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Posted by: DeWolfe.2174

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<rant>Seriously, I was just short the daily by one salvage item. Which I was salvaging 10 items when it stopped counting at nine. Not that I didn’t do the tenth. Surprisingly, this annoyance has happened before. Like you couldn’t put a 5 minute grace period on it? Considering how bleeping important you made laurels to be.

This is just another in a long list of things that brings such frustration into a game. Games shouldn’t cause negative emotions like this. Never have I had a game that caused such negativity than this one.
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Posted by: Narly.9023

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I hear yeh. I don’t like to complain about this game because I do enjoy it for the most part. You’re right though. I hate the feeling of having to do dailies due to their importance. It’s another one added to the list of things you feel like you have to do on here. Sometimes this game can be more of a chore instead haha.

Anyway, I think a grace period is a good idea.

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Posted by: Goloith.6349

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Personally I think dailies shouldnt reset if they are missed. Sure your going to miss the next days laurel, but at least you’ll get one. They should do the same with monthlies as well.

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Posted by: Adine.2184

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why was it put off til last min? something like that or gatherer should of been the first completed

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Posted by: Dondarrion.2748

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Should there be a grace period on the grace period too then? I was just one salvage short at the end of my 5 minute grace period, why not make me another grace period?!?

Adine has it right, why put it off to last minute, you know the deadline, finish it sooner or you risk being late and miss out!

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Posted by: callidus.7085

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why was it put off til last min? something like that or gatherer should of been the first completed

Put off to last min? Like it’s a job? It’s a game ;-) and real life obligations come first, so things like this can happen (although they could put systems in place to prevent it and not frustrate people).

What I’d love to see is (like someone before has suggested), remove dailies and add weeklies that have 7 time the reward for 7 times the effort so that people can (if they wanted to) put in a lot of time in one day and not be forced to play every day.. just catering to that playstyle (the weekend warriors). I’d also like to see that the progress on dailies/weeklies/monthlies not reset… You put in all that effort and if all of a sudden your power goes out, you need to go eat dinner or any number of other potential real life problems occur it’d be nice that your effort not be wasted.

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

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why was it put off til last min? something like that or gatherer should of been the first completed

Put off to last min? Like it’s a job? It’s a game ;-) and real life obligations come first, so things like this can happen (although they could put systems in place to prevent it and not frustrate people).

What I’d love to see is (like someone before has suggested), remove dailies and add weeklies that have 7 time the reward for 7 times the effort so that people can (if they wanted to) put in a lot of time in one day and not be forced to play every day.. just catering to that playstyle (the weekend warriors). I’d also like to see that the progress on dailies/weeklies/monthlies not reset… You put in all that effort and if all of a sudden your power goes out, you need to go eat dinner or any number of other potential real life problems occur it’d be nice that your effort not be wasted.

these threads always make me laugh and make absolutely no sense and have no real strong argument behind them. So the person I qouted solution is make them weekly. LOL then people will be complaining that they missed out on one salvage on their weekly. It never stops !

So let me put it this way and no excuse you have can over write this solution
IF your doing your daily like the OP stated and you miss it, your new dailies start. Instead of raging and throwing a tantrum DO your new dailies finish them in 20 minutes, you wont have to worry about missing them. If your real life only Warrant you to play 30 minutes to 60 minutes a day then the rewards from dailies don’t have the large impact for you anyhow since you don’t play nearly enough.

Bottom line is if you wait 10 minutes before reset to start your dailies then your probably not going to finish, how is your laziness Arena Nets fault? Like I previously stated if your around for the reset your around for the dailies to be done before you log off. You have 24 hours to complete them if in 24 hours you can’t take 20 minutes then the Ascended gear and other rewards really have no benefit for you anyhow.

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Posted by: callidus.7085

callidus.7085

why was it put off til last min? something like that or gatherer should of been the first completed

Put off to last min? Like it’s a job? It’s a game ;-) and real life obligations come first, so things like this can happen (although they could put systems in place to prevent it and not frustrate people).

