Guild Wars 2

/sarcasm

Seems that a lot of people are guesting to BG just because we beat him (first), and it’s rather annoying to me that, as a Blackgate member, I’m always stuck in the overflow.

Sorry, but I really think something needs to be done about this; it’s bad for both Blackgate and their original server. Tequatl doesn’t need a nerf, other servers just actually need to work together and stop server jumping just to improve your chances.

Suggestion: Make world boss rewards unavailable unless you complete it on your server.

I don’t want to be stuck in overflow with a lower population, mostly made up of afkers and people who plain just don’t listen (and sit on the floor dead), while people from other servers are taking up spots to “leech” off of our success/coordination instead of working to help their own server.

Edit: I just want to make it clear that in no way am I trying to be mean, it’s just frustrating as a member of Blackgate that I can’t even play with my own server because other people don’t want to play with theirs.

It isn’t just BG, it’s all large servers. I’m on JQ and i’ve been in overflow for 2 hours, and we haven’t even come close to winning yet.

I’m on SoR, and guess what every time I do Teq I’m on the overflow. Even if you didn’t have guests, there’s a good chance you’d still be in overflow. Stop crying about guests and be a good host.

That just sounds like the BG recruitment for wvw gone wrong … come stack on our server so we can win…. but dont do it in pve :P

Guesting is a feature.

Here’s an idea- transfer to one of the low population servers and ‘show them how it’s done’. With 40-60 randoms and no ts (and that’s prime time).

With the current state of it many servers will not complete it, hence the people guesting in an effort to find somewhere where they have a chance of at least getting it down a bit.

And just as an aside, have you been on Blackgate since day one (you probably have, but quite a few transfered to it months after launch, so just wondering which category you fall into).

There are a lot of people who can’t get into their server on TC.

DarcShriek.5829:

I’m on SoR, and guess what every time I do Teq I’m on the overflow. Even if you didn’t have guests, there’s a good chance you’d still be in overflow. Stop crying about guests and be a good host.

But do you show up last minute? While I wait for Teq I usually end up doing homework or something else with GW2 in the back…after sitting in Sparkfly for 4+ hours, I kinda expect that I would be able to get into my main server.

Lucky.9421:

Guesting is a feature.

Yes. And I believe the feature was mainly intended so that you can still party up and play with friends from other servers:

“Guesting allows you to play with friends on other worlds in the same region without transferring” – GW2 wiki

Corran.4957:

That just sounds like the BG recruitment for wvw gone wrong … come stack on our server so we can win…. but dont do it in pve :P

Except for the fact that you can’t play WvW while guesting…which is why I suggested removing the rewards from world bosses for guests.

erm you do no overflows are SHARED between all region servers… blackgate doesnt get it own. Hell Im currently on overflows with blackgate people when I tried to get in SoR. At least learn the system before spewing crap. I can guarentee you probably could log out and in and get in multiple different overflows because of this.
But yeah, blackgate are so amazing they get their very own overflows… oO

edit:
It the over stacking for wvw = overflows for pve. You do realise that alot of wvw players check out new pve things as well and so this will cause you alot of issues. If you want to be top in one area it causes stacking throughout all parts of the server

Corran.4957:

erm you do no overflows are SHARED between all region servers… blackgate doesnt get it own. Hell Im currently on overflows with blackgate people when I tried to get in SoR. At least learn the system before spewing crap. I can guarentee you probably could log out and in and get in multiple different overflows because of this.
But yeah, blackgate are so amazing they get their very own overflows… oO

Honestly I didn’t know that, but you’re right, they are shared…which makes my point even more valid. I would rather be in my own server that can be coordinated than with tons of people from random servers that are afk or not listening to anyone.

The Eternal Grace.3157:

DarcShriek.5829:

I’m on SoR, and guess what every time I do Teq I’m on the overflow. Even if you didn’t have guests, there’s a good chance you’d still be in overflow. Stop crying about guests and be a good host.

Because I am disappointed that I can’t play with my own server makes me crying? You’re right, there probably is an overflow on all of the high-populated servers, but at least there likely isn’t multiple. I can’t almost guarantee Blackgate has at least 3-4+.

