Guild Wars 2

ok been playing since launch and tried to deal with the drop rates and honestly its absurd. 1 hour of farming on a berserker warrior i will make an avarage of 4-5 specific t6 mats. when i equip full mf im at 180% i never seen any increase with the drop rates not even geting more drops, only differece is 1-2 rares on average. when there is people able to make 75s-1g in 5-10 mins they can buy stock up fast in no time people will see how its a bad idea to not include a farming spot that meets or surpass this without nerfing it 2 months later dust 40s ea and were told to upgrade t5 mats in a hr you can almost get 50 t5 about 40 max well it requires dust and price continues to rise wouldnt surprise me if gets 50s+. so t5 to t6 not viable and should either be changed to t5 to 25-30 used or increase t6 to 30-40 recived. also note thereare people losing money right now tryig to keep it at or below 40s when they stop expect it to rise

What was your suggestion again? I think you’re in the wrong board my friend…ranting is usually done in general discussion.

zorby can you not read the title says t6 materals upgrading (forge recipe) the rest is stating why the recipe needs to be looked at. ill try to simplify this for young mind to comprehend
t6 drop rates are horrid and cof p1 farming is killing the economy when someone is farming t6 mats for 1 hr and that supply can almost be bought out by one person in 6-10 mins and still have money to buy some off the next person then there is something wrong. there is a percectly good answer to fix this. by using the mystic forge recipe to upgrade t5 to t6 mats you can get a good handfull of t6 mats but right now the t5 to t6 recipe needs to be looked at as of right now only 40 t5 mats will drop in a hr you need 50 so it takes over 1 hr to meet 1 buyer running cof p1 meaning 6 mins can easily buy 1 hr worth of mats.
example: 5 people runs cof there is now an extra (using low side)75s roughly ea (3g75s total) in existance now no repair costs all can be used for mats if all players bought mats then the player farming 1 hr makes 5 t6 blood then 28s ea roughly then they could buy 2 bloods in 1 run but wait they still have drops to sell and it is known the average player will make his total 1g+ off this now making it where they can afford 4 and almost buying out a full 1 hr worth of farming.
now with t6 dust rising the amount of t6 to be placed in the market will decrease

eric.8203:

when i equip full mf im at 180% i never seen any increase with the drop rates not even geting more drops

To be honest,
If you don’t udnerstand how the game mechanics work, then I totally udnerstand why you don’t get as much t6 matierials.

But to explain why magic finds doesn’t work. To start a quote from the wiki:
’ Magic Find is an attribute that increases a player’s chance to receive higher-quality loot from dead foes’

Quality is here a game mechanic, that is bout the colour of the item. I’ll ignore purple and pink colours cause these don’t drop from foes. The list in increasing rarity is:

brey (junk)
white (basic)
blue (fine)
green (masterwork)
yellow (rare)
orange (exotic)

Magic find doesn’t alter the amount of drops. But it gives you an higher change of getting exotic, rare and masterwork drops. This also means you got a lower change of getting junk, basic and fine drops when going for magic find.
Tier 6 materials are dropping from foes as blue items (fine) or from lootbags (white). This means that Magic find (slightly) decreases the amount you will get instead of increasing. Besides that, with magic find you kill slower.

The second thing I want to point out is that at the moment the problem is that arenanet kinda killed the farm-chain in crused shore. This is considered a bad idea and that is what should change!!!

All in all a bad solution for a problem that exists only cause of a very wrong decission by arenanet. The pertinent waypoint farm was not harming anyone and people where playing the game as intended. The lyssa temple farm was an issue, but not this one!!

i know about the magic find giving chances at rare. it also increases the chance of double drops my research as full berserker warrior and full mf warrior i yeilded more double drops from 1 foe with magic find than berserker countless times. the problem was there never was 1 mat. i know about the cursed shore nerf and the lyssa farm and actually im not talking about niether of those old farms since there nerfed. im talking about actually killing stuff close to jormag like the white moas, worms, corrupted monsters, grawl or bears/trolls i have spent countless hours on each killing these for mats and research to try and help with the supply problem we will have soon and arena net has showed us that they do not want us to farm events or block event progress if we wanted another lyssa farm we could have it just wont be dust. jormag spawns countless waves in phase 1 also a few other events spawn endless waves like the most funniest thing is a group can farm the dredge fractial to get a lot of bags since they respawn the problems is hoping to get it first to just stay and farm

Magic find does not give an higher change of double drops. This has been claimed, researched and been declared a myth. MF has no effect on fine material drops, whatsoever. if there is an effect notable it is a negative effect.

If you want to claim different then please do what the people who researched it did. Kill 10,000 foes with and without magic find and keep track of all the drops.

im not about to get in an argument about magic find this is not about magic find and about lowering the recipe for t5 to t6 to help with supply we all know everyone farming cof is not buying t6 mats but it takes a handfull to do it to ruin the economy if you dont want to believe fine but when t6 mats reach 1g ea dont blame arena net blame your self for not seeing it they want to continuesly hide things under the rug ban due to there coding issues and say its our job to report it well i made a good point if people wanna believe its ok then trust me its the community faults and its getting to a point where the community are elitsts and think they know everything and btw the tests i have done is well over 10,000 kills

Ah, yes. now I see it. Hidden behind all that word pooping is a request to look over the fine materials promotion recipe…It took you that much text to say so little?
And your idea of simplification is to write a slightly longer but equally poorly presented text?
Also:
1. Supply of t6 mats dimishes increasing it’s price
2. At a break point farming t6/t5 mats actually becomes profitable
3. Increase in supply reduces prices
4. Farming mats becomes unprofitable and people stop
This goes on until an equilibrium is reached. I find it hard to believe this will be at 1g…

mercury ranique.2170:

Magic find does not give an higher change of double drops. This has been claimed, researched and been declared a myth. MF has no effect on fine material drops, whatsoever. if there is an effect notable it is a negative effect.

If you want to claim different then please do what the people who researched it did. Kill 10,000 foes with and without magic find and keep track of all the drops.

Exactly.

Add to that that there is not other means other than the nerfed locations and the double RNG effect for getting T6 mats. We can’t get them from salvages, we can’t get them from material nodes, and we can’t get enough baggies anymore, Karma bags don’t provide them (because they nerfed those too) and the only thing that does is Laurels where we can get only 1 bag per laurel which is in no way cost effective. it gets old after a while

Zorby.8236:

Ah, yes. now I see it. Hidden behind all that word pooping is a request to look over the fine materials promotion recipe…It took you that much text to say so little?
And your idea of simplification is to write a slightly longer but equally poorly presented text?
Also:
1. Supply of t6 mats dimishes increasing it’s price
2. At a break point farming t6/t5 mats actually becomes profitable
3. Increase in supply reduces prices
4. Farming mats becomes unprofitable and people stop
This goes on until an equilibrium is reached. I find it hard to believe this will be at 1g…

ok heres your problem right now with cs and lyssa farm nerfed the only place is to farm frostgorge or southsun and 1hr = 4-5 t6 mats of a specific mat and demand is higher than that, 1 person is buying 4-5 t6 mats in 6-10 mins. if they lower the recipe to turn t5 to t6 to atleast 40 or 35 t5 mats then it equals out 1 person farming t6 mats for 1 hr and 1 person farming cof p1 for 1 hr