What I’d love to see is (like someone before has suggested), remove dailies and add weeklies that have 7 time the reward for 7 times the effort so that people can (if they wanted to) put in a lot of time in one day and not be forced to play every day.. just catering to that playstyle (the weekend warriors). I’d also like to see that the progress on dailies/weeklies/monthlies not reset… You put in all that effort and if all of a sudden your power goes out, you need to go eat dinner or any number of other potential real life problems occur it’d be nice that your effort not be wasted.

these threads always make me laugh and make absolutely no sense and have no real strong argument behind them. So the person I qouted solution is make them weekly. LOL then people will be complaining that they missed out on one salvage on their weekly. It never stops !

So let me put it this way and no excuse you have can over write this solution
IF your doing your daily like the OP stated and you miss it, your new dailies start. Instead of raging and throwing a tantrum DO your new dailies finish them in 20 minutes, you wont have to worry about missing them. If your real life only Warrant you to play 30 minutes to 60 minutes a day then the rewards from dailies don’t have the large impact for you anyhow since you don’t play nearly enough.

Bottom line is if you wait 10 minutes before reset to start your dailies then your probably not going to finish, how is your laziness Arena Nets fault? Like I previously stated if your around for the reset your around for the dailies to be done before you log off. You have 24 hours to complete them if in 24 hours you can’t take 20 minutes then the Ascended gear and other rewards really have no benefit for you anyhow.

Alrighty, first off, not MY solution, just a solution I’ve seen in the suggestion forums that I happen to like. So far, since dailies have been introduced, I’ve only missed 3 dailies… really not a big deal for me, but one of the ones I missed because I couldn’t log in before reset to finish it off (I had nearly completed it the night before) and I had 4/5 done, because of this, I can sympathize with the OP… I’m not saying it’s “Arena Nets” fault or any such thing.. this is just a SUGGESTION.. lol in the SUGGESTION forums.. So.. try to read these with an open mind would you? Also, yes, it would be nice if I could not worry about the weekdays as much and just get them done on the weekends.. cause I work during the week, I think that’s a reasonable request (request, not demand.. just a request.. if it doesn’t happen, as I’m sure it won’t, no big deal, at least I asked). Also, yes people will complain, it happens… but still, in this case, if they let your progress roll over to the next day instead of being wiped clean, negating all your work, that’d be cool in my book.. don’t see why that’s funny.

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

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My apologies, I for assuming. Now I find it funny cause like you said it happened to you 3 times, I have missed it a few times also. Although it is what it is, dailies take no longer than 20 minutes faster now you can choice, you shouldn’t need extra time. I work long long hours as a head chef, I understand working a lot but if I want the Laurel I find time, if I don’t get it then so be it, if i miss it by a minute or so I move on and complete the next day before I log off.

We just don’t need to extend the already 24 hour period, would weekly’s be cool hell yeah but between weekly and daily and monthly I think that would be to many laurels

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Posted by: callidus.7085

callidus.7085

My apologies, I for assuming. Now I find it funny cause like you said it happened to you 3 times, I have missed it a few times also. Although it is what it is, dailies take no longer than 20 minutes faster now you can choice, you shouldn’t need extra time. I work long long hours as a head chef, I understand working a lot but if I want the Laurel I find time, if I don’t get it then so be it, if i miss it by a minute or so I move on and complete the next day before I log off.

We just don’t need to extend the already 24 hour period, would weekly’s be cool hell yeah but between weekly and daily and monthly I think that would be to many laurels

Well… I’m not sure what the thread suggestion was exactly anymore, but I understood that particular users suggestion as weeklies would replace dailies… We’d only have weeklies and monthlies.

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

Kaimick.5109

My apologies, I for assuming. Now I find it funny cause like you said it happened to you 3 times, I have missed it a few times also. Although it is what it is, dailies take no longer than 20 minutes faster now you can choice, you shouldn’t need extra time. I work long long hours as a head chef, I understand working a lot but if I want the Laurel I find time, if I don’t get it then so be it, if i miss it by a minute or so I move on and complete the next day before I log off.

We just don’t need to extend the already 24 hour period, would weekly’s be cool hell yeah but between weekly and daily and monthly I think that would be to many laurels

Well… I’m not sure what the thread suggestion was exactly anymore, but I understood that particular users suggestion as weeklies would replace dailies… We’d only have weeklies and monthlies.

That wouldn’t be bad, although I believe the original suggestion was allow our dailies a 5 minute grace period.

