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Posted by: sheepZA.7054

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Hi All,

As someone who likes the Sylvari I find that as time has passed no new armor sets have really been made in the style of the Sylvari.
All new armor sets that have been released via gem store or otherwise are mainly aimed at human players, all the time.

I would like Arenanet to start maybe adding new Sylvari cultural armor, or when adding new armor to the gem store to keep in mind there are other races besides the humans.

There is alot of opportunities for new armors and I just feel they are being missed. While it is my opinion, I just feel trying to make a Sylvari look human defeats the purpose of creating one.
Bottom line is we need more Sylvari themed armor, and wondering what you all think?

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Posted by: Morrigan.2809

Morrigan.2809

+1 for more Sylvari armors

there are amazing looking NPC’s in the game- just giving us access to what they are wearing would be awesome.

I always dress my Sylvari’s in sylvari armor but the options are extremely limited and a Sylvari in human clothes just look sad to me

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Posted by: sheepZA.7054

sheepZA.7054

Absolutely agree with you Morrigan. Find it funny to see Sylvari in human armor, and I wonder why would you do that? And to make it worse they cover themselves completely, so unless you know the standing animations of a Sylvari, you could easily mistake them as human.

I too ensure all my Sylvari have cultural armor, but would love more choices now for maybe two styles more for each tier per armor type for cultural.

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Posted by: DrDivine.5378

DrDivine.5378

Absolutely agree with you Morrigan. Find it funny to see Sylvari in human armor, and I wonder why would you do that? And to make it worse they cover themselves completely, so unless you know the standing animations of a Sylvari, you could easily mistake them as human.

I too ensure all my Sylvari have cultural armor, but would love more choices now for maybe two styles more for each tier per armor type for cultural.

The only thing creepier, seeing a charr in sylvari armor, probably the worst thing I’ve ever seen lol

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Posted by: ewhalen.8604

ewhalen.8604

I agree! More sylvari armor would be much appreciated. On the initial non-beta release, I was very disappointed at the number of sylvari armors. I had had the impression that there would be more. I’ve put together a good look, but I’d like more options so I can be a pretty sylvari medium class without being a Caithe-look-alike and/or having spikes. I was also very disappointed that my sylvari couldn’t be dressed like a sylvari until level 35. It took some getting used to to see her in human clothes. I’d like not only new sylvari armors, but ones that could be worn at low levels or at the start of the game (even if they don’t look incredibly awesome), so that each player can decide if his or her sylvari likes human clothes or not.

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Posted by: Ezekiel.1985

Ezekiel.1985

I have to disagree with them always being aimed at human players. The “steampunk” ones, while I think they look better on humans, are technically aimed at charr, as that’s their thing within the GW universe.

There have also been norn sets and asura-ish sets.

Anyway, with that said, yeah, could use some more sylvari-themed sets.

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Posted by: Espher.6824

Espher.6824

I can agree with this. It was slightly saddening to start the game and be so excited to make my first Sylvari character, only to find out I’d be trapped wearing Human clothing until level 35. I think the lower level armors should be altered slightly for the Sylvari so that it looks more natural for them, or maybe all lower armors should be made to alter themselves based on the race wearing them? Something at least to give the Sylvari more variety.

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Posted by: Ezekiel.1985

Ezekiel.1985

That’s not super-viable because then..what about the ones that want to wear normal clothes? :p They just need some more flowery clothes.

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Posted by: Ashes.9586

Ashes.9586

They could just release racial armor that changes depending on what race is wearing it, kinda like how the chef skin changes if a charr is wearing it.

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Posted by: Electro.4173

Electro.4173

Nothing wrong with a Sylvari wearing “human” clothes. There are plenty of Sylvari that do in the game world, even in the personal story. Just because Sylvari CAN grow their own clothes doesn’t mean they want / have to.

Not that I dislike cultural armor either. Each of my Sylvari has 1 set of cultural gear and one set of normal gear.

I wouldn’t get your hopes up for more cultural gear in the near future, though. The devs have already said that they don’t really have any plans for more cultural stuff right now as they want to create armors that appeal to everyone, not just a single group of players. They did say its not off the table entirely, but its not a priority at the moment.

Given the comment about appealing to everyone, if they were going to create another cultural set, you can bet they’d want to do it for all races, so that’d be a pretty big undertaking (3 armor sets, one for each weight class, x5 races, and doubled for human / sylvari / norn due to male / female differences, so you’re talking 40 sets of armor give or take depending on how different the genders are).

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Posted by: Morrigan.2809

Morrigan.2809

I dislike human armors on Sylvari so much that I dress mine in cultural armor as soon as they come out of the tutorial- yes I burn through trans stones since I have 4 Sylvari :P.

