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This is sort of an odd request, but…

I have a Total Makeover kit that I’d like to use on my Sylvari Engineer, Fría Nox, meaning “Cold Night”. Oddly, I have her as a Dawn Cycle. Maybe early dawn? Either way, I wanted her to have a “frosted night” sort of look to her. Maybe I can indicate the dawn some way? I’m willing to pretty much re-make her. I have her skin tone as a really dark green now. Maybe I could go with a dark purple? Or at least dark purple hair?

I’m thinking about going with the fern-style hair. Though I could be persuaded for the pinecone. If any Sylvari gets the flower, it’ll be my Mesmer.

Any ideas on the best way to pull the look off? And, even better, what medium armor would go well with it? Pictures are always welcome!

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The first 3 are how she looks now. The latter two are with that purple unique color in two of the three new ‘dos. I don’t think I could make the flower work and I think I already have a Sylvari that would go with that better… If I make a third Sylvari, she’ll be heavy armor and tree-like. My Mesmer is more foresty/flowery. I’d like this one to be in the middle of those two “extremes”.
I really like her white eyes, particularly with her skin tone, but I’m not even sure I’d dislike them with a light skin tone. hairstyle? Definitely up for grabs. I find her hair color a bit too dark. Particularly when she’s not glowing (and when she’s fully covered in armor! Then I can’t see her white on her skin pattern, so she looks very dark). I want either a night or early dawn feel. That purple color that’s unique to the kit is very nice. The face is up for grabs, also. I’m thinking perhaps less human. Skin pattern and tone not totally sold on. Though I think the white might be nice in reference to the moon. At least for her glow, if not her pattern. Maybe her pattern color could reference more the early dawn phase. Or maybe at least her glow should… but I think one of the two should be referencing the moon. I made “Cold Night” a Dawn Cycle on accident XB So I kinda want to reference both, if possible.

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It is always difficult to suggest a look that would work someone else because what works for me, might not be what you are looking for at all

The good thing about those makeover kits, is that you won’t apply any changes until you actually click accept. If I were you, I would either try out different combinations through that, or as an alternative: Make a new character with the colors you want to try out, log in and see how they look.
I created 5 different versions of my mesmer before I was happy with her. ^^

I also have a guardian, and I went for the cold night look when I created her. I wanted her to somewhat resemble frost on a winters night.

I went with a dark skin tone and white skin pattern and glow.
Maybe you could try something similar, but add colors from dawn to her eye and hair… Err I mean leaf color.
Or maybe the skin color itself could be the dark purple you mentioned. That could work well I think.

I attached a picture so you can get an idea of what I mean. I think those somewhat neutral colors would be easy to combine (or replace) with a color representing dawn.

EDIT: I’m affraid I can’t help you with the medium armor part. So far I only have a lvl 80 guardian, mesmer and necromancer.

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I really like the look you chose I don’t have a spare character slot, unfortunately. Though I may soon get one

Part of my problem is that I thought I liked the look I had, but then it ended up a bit too much with just the “midnight green” color. Not a whole lot of her white pattern shows. And her “frosted” look isn’t indicated anywhere else. Her glow is white, but you know, in daylight, you cannot see it. Which then she ends up looking a bit dull.

Sylvari are by far the hardest for me to decide on looks for because they have so many lovely combinations!

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Yeh that is true
You can still try stuff out in the makeover kit though.
(And please do post the result!)

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Yeh that is true
You can still try stuff out in the makeover kit though.
(And please do post the result!)

My male syvari has a frosted look see here The fern hairstyle looks best in white and midnight ice just here to show you how it looks and glows on my syvari warrior and mesmer

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Posted by: Morrigan.2809

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I have a Sylvari Mesmer that has a kind of pale/reflective look because I wanted her to represent the moon- so she is the opposite of a dark skinned Sylvari

I used a light brownish for skin tone with a very pale pink pattern and a max bright white glow- she has the black purple colour hair you get from the kit.

Maybe it can give you some ideas- oh and post pics

the first pic is in game so you can see her glow and the second is character screen so you can see her skin tone and pattern colour

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I will post pics…. but right now I’m running the game on Linux so textures don’t update well. I’ll post what does update well and my current look soon, though. I’ll get on a windows computer soon and take some pictures of some of my ideas inspired by y’all later this week. Unfortunately, skin color/pattern doesn’t update very well, but hair and faces do. And I believe even glow updates well.

Thank you all so much for the ideas! Keep ‘em coming, too! I’ll try and get a pic at least of my current look in this thread today and update the OP.

@Morrigan: That’s a really neat idea to represent the moon. I wonder if I could go light-skinned instead of dark-skinned also? hmm…. I really do like that dark purple also.

@Marquie Thomas: That is a really cool look with the white fern hair. I also like how he’s staring down the monster in the second pic xD Midnight Ice looks great in that hairstyle, too.

