Guild Wars 2

With teq requiring a huge amount of DPS and 80+ players, the detriment of players using non zerker gear is now borderline griefing. They will make the event much more difficult to complete and will not be helpful to have anywhere but on the turrets.

Since griefing is a bannable offense will we be allowed to report players for not using zerker gear at the new teq?

…banning….for gear?…..

All I can say is wow….. Hope this is a troll post!

And then all the zerkers will be dead and non Zerkers have to ress them…
“Oh, you’re alive?! Report!”

I can’t even discern seriousness from trolling anymore… You are really asking for people to get banned for their playstyle? You don’t have the right to tell anyone how to play unless he is part of your organized guild group or something. Which will not be the case since this is an open world event and anyone has the right to participate.

Let me guess, you also want people who level up in this zone and are not level 80 to not participate in the event, right?

Did you see the video? People were dying, even the guardian that was streaming. Also if you watched it you would notice a lot of time was soaked up when tequatl when invulnerable and also when people were sucked into the portals. It’s not about maxing dps its about a steady stream of dps. Same logic applies to zerker and non zerker. Sure you can max your dps but if you die easily then you’re doing nothing which means 0 dps and time wasted.

MrZero.4730:

Let me guess, you also want people who level up in this zone and are not level 80 to not participate in the event, right?

That brings up a good question will they be doing upleveling for the Living story then removing it later? I don’t know. don’t think so though as they did not for clockwork chaos. I think this living story might be one that leaves a few players out. Maybe due to this they won’t have much of a story to it.

On topic. Um…… More DPS is not always better. I wonder what you would do without all those AOE heals that you get.

Since this is permanent and not a temp LS, upscalling isn’t really an issue since you’ll get to the appropriate level needed to do the event someday, just like every other piece of permanent content in the game.

Actually, I think Teq (as with all other world bosses such as Jormag and stuff) can’t be critted, which makes power builds the do-all in these events.

So power main gear (such as the hated PVT in dungeons) are the ones that will be DPSers, aaaand if I were you I’d go PVT on world bosses. You don’t crit a lot, friend, and you get much more safety.

Zerker is only useful once you can crit (which means they’re good for mob defense) but other than that I’d rather go PVT if I’m going to plink away at a boss… unless Teq can be critted this time around.

Advent is correct. You cannot crit Teq, so Berserker is very bad for attacking the dragon itself.

Avatara.1042:

Advent is correct. You cannot crit Teq, so Berserker is very bad for attacking the dragon itself.

Still, does this make it ok for people to ask for bans if they don’t like your armor stats?

of course not.

really? you aren’t running zerker gear so you feel useless?

be default, almost by definition, if you are not using Berserker gear you are using something a little more defensive or supportive. How are you useless just because the guy next to you does more damage? I bet your conditions do more damage than his, or you can take a hit better, or you can heal better..

How about we wait until it actually comes out before we pass judgement huh?

MrZero.4730:

Avatara.1042:

Advent is correct. You cannot crit Teq, so Berserker is very bad for attacking the dragon itself.

Still, does this make it ok for people to ask for bans if they don’t like your armor stats?

Personally, it’s hard to know whether or not people are griefing or are either clueless or compensating for their capabilities. High lag and knights gear would be better for you since you can tank. Buuut going to report? That’s like… extreme, dude.

I’m just trying to tell OP that his perception that zerk is be-all, end all in PvE mathematically if and only if it’s stationary/large-scale world bosses is wrong, because you can’t crit. So kicking people because of that would not only be wrong, it would be blatantly misinformed aaaand pretty much poor judgement on his end.

In related news: ~50% of humans polled believe satire is something for their car, 100% of cats swear they’ve never heard of it and wouldn’t take part in that sort of thing, honest.

Anyway, I wouldn’t worry about it. If it’s that bad, just do it once and let it go the way of Southsun.

DPS comes in many forms. I have seen Necros with Rabid gear kill a host of mobs in the same time that it takes a Zerker warrior kill 1.

I am hoping that the TQ is going to be more like a raid situation in which it will be NECESSARY to have other builds in order to take him down. Somebody has to protect all these zerker single target killers while the dragon DoTs them to death.

I think coordination and tactics will win out in the end, not specific builds.

I think TC is clueless, PVT gear and Zerk gear does the same damage on world bosses. Difference being Zerkers are on the ground all the time doing 0 damage. I say we ban zerkers for griefing.

Ashabhi.1365:

DPS comes in many forms. I have seen Necros with Rabid gear kill a host of mobs in the same time that it takes a Zerker warrior kill 1.

I am hoping that the TQ is going to be more like a raid situation in which it will be NECESSARY to have other builds in order to take him down. Somebody has to protect all these zerker single target killers while the dragon DoTs them to death.

I think coordination and tactics will win out in the end, not specific builds.

Eh, world bosses seem to have a consistent 25 stacks of bleed and quite likely are poisoned from start to finish. I can still get credit using necro w/ rabid but its actual damage output probably isn’t spectacular on those.

For the love of God wear anything except Zerker gear. The zerker noobs are the ones that are going to wipe us…you are useless if you keep getting downed….

