that the percentage of accomplishments team-wide on both sides shifts. That tends to be a greater longevity in the land you have obtained. Though effort will always decline as time goes on, in the current setup.

I’m not sure I understand the title concept, as I’m viewing the scoring system as being equal to the match’s duration. There are already permanent WvW titles to earn, which can be worn to show off what you specialize in (all take a long time though). And Badges of Honor are supposed to be a tangible reward, outwardly shown if you put that toward your gear.

I do definitely support more “visibility” of players’ accomplishments, and I think a scoring system can work in some way or another. So long as it doesn’t create undesirable incentive. (For example, in sPvP players always stay on the capture point either because they’re used to things capping faster, or because points are important in sPvP and they must be on the point to get the actual credit)

Honestly , it would be really ,really hard for the devs to find a way to give fair recognition to players in WvW. Player can be helping in many ways , and some of them is simple scouting and passing information , those are helping a lot.

Your point system will simple create even bigger zergs of AoEing people. I for one got an ele , and i know she would get far more points then my guardian for example.

No more complex I imagine than the medal system for rewards in events. Some people do buffs on the people killing, some people do the killing. There would be alot of moving parts for sure, but thats why Anet has teams of programmers!

But yea, theres obvious work that needs to go into my idea, but I think it has a solid foundation that developers could build on and really make something awesome. I just really want to see reward when I WvW, more than randomly getting badges that give me different looking gear.

Side note – When you mentioned there being things like scouting and reporting that help in WvW but wouldn’t get rewarded, well, some jobs dont have songs sang about them, and thats just one of the things youll have to deal with if you want to be “that” guy who puts the win ahead of himself. What isn’t good is when everyone becomes that guy and no one sees any reward for all the work they put in.

I like it. Would be nice to see a more local reward