Guild Wars 2

Slwoly, there are more and more players starting to complain about guesting, that wish it to stop. I know it is not the majority, but still, I can’t accept this.

You guys (referring to the ones that wanna stop it) say they are selfish and you just can’t get into your own Server! Yes, they may be selfish and yes it may be annoying, but stil, you are being alot more selfish!
You know, we, the Tequatl Killer Squad, are guesting on low population server for this. And we are not only doing this for us! I have been getting mails and pms from members of Fissure of Woe, Vabbi, Underworld and some more, that they would like our help!!!

On our first attempt on Vabbi, we have had 6 Vabbians in our guild and 3 others join. We have then had 50 to 60 people of our guild leave Vabbi for a second to get 2 more Vabbians on our TS in there. We are actually helping those people, or atleast we try to!
The same with Fissure of Woe. We tried to get many Fissure of Woe main people in there! We actually want the low population server to do this event, too!
I have had people telling me, they might have left their low population server, because they couldn’t do these events, but they actually didn’t want to leave, because of their community. They told me, that because of this, they can stay there now and I received a lot of thanks mails and pms!

It has come so far, that they actually send me gold to go to their server or just as a thanks after doing it. I have sent every single one back!
I will try to organize on every single low population server and memby even mid population server! Also some overflow attempts, and we will get people that want those achievements in there. We will be helping them.
I want the people to appreciate seeing TKS and TSS on their server. We want to help you!

Removing guesting system would therefore be the most selfish thing ever! You would deny our 750 guild members (yeah we got that many in 2 guilds by now soon) and the people we help! People on low pop server that desperately want to do Tequatl, but still keep on their server! Would you really be willing to deny all these peoples their hope and fun, just to get maybe into a non overflow?

Sorry for this slight amount of rage, but I wanted to get my point across!

Edit: People tend to get confused ^^ I’m not Vabbian, I’m Blacktider xD

I doubt they will remove it.

They shouldn’t touch guesting infact, just stop releasing kittenty developed contents. XD

Don’t worry.

They won’t disable the guesting system. Not over this. Not over any temporary over-subscription like this. It’s new and everyone wants to succeed now but in another week or two even the busiest servers won’t have people being put into overflows.

Put it this way, when was the last time you saw an overflow in Orr?

It’s a feature of the game, the game was sold promising it and I doubt we will ever see it removed. The whining will die down soon, the people moaning about not be able to play on their home server are often forgetting that most servers have a queue regardless of whether they have beaten Tequatl or not, of course the map is full – people want to try the new content! The same people would also guest to another server if they didn’t think they had a chance to get the rewards they wanted on their home server. If you want to play with your friends, they can always guest to another server with you, or join you in an overflow. The only “problem” here is the entitlement people feel to rewards from a home server (you don’t hear many complaints about guesting from servers that aren’t beating Tequatl yet despite them also having queues). There is no legitimate argument in favour of removing guesting, the people asking for it don’t have a leg to stand on and very likely would be some of the first people to guest to another server themselves if they thought it was necessary for them to succeed in the event.

at launch Pifil :p I do not like the way gw2 is going so I might take a while off, idk only reason I stay is because of Living story and my guild. Living story is going to shikittents and guilds are not getting anything patch after patch so I’ll probably go play my old MMO, take some time off from the LS rush.

Arrow.3856:

I doubt they will remove it.

I know they won’t it was more of a message to those who want that to happen. xD

Pifil.5193:

Don’t worry.

They won’t disable the guesting system. Not over this. Not over any temporary over-subscription like this. It’s new and everyone wants to succeed now but in another week or two even the busiest servers won’t have people being put into overflows.

Put it this way, when was the last time you saw an overflow in Orr?

Yep, that’s prolly what’s going to happen, and at some point they’ll even stop bothering on biggest servers. So they removed a possibly boring?/farmable?/eccessively easy world event to generate a week of extreme hype/frustration which will be a ghost town and a waste of a content in what? 1 month max. Karka queen docet.

I support this topic! +1

I’d also like to be able to guest to my EU friends’ server now and then. In GW1, due to my schedule, I ended up making friends with and joining an EUguild, which I’ve played with in GW1 for years. I was so excited when guesting was finally implemented since everyone from that guild got the new game. ‘Lo and behold, I can’t guest to an EU server since I’m tied to an American account. I was a bit surprised since after a year of GW1’s release, one was allowed to swap home server locations once or twice, total; then after two years, it was converted into an easy channel swap system. I’m still in the remade guild but can’t join in any of their activities on the weekends. Le sigh.