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It would actually be rather nice if you could post a screen of how she looks now
Tell us the things you love about her and don’t wish to change.
I think it would be easier that way ^^
Do you want to keep the white glow as an example?
Do you know yet if you prefer a dark or a lighter skin tone?

Anyways. I have exactly one character slot left, so this was what I had in mind. Slightly lighter skin tone than my guardian (2 different shades though. The one to the right is one tone darker than the one to the left) and midnight purple leafs.

If you decide upon something along the way, I won’t mind creating a sylvari with the skintone, face etc. you have in mind and posts pictures of it here, so you can see what it would look like for real. I won’t use my last character slot for a permanent character anytime soon anyway.

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Thanks a lot. Going to update the OP now with the new information you requested

She is a very pretty Sylvari. Hmm….

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mmmm what about a light skin tone with a green pattern and either a gold/pale yellow or pale pinkish/orange glow? ( kind of inverse to what you have now)

I like the white eyes and I find them to look good with everything- they are also eye-catching even when you are in armour.

Just be very careful and if possible don’t mess with the iris size at all, since it makes your Sylvari go cross eyed in the game-my poor Ranger suffers from this. ( i can see you made the iris small here)

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White eyes, different face, purple’ish skin pattern, white glow even though it’s not visible here. Not sure if the night aspect is present enough, but the dawn is a bit more visible. ^^
Maybe the skin tone should be darker to represent the switch between night and day. This sylvari is more like early dawn. Hmmm….

I think you might be on to something with your idea of combining night and dawn. I rather like the challenge.

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@Morrigan good idea. Hmm, inverse of what I have now sounds intriguing. Thanks for the tip on the eyes, I will certainly watch that.

@Reesha: I like that face… with the thorns on it, I think it fits the theme I’m going for. I think it’s a nice inbetween of the asymmetric bark-type faces to the more human-like faces. Maybe a darker skin tone or a colder purple for the hair… Hmm…What if the pattern color were reversed with the skin color?

I like the challenge myself… I figured I may as well go all out though now that I have a makeover kit (Got one via the 5000 point achievement award) and Sylvari are best to change, look-wise (it at least feels like you have fewer options with the other races) so it feels like I’d get more out of the kit (more things changed, more worth it the kit is… I’d not feel so good if I’d just changed tattoos on a Norn, for example).

Edit: based on some fooling around for light skin tone options (though my textures are funky, the color I can get an idea of)… For the skin tone itself, maybe a color like chill or frosted. Along with that purplish color. For pattern options, greens like Morrigan suggested that I think might work well would be olive and moss. Blues would be Dark Blue and Ultramarine. I came across the colors Indigo, Blackberry, and violet in the purple family, going along the lines of what Reesha suggested (a bit darker purple). Blackberry seems like it might work really well with Chill skin tone and Darkness hair color. For hair colors, of the dark sort, that would be Darkness, Deep Turquoise, Black Sea, and Azure Night that caught my attention. In the middle would be Dusty Grape and on the light side would be Clear Sky, Spring Dew, Turquoise, Mist, and Ceylon that caught my attention. Glow colors that could be options: white, irisette, violet, dusky, mint, sky, streamlet, robin, and pale pink (though I’m leaning against keeping pale pink). I’ll have to mess around further… Input on any of those combinations would be appreciated!
Next time I go in, I’ll mess with darker skin tones and see what catches my eye when I’m working with them.

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I tried white glow, Chill skin tone, and I think Indigo for a pattern option. I will update this post with further images of further experiments. I am thinking about going with a different pattern than that one since you can’t really see the purple.

The second and third images are the second try. What do you think about it? I think it’s the perfect Mesmer look… It is the same pattern as my Mesmer but I do really like it. I used Frosted skin tone, Blackberry Pattern and Dusky glow.

My third try is thus: Light Lichen skin tone, Dark Pine pattern, Dusk glow.

What do you think of the faces? I am not sure which pattern is best. And which skin tone do you think is best, along with which pattern color? I am kinda leaning toward the purple themed skin tone. I like that blackberry color. Maybe I should try blackberry with light lichen? And what about glow? I know these pictures don’t have glow in them, but suggestions on that?

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I am a bit confused now were we not talking about Fria the Engineer?
But in the pics you have a Mesmer?
Are you making another Mesmer?
Are you still going with the cold night with a hint of dawn theme?

