Wvw Daily's and title achievements
There are already tons of titles for WvW stuff.
I see a huge problem with this, not everyone PVP’s and I guarantee there will be complaints, like there already is with the WvW in the monthly.
[OHai] – Northern Shiverpeaks
There are already tons of titles for WvW stuff.
I see a huge problem with this, not everyone PVP’s and I guarantee there will be complaints, like there already is with the WvW in the monthly.
Well not everyone pve’s either. You have to understand that their is none the less a pretty big population who bought this game for sPVP and Wvw. And adding this will give players yet another reason to Wvw. With pretty much every MMO I play.. I ultimately whined up leaning towards the pvp endgame. As the pve easily becomes boring and I’m more so a competitive player. And I know many others who will agree with me on that. Of course not everyone is like that but none the less don’t underestimate the numbers of the pvper’s it is them who are capable of keeping a mmo going. Doing this will also give some pve players a kick to help support there server in Wvw. The Wvw servers will be more full and therefor more balanced. This way 30 players aren’t versing 150 from another server.
Why not have separate daily for WvW and PvE?
I support the monthly being PvE and WvW but its plausible to throw the hardcore WvW peeps a bone and to make it slightly different they get Badges of Honor instead of Karma.
Oh trust me, I do understand as I PVP quite a lot now that Im done what I want to do in PVE. Its the rest of the people that wouldnt understand and Im sure they would disagree about PVP’ers keeping an MMO going.
[OHai] – Northern Shiverpeaks
Honestly , i think one every MMO to date , most players are “mostly” PvE (at least that is the way on the big titles).
So if i believe PvP keeps any MMO going? No , i dont.
Still , there are tons of PvP players , so yeah , i agree we should divide WvW and PvE (Why not add a SPvP also?) , let there be dailies/monthlies for both.
People can then pick , they do either or both , all will depend on how they want to play.
Honestly , i think one every MMO to date , most players are “mostly” PvE (at least that is the way on the big titles).
So if i believe PvP keeps any MMO going? No , i dont.
Still , there are tons of PvP players , so yeah , i agree we should divide WvW and PvE (Why not add a SPvP also?) , let there be dailies/monthlies for both.
People can then pick , they do either or both , all will depend on how they want to play.
I’m going to start with Wow. Because Wow is one of the most successful MMO’s. They made the most amount of money and lasted the longest that I can imagine an MMO has. Wow started specifically as a pve with pvp aspect and as time went on they have constantly worked on the pvp balance and content. The reason for this is because they knew that players were looking to compete with each other. It’s simply who has more gear and more skill as a player. Its natural for someone to want to show off and compete. Also when it comes to pvp even if you have the same objective in every match the fact that your playing verse another person instead of an NPC, makes every match different and unique.
The second game I’m going to have to mention is Star Wars the Old Republic. The main quest story of this game was done so well that I can consider it almost a single player game. But once you’ve finished the main story just like any single player game that you’ve finished you feel like your done with it. When it came to the pvp they had only two maps both being different objectives to win. And world pvp almost seemed none existent. The balance of classes was way off and the reward system for pvping was lacking. This game was on the decline with multiple posts of people wondering when they were going to add content and balance pvp. Mainly everyone was comparing to Wows arena/pvp system. The game is currently going Free to play.
Lastly I would like to just mention EVE if you ever heard of it. If not look it up. The game is based off the players. Without the factor of players competing with each other in this game. It would never have gone on as long or never have gotten as big as it did.
Just so you know real world money was being used to buy establishments in this game.
@Saint
Really , wanna make a bet? Would WoW lose more player if they destroyed PvE or PvP?
Im quite sure we both know the answer.
Most players play “mostly” PvE , there is not even a dispute on that, while true , tons of them also spend sometime on PvP and less but still a lot , only PvP.
SW:TOR failed for many , many reasons , PvP alone was not the downfall of that game , i also used to go to the forums a lot , sure , there were multiple posts of people asking for the arenas , also tons of people posting on each one of those saying they didnt want it implemented.
So … proves me little when sure , many were wishing for it , still also many were saying they did not want it implemented.
I know EVE online by name , but honestly never played it , so i will not speak about it, still , people use real world money on most MMOs … including GW2 , what makes they spending on EVE so amazing? (There is no irony from me , like i said i never played it and wonder why)
I admit i put my words wrong , there are tons of player who only play PvP and even more that play both with PvP mostly , still im betting the number of PvE + mostly PvE goes far beyond those.
So , "So if i believe PvP keeps any MMO going? " , It might actually do it, i admit it , BUT , i still believe that most players on MMOs belong to the PvE kind and thus that is the reason most MMOs focus more on the PvE side of things.
They surely should treat both kinds equally nonetheless. So would be nice if they split the dailies and monthlies. More rewards for the hardcore that do both , and other players can pick which one they like the most.
WvW does not need dailies. Limited numbers of people can enter WvW in a day. Queues would be a nightmare. Complaints would be everywhere. It’s already impossible for some people, who play on some servers, at some times, to never be able to even enter WvW. The monthly 50 kills is pretty hard on 5-8 hour queue servers.
PvP does not need dailies. You can get every reward except payed tournament tokens, just from winning in hot joins. It’s really that easy.
PvE does need dailies. 90% of a level a day, for the casuals. Encouragement to gather and do events that will otherwise never be done. An actual reward for killing mobs, and different kind of mobs.
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