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Posted by: Graybes.8251

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My apologies, I for assuming. Now I find it funny cause like you said it happened to you 3 times, I have missed it a few times also. Although it is what it is, dailies take no longer than 20 minutes faster now you can choice, you shouldn’t need extra time. I work long long hours as a head chef, I understand working a lot but if I want the Laurel I find time, if I don’t get it then so be it, if i miss it by a minute or so I move on and complete the next day before I log off.

We just don’t need to extend the already 24 hour period, would weekly’s be cool hell yeah but between weekly and daily and monthly I think that would be to many laurels

Well… I’m not sure what the thread suggestion was exactly anymore, but I understood that particular users suggestion as weeklies would replace dailies… We’d only have weeklies and monthlies.

So first people complain about time gating and then directly ask for more time gating? Taking away dailies and only having monthlies and weeklies is pretty much specifically saying “hey we want more time gating!” Because only giving out laurels every week and every month is making the time gating situation worse. You have 29 laurels? Oh and that thing you want to purchase costs 30 laurels? Nope you need to wait a whole week to buy it

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Posted by: callidus.7085

callidus.7085

My apologies, I for assuming. Now I find it funny cause like you said it happened to you 3 times, I have missed it a few times also. Although it is what it is, dailies take no longer than 20 minutes faster now you can choice, you shouldn’t need extra time. I work long long hours as a head chef, I understand working a lot but if I want the Laurel I find time, if I don’t get it then so be it, if i miss it by a minute or so I move on and complete the next day before I log off.

We just don’t need to extend the already 24 hour period, would weekly’s be cool hell yeah but between weekly and daily and monthly I think that would be to many laurels

Well… I’m not sure what the thread suggestion was exactly anymore, but I understood that particular users suggestion as weeklies would replace dailies… We’d only have weeklies and monthlies.

So first people complain about time gating and then directly ask for more time gating? Taking away dailies and only having monthlies and weeklies is pretty much specifically saying “hey we want more time gating!” Because only giving out laurels every week and every month is making the time gating situation worse. You have 29 laurels? Oh and that thing you want to purchase costs 30 laurels? Nope you need to wait a whole week to buy it

Well, not saying that time gating is a good thing… but it’s already here and if we have dailies at all, weeklies in my opinion are better as it doesn’t force you to be on everyday. Anyways, lots of discussion around this… These ideas have been floated around before.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/New-daily-rollovers-Urgent-Fix-Needed
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Please-Remove-Daily
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Weekly
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Partial-completed-dailies
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Why-not-a-weekly-instead-of-daily
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Change-Dailies-to-Weeklies

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Posted by: Jack of Tears.9458

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Come on … they changed the dang things so you could pick your own dailies, now they gotta get rid of the time limit, too?

I dunno, when I get on the game I pick a handful what look like I could finish them while I play and then ignore it … if it happens while I’m off having fun, great, if not – so what? This isn’t a job, you shouldn’t feel like ya got to clock in and “do those dailies” everyday. If the frustration of trying to catch ‘em all is kitten ya off, then maybe it’s time to step back and remind yourself that you’re doing this for fun.


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Posted by: Dasorine.1964

Dasorine.1964

Problem is no matter what change you make, if you cannot complete it in the 24 hours your given you will still miss out.

If your constantly missing it by a slim margin and you cannot work out how to get it done over the 24 hours your most likely only getting a very short time to play and thats over halfway over the reset time…

So unless you only get 1 hour a day to play and the reset is in the middle and you absolutely cannot get another minute or so at the start or end to ensure you get the daily done before you log then your never going to get it.

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Posted by: Catisa.6507

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dailies take no more then 60 min done very slowly (they can easily be done in 15-20 min), that gives you a built in grace period of 23 hours already.

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Posted by: DeWolfe.2174

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Wow, I was just ranting. Missing it by a click can do that to you. :-)

Thank you all for the post on my thread. A daily, weekly, and monthly sounds awesome actually. I’m not a dungeon person so a laurel are quite important.

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Posted by: Navzar.2938

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I like the idea of progress just carrying over to the next day if you miss the deadline. Sure, you still miss out on a day’s rewards, but at least what you did still counts towards something.

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Posted by: Reverielle.3972

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dailies take no more then 60 min done very slowly (they can easily be done in 15-20 min), that gives you a built in grace period of 23 hours already.

Pretty much this I agree with.