Almost guarantee = I have no proof.

No, being disappointed isn’t what makes you a cryer, it’s coming on the forums and complaining about it that does. Especially, when it’s not the guesting that’s causing it because other servers are having the same issues.

Happens on TC too. Impossible to play on there right now.

It should auto boot people not on their home server into the overflows once the max has been reached.

Let them pay for transfers (good money for you A-net).

Lucky.9421:

Guesting is a feature.

Point being?

lol big plus one to Corrin, exactly what I was thinking.

DarcShriek.5829:

The Eternal Grace.3157:

DarcShriek.5829:

I’m on SoR, and guess what every time I do Teq I’m on the overflow. Even if you didn’t have guests, there’s a good chance you’d still be in overflow. Stop crying about guests and be a good host.

Because I am disappointed that I can’t play with my own server makes me crying? You’re right, there probably is an overflow on all of the high-populated servers, but at least there likely isn’t multiple. I can’t almost guarantee Blackgate has at least 3-4+.

Almost guarantee = I have no proof.

No, being disappointed isn’t what makes you a cryer, it’s coming on the forums and complaining about it that does. Especially, when it’s not the guesting that’s causing it because other servers are having the same issues.

I edited my post, btw….

But, so instead of being a suck-up to Anet and not tell them what I actually think about their content makes me a cryer? I like this game, but just because I don’t think every idea they have is perfect doesn’t make me a cryer. It means I’m afraid to say what I think about their game and how I think it can be improved. Stop trolling and stop being such a fanboy and take a look at the game…it’s because of people like you that the game is in the state that it is right now.

Also, as I said earlier, maybe other high-population servers are getting put into overflow as well, but I would expect faster than 4+ hours of waiting in an overflow. It’s ridiculous.

It would be nice if citizens of a specific world were given priority for slots in events on their own world, and not be shoved to overflow due to guesting.

I would take it a step further and say that if I were prioritizing access I would give the next slot to anyone guesting from the lowest populated world.

Sorry, but I don’t agree with this. 90% of the people on my server need to learn to play. Literally, I can’t issue one simple order without 100+ people going, “der, duh, waht am I spposed to do nao?” Don’t get me started on the people that take control of the turrets. We get afk people, we get people that only use the buffs of the turret on themselves, and last time we got two people that literally wanted to play “Water fight” with the turrets. They aimed only at each other for the entire Teq fight.

Yet I guest to Blackgate and everyone is organized and most people listen when I tell them they need to do something. I think I picked the 10 year old server by accident. Do not make me spend another Teq fight in my server, because I will explode. It’s good that some servers are getting all the attention anyway. More people = more chance of success for that server.

Nalora.7964:

It would be nice if citizens of a specific world were given priority for slots in events on their own world, and not be shoved to overflow due to guesting.

I would take it a step further and say that if I were prioritizing access I would give the next slot to anyone guesting from the lowest populated world.

True, because if people are going to use the feature what it’s really meant for (grouping with friends), then there’s no reason their friends couldn’t meet them in an overflow.

why don’t you just guest to a lower tier server and complete it there, why don’t you do the karka queen while you’re at it because it hasn’t even been cared for a couple days after the karka queen hype.

all the t1 server overflows should get you enough ppl and we’ll have lower tier servers complaining that they can’t get in their servers zone because of all the t1 guesting due to lower tier guesting to them.

Galtrix.7369:

Sorry, but I don’t agree with this. 90% of the people on my server need to learn to play. Literally, I can’t issue one simple order without 100+ people going, “der, duh, waht am I spposed to do nao?” Don’t get me started on the people that take control of the turrets. We get afk people, we get people that only use the buffs of the turret on themselves, and last time we got two people that literally wanted to play “Water fight” with the turrets. They aimed only at each other for the entire Teq fight.

Yet I guest to Blackgate and everyone is organized and most people listen when I tell them they need to do something. I think I picked the 10 year old server by accident. Do not make me spend another Teq fight in my server, because I will explode. It’s good that some servers are getting all the attention anyway. More people = more chance of success for that server.