Krugash.4920:

Yep, that’s prolly what’s going to happen, and at some point they’ll even stop bothering on biggest servers. So they removed a possibly boring?/farmable?/eccessively easy world event to generate a week of extreme hype/frustration which will be a ghost town and a waste of a content in what? 1 month max. Karka queen docet.

There is a balance here that I think they’re missing. In the future I think they will definitely have to revisit this event and rebalance it for fewer people otherwise they will have effectively removed it. However, I’m not counting on any kind of quick turn around: even if every server quit trying right now I doubt they’d revisit this in the next year.

Their course seems to be rigidly set and they’re rather slow to both deliver content and to change it, they’re like an oil tanker which is dangerous for an MMO, IMO.

I dont mind guesting, I like people to guest. I guest to other servers. But when guests take the spots of players who are originally from that server is a bit unfair. These people paid gems to be on that server only to be taken by some player who is guesting.

Guesting inst the issue, its the overflows.

What we need (really as a community) is for guests to take a back seat to the home server players when overflows start to spawn. If there is an overflow, Guests get kicked from the root when home players enter the zone. When the over flow pops, and you get queued, home players take precedence over guests.

Increase the zone limits to 300-400. (up from 180-200)

problem solved – in regards to this topic.

@KehxD.6847 your post is an indication of a good leader. More of what we need. Instead of QQing all day about a problem, you seem to be the type to find a resolve.
Plus one to your post.

Kehx? are you serious? It´s kind awesoem you wanna help low population servers.
And its great Deso started organzing.
Go, go to your low popultaions erver and have fun there, helping ppl.
But as soon as it comes to a open world event – which is supposed to be doen by randoms.
And my own server organzies, and i actually helped doing it. Im not very exited about being banned to overflow, because people like your guild filling the spot on my server.

Its totally ok, people guest on low popularity servers. But those who call the servers their home, should at least be prioritized in queing.

And im freaking kitten ed about not beeing able to join my server, and instead beeing stuck in overflow – where at least i dont even know, what server this overflow is, having 5 stupid afkers standing nect to me, trying to kill teq, while freaking loot-whores camp my server. and i have to wait for 8 kittening hours and more. WTF??!

Beside the fact, its kinda weird, that you pvers need a guild to kill a dragon, the idea of guesting in low pop servers is great.

ty for opening this thread – i logged just in for this “QQ stop guesting” thread. We [TKS] do this for the low pop server. I left yesterday for one Vabbi guy that he can go in (it dont work really but we tried).
Servers like Vabbi havent the chance to kill teq with just 6 people.

I talked with few vabbian guys last days and i feel with them. They log in and wrote in chat – nobody is answering, because nobody is on the map. I think its not the point that people from low pop server should guest every and every day.
Its time for anet to fix this and help this people! And why should they pay for transfer when anet doesnt support them?

sirsquishy.8531:

Guesting inst the issue, its the overflows.

What we need (really as a community) is for guests to take a back seat to the home server players when overflows start to spawn. If there is an overflow, Guests get kicked from the root when home players enter the zone. When the over flow pops, and you get queued, home players take precedence over guests.

Increase the zone limits to 300-400. (up from 180-200)

problem solved – in regards to this topic.

What!!!??? So guests should lose all their efforts and wasted all their time? That’s just plain self-centered and selfish. Do you not understand why it’s guesting galore right now?

I think most people that are complaining about guesters just don’t have a clue what it’s like to unfortunately be stuck on a low population server and will never understand. Honestly at this point it’s on anet, they needed to merge servers a long time ago and for some reason they just don’t.

Kitta.3657:

sirsquishy.8531:

Guesting inst the issue, its the overflows.

What we need (really as a community) is for guests to take a back seat to the home server players when overflows start to spawn. If there is an overflow, Guests get kicked from the root when home players enter the zone. When the over flow pops, and you get queued, home players take precedence over guests.

Increase the zone limits to 300-400. (up from 180-200)

problem solved – in regards to this topic.