Additionally there’s absolutely no reason whey anyone ‘needs’ to complete the dailies. Laurels are nice, sure, but they’re not needed to gain items that are absolutely needed to complete any content in the game, they’re just another avenue.

Just because something’s ‘the best’ doesn’t mean it’s suddenly ‘needed’.

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Posted by: Dasorine.1964

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actually tarn you need laurels to get the ascended amulet, its the only way to get it and without it you can’t get enough AR to do higher level fractals

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

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Outside of the stats on them which mean pretty much nothing it is the infusion slot that allows you to put agony resist and they are the only to my knowledge that can become infused for more agony resist. Which in turn is only needed for higher level fractals.

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Posted by: Catisa.6507

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honestly if you have enough time to grind up to high enough lvl fractal that you need the extra +5 ar the necklace can give you (cannot currently be infused so +5 is max), you’ve plenty of time to do your daily also.

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Posted by: Orc Slayer.2780

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why was it put off til last min? something like that or gatherer should of been the first completed

Here is an original thought, there is a world outside of gw2. Infact it’s so advanced that there are these things called computers that run software that people use for fun, called games.

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Posted by: Dasorine.1964

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no you actually need the amulet if you wish to do high level fractals, that 5 AR that you can get from it is needed for them.

Anet intentionally made it so you need to get more ascended gear the higher you go, if you miss one at some point you will not physically be able to proceed

And they did state that they did not beleive you needed it to complete certain content not the entire game. I just corrected stating that without it you will reach a limit which you cannot pass in the Fractals of the Mist dungeon which happens to be content… in the game…

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Posted by: Dasorine.1964

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I never said they did BUT if you actually read what I was responded to the statement wasn’t “But you don’t need the laurel gear for anything I particularly care about” the statement was

“Additionally there’s absolutely no reason whey anyone ‘needs’ to complete the dailies. Laurels are nice, sure, but they’re not needed to gain items that are absolutely needed to complete any content in the game, they’re just another avenue.”

which is untrue because anyone who wishes to do higher level content does in fact need the laurel amulet to achieve enough agony resistance.

So before you go on about MY reading comprehension why don’t you take your head from your rectum and actually read yourself.

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Posted by: Ravion Hawk.4736

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If I can work 15 hour days 7 days a week and STILL get my dailies done, there is no excuse to have ANY kind of grace period on doing dailies. You have 24 hours to do them in.

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Posted by: Orc Slayer.2780

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If I can work 15 hour days 7 days a week and STILL get my dailies done, there is no excuse to have ANY kind of grace period on doing dailies. You have 24 hours to do them in.

because the world revolves around you. A lot of people work 15 hour days, have kids, A LIFE, etc but as long as YOU can complete YOURS because you make sure you come home and play Gw2 immediately after working, that ANYONE ELSE dare not get BENEFITS / PLEASURE from the game. Sir, yes, sir!

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Posted by: Dasorine.1964

Dasorine.1964

it IS needed at later levels though, you will not beat jade maw without at least 1 person in your team having sufficient AR for the level.

Teens are nothing compared to later levels where with no AR the agony will one shot you.

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Posted by: Dasorine.1964

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well that depends what other AR gear you have, but 40-49 would be the point where the full 45 starts becoming important.

If the amulet would be ALL you have try 20-29 with no AR you most likely will not survive a jade maw encounter without being revived by those with AR.

But I will say this isn’t just me trying to whine about how laurels are needed, its just a fact that you need certain amounts of AR to pass certain levels and that ANET designed it to be that way.

Though I guess technically you don’t need laurels to get an ascended amulet but you do have to grind a triforge amulet and upgrade it, it being the singular other option to laurel amulets.

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Posted by: Dasorine.1964

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Seriously man, the argument isn’t about having NO AR at level x( u say 40-49 for max).. It’s about the necessity of the AR provided by the amulet bought by laurels at said level. Last postand deleting all in about twenty minutes as we are WAY off topic.

well let me give you the calculations then, jade maw agony is undodgable and hits 9 times, at level 40-49 with the full 45 AR from a full set including the amulet you will take 18% of your health per hit for a total of 162% of your health that would be enough to down you and a good chance to defeat you without heals (which are massively reduced during agony), without the amulet at 40 AR you take 24% per tick for a total 216% of your health it may just be survivable if you happen to have a really big heal or some other thing to try and push it back a bit but in most cases you are going to die completely.

this, compared to the 12% damage you take per tick with no AR at 10-19 is a big difference.

and of course then when your at 50-59 even with the full 45 AR possible at the moment I don’t believe its survivable anymore.