I understand that they need to make armor sets that appeal to everyone but why not a more planty one like the TA one that can be worn by everyone?
like the Aether/Magitech/Braham sets etc

That way at least we can have something that is more natural for Sylvari

Failing that just release versions of the npc clothes for all races that people have been asking for in any case and make it wearable in combat. It is already in the game

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Posted by: Ashes.9586

Ashes.9586

Given the comment about appealing to everyone, if they were going to create another cultural set, you can bet they’d want to do it for all races, so that’d be a pretty big undertaking (3 armor sets, one for each weight class, x5 races, and doubled for human / sylvari / norn due to male / female differences, so you’re talking 40 sets of armor give or take depending on how different the genders are).

True, but it would also be pretty easy to cut down on that number/work load.

1: Limit the differences or have no difference between male and female versions on races that require them.
2: Make the same set for all armor types or with very little differences. That cuts down most if not all of the work and shouldn’t be too hard to do.

If they were to do this it would mean only 5 armor sets would need to be created. Or if they did the three armor types 15 sets. OR if they did one skin for all armor types but did male and female versions, 10. It seems like they should have enough people to assign one person per race to make any of the possible work limiting combinations, they keep making auction house skins after all.
And like other people have said the NPC skins would be a really quick fix, everyone wants them already and they wouldn’t have to make completely new sets.

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

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I want a full Toxic armor set. Who’s with me?!

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Posted by: sheepZA.7054

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Happy to see I am not the only one, and I am sure there are more.
Understand it will be lots of work to add more cultural sets, also it may not be financially viable for Anet, as cultural are not gem store items and can be bought for gold. Though not saying people would buy gems and convert to gold to get the armors. I am sure many would do that who want it quickly.

Another idea I have is to maybe add more dungeon armors. I like dungeon armors for the fact that you cannot buy it with gold, nor can the gems help you. You have to earn it. While I hated the fact initially, I do many dungeons now and happy to further customise my look with various armor pieces from the various dungeon vendors. Twilight Arbor is one dungeon that does cater a little towards Sylvari. (The armor even glows)

Here is hoping though that the plea is heard for more cultural armor, especially for Sylvari who I feel, while a new race in Tyria, are largely ignored when it comes to armor types that suit them more.

And yes would love a full Toxic armor set

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Posted by: Kain Francois.4328

Kain Francois.4328

Full Toxic armor set sounds like a great start.

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Posted by: Arghore.8340

Arghore.8340

@Electro, which could be justified if these ‘cultural’ armours were available to all the races, came from a racial attaché, and would be earned by representing a certain race and ‘quest’ for racial points.

To me, what would be a good start, is if the Sylvari armours (all) would actually mix and match properly. But currently the ‘dungeon’ armour does not mix well with at least tier2 of the cultural armour, because the chest piece totally overlaps the gloves. this could be solved by adding the sleeves of this tiers’ armour to the gloves of this tier.

Another matter related to medium armour, also plagues the cultural armour, mainly all have that longcoat design to them. Meaning I currently run the ‘ninja’ pants and vest to get another feel to my Sylvari.

So yeah, make sure the armours are better designed to mix and match, and add more pieces to the mix. Even a Toxic head/shoulder/gloves setup, that is designed well to mix and match would already increase options…

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Posted by: Elbegast.6970

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Full Toxic armor set sounds like a great start.

Here’s my medium cultural+toxic mix-n-match. Everything is dyed ‘Midnight Yew’. The head is the Heritage Bandana from HoM. Chest, legs and boots are tier 1 cultural. Shoulders and gloves are the Toxic items from the gem store.

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Posted by: Kalavier.1097

Kalavier.1097

Another matter related to medium armour, also plagues the cultural armour, mainly all have that longcoat design to them. Meaning I currently run the ‘ninja’ pants and vest to get another feel to my Sylvari.

IIRC, the medium tier 2 for Sylvari doesn’t (at least for females). It was actually my contender. Either TA medium or Tier 2 cultural for her plant armor.

I feel they could definitely use more ‘plantish’ choices, if not simply for town clothing (Lots of civilian Sylvari wearing a range of plant clothing unavailable for players as far as I know), of course, that’s true for almost every race concerning town clothing.

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Posted by: Kitta.3657

Kitta.3657

Very disappointed in the lack of leafy pieces as well. I hope one day they listen.
3 choices per armor type and billions of human-oriented armor in the rest of the game… shake my head

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Posted by: Kalavier.1097

Kalavier.1097

Very disappointed in the lack of leafy pieces as well. I hope one day they listen.
3 choices per armor type and billions of human-oriented armor in the rest of the game… shake my head

Can you really call them “Human oriented”? More like “General cloth, leather, and chainmail/plate armors.”

Also, you are forgetting that the TA dungeon armor (twilight arbor) are plant based as well.

Yes, it’d be nice to see more styles, especially given how some Sylvari mention “growing” their own armor. But calling every other set “human oriented!” is just… misguided IMO.

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Posted by: Hammurabi.5942

Hammurabi.5942

Basically your only choice for Sylvari armor is to grind TA or spend gold to get cultural armor. It kinda sucks.

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Posted by: Kitta.3657

Kitta.3657

Very disappointed in the lack of leafy pieces as well. I hope one day they listen.
3 choices per armor type and billions of human-oriented armor in the rest of the game… shake my head

Can you really call them “Human oriented”? More like “General cloth, leather, and chainmail/plate armors.”

