Guild Wars 2

I just want to point out a few things. Overflows barely if even have enough people to get the event done. Due to the organization needed afk players and the general mentality that you can not get it done on an overflow further hinder efforts. Many players simply get locked out of the content and will continue to do so because of the next issue.

Guesting has a place but on larger servers I can not help but wonder whats the point of having a homeworld? Even before this due to champion farms and other events players from larger servers essentially get locked out of content on their server and now due to the time limits you have basically put us in a bad situation. Before if you could not make it into your world you would have to guest a smaller server. While a feasible solution now due to everything having a time limit often the situation is beat the clock with too few people.

Now eventually I know the content will become run of the mill as players will learn to do it more efficiently and easily with time. The problem is even when we hit that point overflows will often be filled with skilled players who know how to do the content but simply do not have the numbers.

Even past this I think we need to look at how guesting works. Right now I can not see a point in homeworlds beside WvW. You asked us to make a decision and we did. In the long run smaller servers can’t get the numbers for big content and bigger servers see a large part of their population locked out. With very little tools that allows us to organize in game.

I am not complaining about the difficulty of the content or the need to put an effort in my point is the execution is sloppy and leads to the same bad tendencies we have always seen. Guest a popular server while semi-AFK, and have others do the work for you.

I do not know what the solution is but there should be something that makes it more valuable to do something on your home server with your own community.

The only problem i have with guesting is: why do i have to get in overflow on my home server, because some one wants to guest over for a world boss?

At first, everyone rushes in because they want to see the new content.

After a few days of waiting hours at a time for Teq to spawn only to realize their server can’t defeat him, people look for alternatives like guesting.

After a few days of waiting hours at a time for Teq to spawn on the guested server only to realize they can’t defeat him either, people will stop trying.

Once people stop trying there won’t be any more overflows.

Give it a week.

Mars.6319:

At first, everyone rushes in because they want to see the new content.

After a few days of waiting hours at a time for Teq to spawn only to realize their server can’t defeat him, people look for alternatives like guesting.

After a few days of waiting hours at a time for Teq to spawn on the guested server only to realize they can’t defeat him either, people will stop trying.

Once people stop trying there won’t be any more overflows.

Give it a week.

This is true in my experience, but I still find it frustrating to wait in overflow limbo. I wish the technology could be improved enough to handle it.

Maybe you’re on overflow because some players on your home server don’t leave the map between events.

Guesting needs to be removed completely, or guests need to be kicked out if someone from the home server wants to enter the zone.

How it works is completely ridiculous right now.

I’ve been trying to get into the mainworld on my server (Desolation) for over a day, this is bullkitten.

Maybe they should have disabled guesting for this 2 week event.

People are selfish and greedy it seems. Im sorry that people in smaller servers want a chance to succeed, Im sorry that not everyone has the numbers to feasibly do it, Im sorry that you cant share your worlds.

I’m angry. My server (Desolation) just beat Teq and I had to be stuck in overflow because 1. of course I had to disconnect, and 2. bazillion guests happened to decide to flood my server so I could never get back in. I was in the attempt right before the success, with my friends, on my HOME server, did not die once, and we had gotten him down to 1/3 or something, can’t remember right now. I wanted to succeed together with my friends and server – we were all sure we’d get him the next time (which we did, and I wasn’t there), we all wanted to be EU’s first. This was going to be a very pleasant memory for me in a game I love (I must love it now that I’m back after 7 months – only to see some things will never change). Thank you very kitten much for ruining it.

I don’t usually guest to other servers for things like this, but this time I had to because it was just not possible. I have tried to defeat Tequatl so many times on my server, but the most amount of people that would show up was around 10-15, and most of them would ditch after 1-2mins. realizing there was no purpose in staying because it’s an automatic defeat. So I’m sorry if I’m the reason that one of you can’t play on your home server, but I’m not sorry for having to do what I have to do to get my rewards from this event.

Whimpered.6095:

I don’t usually guest to other servers for things like this, but this time I had to because it was just not possible. I have tried to defeat Tequatl so many times on my server, but the most amount of people that would show up was around 10-15, and most of them would ditch after 1-2mins. realizing there was no purpose in staying because it’s an automatic defeat. So I’m sorry if I’m the reason that one of you can’t play on your home server, but I’m not sorry for having to do what I have to do to get my rewards from this event.

First off I can not blame you for doing what you have to do to get content done. Anyone of us guesting a smaller server because ours is packed for other content (Jormag etc) is doing the same thing. That being said I never pointed the finger at players solely but the devs. This type of event undermines the idea of community based on server. I may be from BG myself but that doesn’t mean I do not understand your point of view or feel like I am being robbed of content due to your actions. We are all being robbed due to Anet’s decisions. And while I understand why they do certain things certain ways they have no idea of scope sometimes.