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Posted by: Catisa.6507

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as i stated before, if you have the time to grind up to 40+ fractal lvl, you have the time to do dailies to get laurels, the argument you two are having is moot.

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Posted by: Orc Slayer.2780

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alright, cool, didn’t know that. Also, there is a player at level 82 fractals. Remember, u can buy ascended earrings by laurels OR guild missions, rings by laurels OR fractals. Amulet by laurels OR all three pendants. Back packs by well two different ways but both require the toilet and fractals………EDIT: which means, you do not need laurels to get the amulet for AR

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Posted by: Orc Slayer.2780

Orc Slayer.2780

as i stated before, if you have the time to grind up to 40+ fractal lvl, you have the time to do dailies to get laurels, the argument you two are having is moot.

Not really. You can do fractals on the weekends ( they came about about three months ago) but miss every daily during the week ( aka a LONG TIME to get the laurels. )

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

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alright, cool, didn’t know that. Also, there is a player at level 82 fractals. Remember, u can buy ascended earrings by laurels OR guild missions, rings by laurels OR fractals. Amulet by laurels OR all three pendants. Back packs by well two different ways but both require the toilet and fractals………EDIT: which means, you do not need laurels to get the amulet for AR

There is no player at level 82 fractals, since fractals stops at 80, Please check your facts I will post my facts below
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Fractals_of_the_Mists

If someone has this large life out side the game, that is the choice they are making to not play ( all be it a smart choice ), they made that choice not arena Net, ergo 24 hours is enough time.

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Posted by: Ravion Hawk.4736

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If I can work 15 hour days 7 days a week and STILL get my dailies done, there is no excuse to have ANY kind of grace period on doing dailies. You have 24 hours to do them in.

because the world revolves around you. A lot of people work 15 hour days, have kids, A LIFE, etc but as long as YOU can complete YOURS because you make sure you come home and play Gw2 immediately after working, that ANYONE ELSE dare not get BENEFITS / PLEASURE from the game. Sir, yes, sir!

I get home before the kids wake up and get them done in an hour. I never said the world revolves around me. The normal average work week is 8 hours a day 5 days a week. As an armed security guard I’m working 15 hour days (+7 hours), 7 days a week (+ 2 days x 15 hours).

That means I work 105 hours a week and can still get my dailies done plus spend time with the family, but someone that works 40 hours a week feels they need a grace period to get their dailies done. Hogwash!

As to degrading into a fractals complaint thread, Fractals is OPTIONAL for the dailies. Get five of the dailies done on the list THEN run fractals AFTER the dailies are done.

Time management people! You have 24 hours to do them in, quit making excuses. Takes an hour to do them.

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Posted by: DeWolfe.2174

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Happened again… waiting for Maw for the group portion. Ran to the forge after Wolfmaster popped. Needed 2 more forgings. There’s just something about dailies and me

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Posted by: Dasorine.1964

Dasorine.1964

I hope your doing “tommorows” one now :P

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Posted by: DeWolfe.2174

DeWolfe.2174

I did… I did…. :-)

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Posted by: roachsrealm.9284

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I’d be all for this if it were a cash shop item.

NEW: Asura Transmogrifying Timebender Daily Augmentation Extender. One time use for an extra 30 minutes of time to accomplish daily tasks.

Cost: 150 gems
0.0000000025% chance drop from BLK chests.

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Posted by: Ilithis Mithilander.3265

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I vote no, unless we add more hours to the DAY, its a daily and should be on a 24 hour cycle. I too forget to be part of my daily before it resets, granted I’ve never been that close as one salvage with to which I say, click faster. I get angry at myself, and move on to do whatever other things I wanted to do whether it was the next set of dailies or going to play another game.

I do like the idea of rollover dailies/monthlies.

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

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I think De Wolfe has realized to just do his dailies after they reset rather than trying to do them at the last minute bravo to you

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Posted by: Rakuren Kenshou.7689

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I don’t support a grace period, as then you wouldn’t have 24 hours to do the next daily (and so on) or the times would change each day.

I do like the idea of weekly rewards too though. Whether it be in addition or instead of dailies.

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