Also, you are forgetting that the TA dungeon armor (twilight arbor) are plant based as well.

Yes, it’d be nice to see more styles, especially given how some Sylvari mention “growing” their own armor. But calling every other set “human oriented!” is just… misguided IMO.

Well in general the armors aren’t norn or charr or asura themed, are they? =/ Only a handful.
You are right that in my post I did forget the TA armors but it doesn’t really change my point. My point is that any armor that drops is human themed. There are clear aesthetic differences between what human vs. norn/charr/asura/sylvari clothing/armor styles. This seems to be all about semantics.

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Posted by: FlamingFoxx.1305

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I think that there needs to be more general armours created with the other races in mind. Every lootable armour available in game is, lets face it, designed with humans in mind. I would love to see the other races get more of a nod than just cultural armour. Asura designs are always cool and it would be great for the other races to have them. And of course we need more plant armours, because Sylvari are the greatest!

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Posted by: Hopelessalchemist.4816

Hopelessalchemist.4816

I’ve got quite a few sylvari (five of them…) and I’d love to see more sylvari styled clothes, even if I need gems to get them. Some of the TA armor is a bit odd IMO and I wouldn’t go through all the trouble to get it, and the cultural is nice but some of the sets I just don’t like- i.e. Tier 1 Light armor

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Posted by: Kalavier.1097

Kalavier.1097

I’ve got quite a few sylvari (five of them…) and I’d love to see more sylvari styled clothes, even if I need gems to get them. Some of the TA armor is a bit odd IMO and I wouldn’t go through all the trouble to get it, and the cultural is nice but some of the sets I just don’t like- i.e. Tier 1 Light armor

When looking at plant armor for my sylvari (former thief, remade into ranger) I was at first going to go for TA (I liked it best). Then I started looking and went “Actually, you know what? Tier 2 isn’t so bad for female sylvari medium. Ditch the helm and maybe the shoulders and it’s rather decent!”

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Posted by: Hopelessalchemist.4816

Hopelessalchemist.4816

I’ve got quite a few sylvari (five of them…) and I’d love to see more sylvari styled clothes, even if I need gems to get them. Some of the TA armor is a bit odd IMO and I wouldn’t go through all the trouble to get it, and the cultural is nice but some of the sets I just don’t like- i.e. Tier 1 Light armor

When looking at plant armor for my sylvari (former thief, remade into ranger) I was at first going to go for TA (I liked it best). Then I started looking and went “Actually, you know what? Tier 2 isn’t so bad for female sylvari medium. Ditch the helm and maybe the shoulders and it’s rather decent!”

My female ranger has the Tier 2 actually. It looks great, with my only complaint being the rather busy look of the leggings compared to the chest

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Posted by: sheepZA.7054

sheepZA.7054

Actually I think Anet missed a big opportunity on ascended armor crafting. They should have included unique armors for each race. That would have been a nice incentive to craft a unique piece of armor that only the Sylvari can wear…..

Right now ascended armor looks the same on almost all races.

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Posted by: Ceridwen.6703

Ceridwen.6703

I’d just like a few minor adjustments to the cultural light armor - with one of them using pants and not a skirt. Just one! That’s all! Or at an least optional arrangement that looked like pants. Plant pants. And then I’d happily embrace full cultural armour on my mesmer (ranger and warrior already have it).

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Posted by: iriyabran.6218

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Funny I logged in just to post a topic about this. I’ve been a mad sylvari armor fan since release. I have all tiers cultural and all TA sets but to a player who doesn’t play a sylvari 1 set is simply too little. Here are some clumsy sketches I tried to make. I’d really like to see sylvari armor based on roses (including the thorns), water lilies and lily of the valley. It would be nice if they’re a bit more flashy, a bit more flowy, a bit more ~~~ but tbh I’d be simpy glad if I see any new sylvari armor at all. MOAR sylvari armor please SO much potential.

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Posted by: Sylv.5324

Sylv.5324

I’d love to see new sylvari armors (yes flowers, yes flowers for male sylvari please), but a lot of the existing armors shipped without even completed glow maps, so it might be a while before we get updates. :<

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Posted by: Katreyn.4218

Katreyn.4218

I’m sure any Sylvari player will agree with the drastic need for new Sylvari armor. There is roughly 3 sets for each armor type. Not much to play with there.

I know they need to keep putting out stuff that all races can use. But I’d love to see some new options eventually. :/ With the range of possibilities I think it would be hard to fail to deliver if the option ever arrives.

But yeah, even so it might not even need to be full sets but more pieces. Like the toxic spore shoulders/gloves were within the range of possibilities.

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Posted by: Nageth.5648

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Light has about 4.5 sets (the feathered crafted set can work in a pinch). It is one of those things I’d love for them to add more of but don’t really expect anything because of the disproportionate effort vs # of people who would use it. At this point I’d be overjoyed if the flower back piece introduced during living story would have more color options (like a dye channel). I’m bored being stuck with just red and yellow.