They created content that is too much for small servers, requires too much organization for overflows, and makes players flock to bigger servers. It wasn’t your decision to do this. They wanted to provide us with better and more difficult content. We asked for that but instead of just doing what is best (give us an instanced raid) they left it open world.

I love open world content as it allows anybody to run up and participate. It makes sure that elite minded players can not keep anyone form any content. The drawback is that if you make it too rigorous or tough and require too many bodies the content becomes nearly impossible for a group of casual players to pull off.

Furthermore casual players are not semi-hardcore or hardcore players. They have jobs, children, and other responsibilities that prevents them from taking on difficult content with the fervor of others. This speaks nothing to their dedication but to priorities. With loot being so abysmal for this type of work it really about getting the meta achievements and moving on. In the future this may be like Jormag and many other bits of world content we have. Like one player told me,“It simply is not worth it. It makes more sense to farm with the champ train.” The reality is even past this 2 week event this content isn’t worth the effort.

There are so many issues I think people might be getting caught up on the guesting alone. It is more than that.

@Whimpered: TheGuy said it all so much better than I could possibly do in my anger. My criticism was never directed at players – Sorry if I failed at my attempt to express myself properly above.

Kargath.6598:

The only problem i have with guesting is: why do i have to get in overflow on my home server, because some one wants to guest over for a world boss?

This + 1

Give it a few weeks people will get tired of it then it will turn into something your server schedules and overflows will be less common.

Quick question for people in high pop servers; Am I wasting my time waiting in overflow for a chance to get into TC?

I ask this because I assume there is 100 people partied up with a guildie spamming the join instance button.

If anyone has had any luck getting into a server like BG, TC or SoR by waiting in OF let me know, please and thank you.

People on low population server need to guest so it not unfair at all,and big guilds can take over low population server to so it go booths ways.

anzenketh.3759:

Give it a few weeks people will get tired of it then it will turn into something your server schedules and overflows will be less common.

It’s been how many months since guesting was introduced? And yet people never got tired of guesting on TC.

The entire thing needs to be removed so victim servers can get their communities back.

Nice that I can’t get into TC the day I need to and it’s my home server.

Complete bullkitten, kick the afkers out.

@Adorable Kinkajou: My response wasn’t in retaliation, it was more to let people who happen to read it (mainly aimed at those who are always “guesting shouldn’t exist” no matter what event is going on) that there are reasons why guesting should never be removed. I had the same problems most high population servers are having from this event when Clockwork Chaos was on, because I was always in overflow on my home server no matter what time/map I played, so I’ve been on both sides of the never-ending argument.

@TheGuy: Yes, I understand that you weren’t pointing fingers, and I agree 110% that there are more and far more important issues other than guesting and I wish people would pay mind to those instead of always blaming things on the less trivial issues. It will eventually balance itself out once players figure things out.

No harm done.

Banono.4597:

Quick question for people in high pop servers; Am I wasting my time waiting in overflow for a chance to get into TC?

I ask this because I assume there is 100 people partied up with a guildie spamming the join instance button.

If anyone has had any luck getting into a server like BG, TC or SoR by waiting in OF let me know, please and thank you.

Fat lot of good spamming anything did to me and many others on my server, so I wouldn’t know.

Killface.1896:

People on low population server need to guest so it not unfair at all,and big guilds can take over low population server to so it go booths ways.

Which defeats the purpose of a “Home World”. Like I said n my second post it is not just about guesting.

Apologies as a guest earlier today to the Blackgate community. I was able to get in for 5 attempts on Tequatl and learned alot to take back to my home server in order to help potentially down it there which hopefully alleviates more people having to guest to the higher servers. Also everyone there was respectful and didn’t seem to have that huge an issue with it which I greatly appreciated. Progress was made every attempt and the commanders were organized and took the time to explain what to do with each new event attempt to the people that had just joined. If anything Blackgate came away a winner for showcasing the good their community has in organization and guild leaders who care to work with one another towards a common goal. Hats off to Blackgate.

i tried last 4 respawns to join my guild on there map for 20-30 mins from overflow per group while they had in 1 trie tequatl on 2%

worsed experience ever – this is jsut fail

make it instanced or delete it – thx

ANet doesn’t care about how destructive overflows are.
I very well remember an interview from 2009 or 2010 and even back then they clearly laid out the overflow mechanic they wanted to implement, the exact same we got today.
They’ve done literally nothing in 3-4 years to improve it.