Most people that know how the game works are using Zerker on the easy, poorly-designed dungeons and not wasting their time using it on world bosses who can’t be crit.

I’ll just stroll in on my zerker because screw getting another set of armour just for objects. Or I could just focus on clearing mobs.

…or I could just use my WvW gear since there you actually need defensive stats depending on where you are in the zerg/raid.

Gear discrimination in open world is pretty sad though, seeing “zerk guard lfg can tag with staff” while people were ember farming is just … wow.

Yeah, considering open world is pretty much something you can do with your eyes closed. I’ve ran around in zergs before I was even done loading a map. You know, that part where it hovers around the waypoint you joined and you can move, but the camera just stays there?

… Someone knows.

Anyways, if I can help kill champs without even seeing what I’m doing, you can’t convince me open world pve is anything challenging. I’ve even managed to fight Shatterer and Teq that way. You don’t need gear, you just need fingers and a 1 key.

Love how people are defending the crit logic on teq

Not like mobs will be attacking the cannoneers or anything…

The thing about zerker gear is that it is simultaneously the most noob and most elite gear in most pve/dungeons (not dragons though).

It’s noob in that many player immediately stack zerker in order to do the most damage without actually understanding the content they’re doing and then get downed a lot.

It’s elite in that people who do actually know what they’re doing can avoid damage and deal as much direct damage as possible in the shortest amount of time.

Berserker gear is not noob gear and it’s not elite gear. It’s both.

Waaaait. Why need a group that is a.) a guard and b.) zerk in PvE?

If you are taking damage then you need to learn to either 1. Not stand in red circles or 2. dodge. There is not a single situation in the game I have come across where I can not avoid 100% of damage using the above two points. There is no need for AOE heals, or high toughness or any of that. If you are taking damage you need to l2p, end of story.

Also you can crit on teq during his lasered phase, which makes zerker again the top. Condition specs can do good damage if they are alone in a vacuum, but when was the last time you saw the condition stack on a world boss not reach cap in .1 seconds? Condition specs do the WORST damage of any spec in existence to world bosses. It would literally be better if they weren’t there at all since it would reduce zerker geared players lag letting them do more damage.

And you do NOT get to play how you want when it is interfering with my gameplay. If you want to solo or run guild groups or whatever that is fine, but your right to play how you desire ends where it becomes harassing, personal attacking, or griefing another player, which is what will be happening if you bring a non-zerker to the new teq.

I am still awaiting a dev response on if this form of griefing will be bannable, thank you.

Not saying I don’t believe you guys or anything but where could I find this information that we can’t crit bosses?

I honestly never actually noticed seeing how fast they die atm the only thing that matters is getting enough hits in. XD

Reporting players for wearing non-’Zerker gear? Good gawd… :facepalm:

It’s ridiculous posts like these that make me hope that ‘Zerker will one day go the way of Wayfarer and Explorer’s.

LameFox.6349:

Anyway, I wouldn’t worry about it. If it’s that bad, just do it once and let it go the way of Southsun.

I don’t know what you’re talking about. Players are constantly harvesting in Southsun, and we’ve been killing the Karka Queen at least twice per day for the past week in Sorrow’s Furnace.

EnemyCrusher.7324:

LameFox.6349:

Anyway, I wouldn’t worry about it. If it’s that bad, just do it once and let it go the way of Southsun.

I don’t know what you’re talking about. Players are constantly harvesting in Southsun, and we’ve been killing the Karka Queen at least twice per day for the past week in Sorrow’s Furnace.

Same for Yak’s Bend & we get overflows for it too.

If condition damage limits stay same – 50 condition users will be count as 1-2

OP DELIVARS!!!

The devs will never respond to the cluster you just created.

Really can’t believe what you are suggesting, what if I bring, let’s say a dire guardian? that’s the way I want to play, and your way of playing is not the way I like to play so you are griefing me (your logic).

This is an open world event, you will have low level people, all the jobs, all the races, all different type of builds and you won’t be able to do anything about that because you are just one small fish in the sea… oh and if you start insulting and talking about this griefing to you, then most likely you will get reported for bad conduct and banned.

Cheers

Not sure if trolling or..

I’ll bring my full zerg because I don’t want to be banned for harassing….but I need to learn the fight and a PVT taking hits will do damage as they won’t be on the floor and learn the mechanics…….but If I’m on the floor dead I’m harrassing and increasing the time of this fight with people wasting time reviving me so i should be booted……but then I can’t learn the fight.

I want to learn to play I really do but you are not allowing me too.

screw this, Anet can you give me an extra elite skill that just nets me achievements and a chest daily.

Exactly, it is an open world event, not a private little elitist group that you can control. People will run what they want to run. I know I will. If you can’t handle others playing the way they want maybe this isn’t the game for you or stick to your own little group. To even think that it would be reportable is utterly ridiculous.

You know what was really funny? Watching all the “zerker whatevers” laying dead on the ground during the aetherblade phase of scarlet’s invasions. It is a waste of everyone elses time rezzing those godly zerkers. Maybe it should be zerkers that are reported for interfering with my game play.

Just don’t bring condition builds

that is all.