Sylvari were meant to be dragon minions?

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Posted by: Tai Kratos.3247

Tai Kratos.3247

Sooooo…. I saw this one YouTube video that got me thinking about this, and it’s kind of a cool idea. So bear with and just see what you think. If you have any more information about this subject, I would be happy to hear it.


So, there are 6 dragons and 6 gods, and each god seems to (so far) have a matching dragon. Loosely matching, but still kind of matching.

Balthazar – Primordius
Grenth – Zhaitan
Dwayna – Jormag
Kormir (Abaddon) – “Bubbles”
Lyssa – Kralkatorrik
Melandru – Modremoth

So, Modremoth is a dragon that is very unknown right now, but since it has been connected by comments from Colin Johanson to Magumma and the fact that there is a space for a “nature dragon” to correlate to Melandru, that it is a nature dragon.

So every dragons has its minions: Primoridus and his destroyers, Zhaitan and the Risen, etc. So a nature dragon would have nature minions, right? Aaaaand what evil nature people do we know of right now? How about the nightmare court?

So it has already been established that it is possible, but difficult, to save people from the influence of the dragons, and the Nightmare court is always claiming that Ventari’s Tablet corrupted the dream away from its true intent.

It has also been stated that there are other “pale trees” and therefore the possibility of other groups of Sylvari. However, these other Trees would not have had Ventari’s tablet, so how would they have ended up?

Also, the Sylvari awoke just as the Elder Dragons were awakening in full force. The Sylvari are immune to the power of the Elder Dragons: they cannot become Risen, Icebrood, or Branded.

So here is what the video and I propose: what if the Sylvari were meant to be the minions of Mordremoth, and that nightmare is actually the true calling of the Sylvari. But by having the writings and philosophy of Ventari influence the Pale Tree as she grew, she decided to go against her true purpose and “chose her own story” against the will of her master, much in the same way Glint chose to rebel against Kralkatorrik.

So in this case, when Modremoth makes his move, the nightmare court will go join the children of the other “Dark Trees” while the children of the Pale Tree will defy their former master.

EDIT: Just saw the other post on this subject… so yeah. That happened.

(edited by Tai Kratos.3247)

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Posted by: Darkbattlemage.9612

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I don’t believe Sylvari are related to Modemoth or the Elder Dragons in general. Also I don’t think the Human gods are connected to the Elder Dragons. Yes there are six accepted human gods and six Elder Dragons, but there were more human gods in the past. Dhuum is still very much alive and it if Menzies does exist that would imply he and Balzathar have a mother, which could be the mother of the other gods or one of many parents. There also the predecessor of Abaddon that was dispose of by the former God of Secrets. And if we theory-crafting then I should point out there is reference in the Realm of Torment of Insectoid deities that predate the human gods.

As I understand the Gods of Guild Wars, they not gods in the traditional sense but more like beings of solidified magic akin to the Elder Dragons. However their purpose isn’t devouring magic but appears to promote its steady growth. When this growth exceeds their capability to regulate they first go into exile, where they try to gain control form the mists, before ultimately becoming silent and letting the Elder Dragons do their purpose.

It is possible that the Sylvari are the ‘grandchildren’ of Melandru who created the seeds and hid them in preparation of restarting the world. This is why a member from a different ‘pale tree’ still has an elven like form, as you notice the Dervish’s Melandru form looks similar to a Sylvari in build, when their tree has no interactions with known humans.

Now that I think about it that would also explain the Sylvari’s deep connection with those tree creatures we see in the trailers, whom I believe are said to be Melandru’s favored servants. Also since Sylvari seem to have a love of nature itself this would further being beings of Melandru’s creation.

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Posted by: Tuomir.1830

Tuomir.1830

Other trees – Malyck

Not corruptible – dragon minions can be corrupted, see Kudu’s Monster, [url=http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Subject_Alpha[/url].

The human gods have no known relation to the elder dragons, that’s all conjecture based on speculation and doesn’t hold up.

The Tablet of Ventari has no relation to the elder dragons, either, it is a stone tablet that an old centaur outcast carved his philosophy on. What makes you think it would have the power to remove elder dragon corruption? Again, nothing backs that up, it’s more fanfic than theory.

The sylvari awoke some 225 years after the seed for the Pale Seed was planted. It doesn’t match the first dragon awakening, nor the latest. If Mordremoth matches the awakening rhythm of the other dragons, that won’t be in give or take 50 years. We know that there are other trees, we have no idea if the awakening of their firstborn matches any dragon awakening.

This theory has nothing in it, and I hope this is the last thread made about it.

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Posted by: Sylv.5324

Sylv.5324

25 years ago, not 225.

Ardeth, Sylvari Mesmer
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Posted by: Darkbattlemage.9612

Darkbattlemage.9612

This theory has nothing in it, and I hope this is the last thread made about it.

I have a bad feeling this is just the calm before the storm.

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Posted by: Tuomir.1830

Tuomir.1830

25 years ago, not 225.

Reading comprehension, is it that hard? The seed for the pale tree was planted about 250 years ago, and the sylvari firstborn awakened about 25 years ago. 250 – 25 is 225.

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Posted by: airick.9850

airick.9850

Tuomir will have non of your nonsense. He will smite thee with all his condescending tone.

You’re absolutely right but your last sentence in your first post and your first sentence in your second post was not necessary =/. Please be pleasant and respectful.

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Posted by: Tuomir.1830

Tuomir.1830

I suppose you are right. It’s just that this is a theory pops up every now and then, with nothing new to it. Still, I apologize for my harsh tone.

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Posted by: Hystere.1873

Hystere.1873

Who’s to say the Jungle Dragon isn’t already awake? There’s no evidence that he isn’t beyond a lack of evidence that he is, but the north half of the Maguuma Jungle is now the Maguuma wastes and we know the jungle’s been dying. Further one of the dragons woke up waaaaay out in the ocean outside of the map, so who’s to say that Mordremoth didn’t wake up waaaaaaay out on the left side of the map? There’s no evidence that the dragon is asleep and even if it was, we know that minions can be active long before the dragons wake up with the example of the Destroyers. On top of /that/, we know the Pale Tree’s seed was stolen from a cache, meaning it was probably planted before it was intended to be, so even if it’s off-schedule there’s a clear reason for it.