Guild Wars 2

So, anyone who’s gone to the Infinity Coil in Mount Maelstrom might note it has six “zones”, each based off of a known dragon. Well, most of them, anyway.

Zone Black – Zhaitan
Zone Red – Primordius
Zone White – Jormag
Zone Violet – Kralkatorrik
Zone Blue (Unfinished) – Deep Sea Dragon

But in this reactor of dragon energy, there’s also Zone Green, a zone overrun by plantlife.

The implication is that there is a sixth force much like the elder dragons that the Inquest have discovered. And I can’t help but wonder if there’s some connection to the Sylvari, here. Of course, the Sylvari are immune to dragon corruption that we’ve seen, but they’re also very vulnerable to a specific form of corruption – falling to Nightmare.

Hmm… It makes you wonder, doesn’t it?

We did fight a dragon in the Dream, no?

Perhaps the Nightmare -is- the source of the sixth dragon. If it takes over the Pale Tree, it’ll be released into the world through her. The Nightmare Court are actively seeking to corrupt the Dream of Dreams, perhaps the goal is to weaken the will of the Pale Tree? Who knows!

First off: We already have a thread on this. We don’t need another one.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lore/Spoilers-ArenaNet-confirms-the-fan-theories-about-Elder-Dragons/first

Second: We don’t know that 6th area has anything to do with a Dragon. The Inquest have been studying the Sylvari despite the rest of the Asura rendering it as unethical. That 6th area could be nothing more than an area where they were studying the Sylvari. NOTHING about it says that it was where they were studying a dragon. The other areas could have been where they were studying weapons, or maybe branded/risen. It does not mean they were studying the dragons themselves.

The Nightmare is not part of the Dragons, and is something else entirely. It’s something specific to the Dream- which has nothing to do with dragons either.

And as far as fighting a Dragon in the Dream? That is part of the Dream’s vision of your Wyld Hunt as the player character. The Dream is showing you what you’ll have to fight later on in your life. Caithe is the only other Sylvari to have seen a Dragon in her Dream. And she became part of Destiny’s Edge, whose whole mission is to fight the Dragons and their minions.

The Nightmare is not a Dragon. The Pale Tree is not a Dragon. The Nightmare Court want to spread the Nightmare to the Pale Tree to sway it over to their views. It has nothing to do with the Dragons.

Stop being so silly.

Wow, kind of “no no no not explaining this anymore” aren’t we.

Anyway, biggest issue I see with making the Pale Tree a defected underling of a dragon is that an expansion would be entirely Sylvari centric. Doubt they’d go that direction.

Nageth.5648:

Wow, kind of “no no no not explaining this anymore” aren’t we.

Anyway, biggest issue I see with making the Pale Tree a defected underling of a dragon is that an expansion would be entirely Sylvari centric. Doubt they’d go that direction.

It just seems to go against nearly everything that ANet’s established for the Sylvari so far.

I had to deal with enough crazy ideas on other games.

No one is asking you to “deal” with anything. I really hope you don’t read fan fiction for your own mental health.

No one is asking you to “deal” with anything. I really hope you don’t read fan fiction for your own mental health.

Imagine we simply don’t respond to some of these crazy ideas. We let them grow as they will, without anyone contesting them despite them obviously being inane.

What happens then is that more people read these ideas, with noone going “NO THIS IS TERRIBLE” and they accept them as good ideas, or even fact.

And suddenly we’re dealing with Sylvari running around spouting off about how they’re the spawn of this and that dragon and they’re going to help take over the world.

This is not a good thing.

I see far more credibility in the idea that the world is subject to cycles of spitting out new races—elder dragons were firstborn of a previous cycle, the human gods firstborns of another, and so on.

The pale tree’s seed predates the transformation of the dwarves, so it is less liekly to be a reaction to that event, but that is another theory I’ve heard, too.

Then there is the wild theory that the human gods created everything, and the dragons were a failed creation, while they sylvari are creations of Melandru.

Want something more abstract? The sentient races are the embodiment of order, the dragons of chaos, and the races are simply these primordial forces given form.

The bottom line is that nothing means anything until ArenaNet says it does, and even then, it could just be misinformation—the perceptions of the imperfect characters of the world being communicated to the players. For a long time, Glint was not a minion, Kralkatorik was a hill, and primordius was a statue. A slight change to narrative, and these things would not have changed. The only way we will have anything but crazy theories is to wait and find out what happens next.

Edit: Fixed typos; i really need to Preview more.

Illushia, you certainly have an inflated sense of self. Do you realize how many bad ideas are uttered every day without your prior approval? Better yet do you have any idea how many bad ideas you’ve uttered? Really, if you want to talk about an idea talk about the idea and don’t try to degrade the person writing it.

Nageth.5648:

Illushia, you certainly have an inflated sense of self. Do you realize how many bad ideas are uttered every day without your prior approval? Better yet do you have any idea how many bad ideas you’ve uttered? Really, if you want to talk about an idea talk about the idea and don’t try to degrade the person writing it.

This has nothing to do with me and everything with the idea being horrible.

Illushia.3721:

The Nightmare is not a Dragon. The Pale Tree is not a Dragon. The Nightmare Court want to spread the Nightmare to the Pale Tree to sway it over to their views. It has nothing to do with the Dragons.

Stop being so silly.

Fully agree with your whole post, but quoting this specific part for emphasis.

People saying that the Nightmare has anything to do with a dragon is practically saying that Gaheron Baelfire is a dragon. It’s a long stretch. It’s entirely a sylvari-specific problem, and neither the race nor the Court happen to be associated with the elder dragons.

Outside of, clearly, it being their destiny to bring about their downfall.

Just about every single line of reasoning that’s been used for why people have come to believe this is EASILY debunked, with just a little knowledge of actual GW2 lore.