-colors that come to mind would be dark indigo, silvery white, deep blue, purple blue, dark purple, some greens, rosy pink and gold- man I wish I had another slot or kit at least

from these pics:
I really like the 3rd face ( it looks so much nicer in game than in character creation) and the light lichen color, what about a blackberry pattern with that? or even the opposite

and maybe a white or very light green/blue /dusky glow?

as for pattern what about this one?

oh and you were asking about medium armor in the OP- here is my Ranger in a mix of t1 and t2 armor- not expensive and I really enjoy how it dyes- it would mix up great with maybe some magitech pieces here and there for an Engi- pity my Engi is a human

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I am still making over an engineer, I am just trying out looks on an extra character slot. I figure I see a bit more of the pattern with the scholar armor set and I enjoy playing them more for the beginning sequence. I just seemed to accidentally make a good Mesmer look xD I think I will at least go medium armor next time though when previewing.

Yeah, I am still going with that theme.

Next I will try the blackberry pattern with Light Lichen and that third face and a dusky glow. Maybe that will turn out well… I will probably also try a more silvery-white color.

What do you think of this look? Imagine her with Darkness fern hair.

Though I like the pattern, I think I might just stick with the darker hands/feet pattern. It would give her a bit more “darkness” perhaps fitting night better. Thankfully I was able to capture glow in this set of pictures too.

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1st set: blackberry pattern.

2nd set: purple pattern

both: Dusky Glow, Light Lichen Skin.

Keep in mind, it should go with a Darkness colored fern hairstyle. Which do you think?
I am kinda leaning toward the second. Do you think it fits the goal? Of blending sort of a frosted night look with dawn?

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1st set: blackberry pattern.
I am kinda leaning toward the second. Do you think it fits the goal? Of blending sort of a frosted night look with dawn?

I defenitly think the second one fits your night and dawn goal!
(And it goes well with her white eyes ^^)

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I second the second one it looks really good- I agree that the hands pattern is much better.
Great job!

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Picture of the final look coming soon! I will update this post with it. Thanks so much for your input!

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Thanks so much for your input!

Any time.
I really enjoyed this challenge ^^

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Here she is!

It wasn’t night in the Maguuma Jungle, so she isn’t glowing, but still. I think she looks good without doing so Also… the glow is Dusky, fyi She doesn’t glow a whole lot on her body, but she does with her hair and face.

Note: She is an engineer mainly due to the alchemy aspect and she will mainly use Sylvari Turrets. She likes the weird of the engineers. She isn’t going to be using the flamethrower or grenades or bombs or generic turrets all that much. But she likes the shield skills and the zapping and poisoning gun. And the glue she uses is natural.

I’m not terribly fond of engineers, but I do like their alchemy aspect. I wish there were more of that with them (but then I haven’t played her too much so I can’t say).

I think she fits the look I was going for and ended up rather exotic, didn’t she? Night favoring plants do tend to look unusual

Edited: With glow! In the place that is always Night Cycle >:D

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oh she turned out great
I love the expression she has in the 3rd pic!
Very exotic and mysterious. well done.

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Thank you! I would not have come up with this idea without you all xD I really do love how she turned out

I didn’t really think about it before… but night plants do tend to be exotic… so exotic and mysterious is definitely a good mix

Edit: I also think she’ll look great in whatever set I put her in. But I am leaning towards T2 coat, boots, and gloves (if I want to wear gloves, those will definitely be it) and probably T1 leggings. The leggings are up for debate. I like the T3 ones better… but only slight. Not enough to spend 25g on. T2 vs T1 leggings? I slightly lean towards T1. Not sure why. But it is only a slight lean and I may as well go with the cheaper pair. So basically, I am going like Morrigan, excepting the boots and gloves. I think the boots and gloves fit her theme more. Though those boots do look good.

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Beautiful result. And the pattern color match her hair really well

Have you tried to preview the Twilight armor btw?
I took a screenshot of a ranger a while back because I though this mix of armor looked amazing.

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Thanks!
Re: Twilight armor No I haven’t but that does look really good. What is it mixed with? Do you know?

Edited just to add: I am surprised at how well her pattern matches her hair. That is what I was going for… but one is an exclusive called “Darkness” and the other is simply “purple.” Also… as far as Twilight Arbor armor goes… I am getting it for my Mesmer first. She may be the only one to get it. But once I do, I just might get at least part of it for my Engineer.

A bit of a random question… If I got Cultural armor or Karma armor from Orr, could I add the Superior Rune of the Nightmare to it/replace the current rune of the set? Because I think I might not want to spend all those blooms for a couple of looks I am not going to use (like the gloves, in all likelihood), but I would want a set with complete Nightmare runes (I might rather put the rune on, for example, T1/2/3 set gloves/boots or another leggings pair).

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I think the gloves and boots are Cof, but I could be wrong. I have absolutely no idea about the helm.

Regarding the rune question: I am not sure I understand what you are asking :s
You can always replace a rune, but I have a feeling that wasn’t the question you wanted an answer to :<

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That is all I needed to know. I was just basically wondering if some armor sets had set stats that you could not replace Hmm… interesting… those gloves and boots don’t look like they would look that good with Nightmare armor.

Thanks!