What!!!??? So guests should lose all their efforts and wasted all their time? That’s just plain self-centered and selfish. Do you not understand why it’s guesting galore right now?

I think most people that are complaining about guesters just don’t have a clue what it’s like to unfortunately be stuck on a low population server and will never understand. Honestly at this point it’s on anet, they needed to merge servers a long time ago and for some reason they just don’t.

We do have a clue, and we paid w/gold or real money to be on these servers. Stop being a guest and pay like the rest of us, and help build the community within the server.

or we can continue this idea of guest>loot>thanks!>leave

I would like to see transfer cost sale, let these “empty” servers merge together on medium pop and start building communities that will benefit from the size of the content Anet trying to push out.

It is not unheard of or a bad thing one year after a mmo release that servers are consolidated and closed. This would also change the dynamic of those bottom tier WvWvW, all together a better experience.

Low pop servers are a bad thing on any mmo; players leave the game, negative atmosphere (losing pvp, unable to complete/open pve content), lack of a community. Pretty safe to say many MMO players have stayed with a game mainly because of the community or guild before.

First of all I want to thank you very much for coming at Whiteside Ridge to help us kill Tequatl. I was there at the first try and I saw how you act, how you talk to people. You were answering even the stupidest of questions and weren`t raging when we didn`t get kill for the first time. Unfortunately I got game crash and was kicked from the world where you were fighting when it was already full, so I couldn`t get back and didn`t see how it was killed.

Secondly I would like to ask all the people who rage at the guests to go to unpopulated server and try this event there. It will be even better if it is an overflow. Then and only then you`ll understand why we`re leaving to other worlds as guests.

Thanks again to TKS. You guys and girls are just great =)

They should disable guesting, and make the idiots who guest a server 24/7 join the actual server.

Right now there are over 30 akitteng guests on my main server, disable it.

There is a new paradigm developing. Groups are organizing in overflows and leaving the main servers to AFK types.

Blow me with your guesting and overflows. Honestly ever since this Crapuatl kitten started I wasn’t able to be in sparkly fen ONCE on desolation, ONCE -.-

I don’t want it disabled (most of us people that have issues with guesting don’t either). We do want it to be a bit more restricted though… like limit the percentage of people able to guest… or only guest if you have a friend online on that server… or more priority for non-guests… or guesters get put into overflow from main when the cap is reached… or some combination… etc. etc.

It’s just how it is now that’s the problem (broken).

I understand why some of you guys doing this stuff to help other people, but, don’t guest into someone else server. especially the super packed one. i am still on the disable guesting team, but maybe what anet need is to open specific overflow that people can choose, and not just toss them around to some random overflow, therefor people like you guys who organizing a guild for this type of events can have their own server to do it without making other people get upset. because waiting for 8 hours to get into your own server for me personally is like a slap in the face. i just want to do the content, how hard can it be? the tequatl itself when you know the mechanic it’s not so hard at all. what hard is to get into your own server, and making pugs listen to what we need to do. this is what makes people want guesting to be disable. just look at some of those server that already beat tequatl. most of them beat it not in their home server, but in an overflow. they have no other options except to bring their own native people to transfer to an empty overflow since all other people from other server guesting to this high population server hoping they can share the victory. there is obviously some wrong things going on with the guesting system.

The only problem is the entitlement players feel when their home servers are doing well. There is no issue playing with your friends – guesting and overflows both allow you to all play on the same map. People feel entitled to rewards when their home server is doing well on the event and overflows aren’t.

There is no problem with guesting.

When your server probably has at least a dozen times as many players as can fit on one map, guesting has very little impact. I have to wait hours to get on my server, and that’s one that only brought Tequatl down once. We’re not attracting a lot of guest, let me assure you. Guests have very little to do with full maps if you’re on a server with high-very high population.

Manasa Devi.7958:

When your server probably has at least a dozen times as many players as can fit on one map, guesting has very little impact. I have to wait hours to get on my server, and that’s one that only brought Tequatl down once. We’re not attracting a lot of guest, let me assure you. Guests have very little to do with full maps if you’re on a server with high-very high population.

You might be right, tbh. But in that fact, Id be very glad, to put ppl in the same overflow, so they have a chance to do the event – and not one with 30 players, where are 10 afkers.
And/Or i would like to know, on what specific server i am. Because maybe Id liek to check the timer for the event being up.