Not trying to be a jerk, but then transfer to Blackgate. Just because our members listen and organize better than other servers doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to play with mine. If people who will listen and coordinate care enough, they’ll transfer, then it separates the people who care enough from the people who don’t.

Man, let’s be sincere here. You’re just mad because you haven’t been able to beat Tequatl.

Asking ANET to remove or limit a feature that has been there for so long would hit their reputation pretty hard. Now, it’s not only the guests on your server, even if there were no guests, you’d probably end in an overflow as well.

Deal with it. Patience is key.

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Man, let’s be sincere here. You’re just mad because you haven’t been able to beat Tequatl.

Asking ANET to remove or limit a feature that has been there for so long would hit their reputation pretty hard. Now, it’s not only the guests on your server, even if there were no guests, you’d probably end in an overflow as well.

Deal with it. Patience is key.

You’re right, I haven’t been able to beat him yet because I am apart from MY server. I am not the only one annoyed with this. It’s a problem. Instead of being able to beat him with my server, I am stuck in overflow with afkers and people who either don’t listen or don’t know what they’re doing from other servers.

Again, you’re right, maybe I would end up in an overflow, but I probably wouldn’t be stuck in one all day with no prompt to enter the main.

Edit: grammatical error

So if guesting wasnt allowed and people were put into overflow because a server population was so high. How is it decided who should be on the main? Achievement Points? Age? If you have a legendary?

I’m with BG. This is all I get……

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Man, let’s be sincere here. You’re just mad because you haven’t been able to beat Tequatl.

Asking ANET to remove or limit a feature that has been there for so long would hit their reputation pretty hard. Now, it’s not only the guests on your server, even if there were no guests, you’d probably end in an overflow as well.

Deal with it. Patience is key.

Yeah, no kitten people are mad that they’re being deprived access from their own servers because of the guest swarm. Are you saying they shouldn’t be?

The Eternal Grace.3157:

Galtrix.7369:

Sorry, but I don’t agree with this. 90% of the people on my server need to learn to play. Literally, I can’t issue one simple order without 100+ people going, “der, duh, waht am I spposed to do nao?” Don’t get me started on the people that take control of the turrets. We get afk people, we get people that only use the buffs of the turret on themselves, and last time we got two people that literally wanted to play “Water fight” with the turrets. They aimed only at each other for the entire Teq fight.

Yet I guest to Blackgate and everyone is organized and most people listen when I tell them they need to do something. I think I picked the 10 year old server by accident. Do not make me spend another Teq fight in my server, because I will explode. It’s good that some servers are getting all the attention anyway. More people = more chance of success for that server.

Not trying to be a jerk, but then transfer to Blackgate. Just because our members listen and organize better than other servers doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to play with mine. If people who will listen and coordinate care enough, they’ll transfer, then it separates the people who care enough from the people who don’t.

I totally agree. Pay for the transfer or get a lower priority. Seems totally fair to me. What’s not fair is that people on their home servers get booted for people who arn’t even wanting/willing to transfer in, but want to take advantage of what the other server offers.

danielrjones.8759:

So if guesting wasnt allowed and people were put into overflow because a server population was so high. How is it decided who should be on the main? Achievement Points? Age? If you have a legendary?

I never said guesting shouldn’t be allowed. I’m saying guests shouldn’t be able to get world event bosses from a server that isn’t theirs. Either that, or they get kicked from the main server when someone from the actual server wants in, but that’s a little more harsh.

Then, if it’s full from just the server itself, have there be an overflow just like there is now, and prioritize according to arrival time and server. Difference: less queue time to get into the main server because it isn’t being populated by tons of guests.

get booted? So explain how that happens. a guest come in and they boot someone from the home server? lol

danielrjones.8759:

get booted? So explain how that happens. a guest come in and they boot someone from the home server? lol

If a guest is taking up a spot in my home server and I want in, boot the guest to overflow. Like I said, probably not the best way and is rather harsh, but it’s a possibility if they don’t want to get rid of world boss rewards for guests.

The Eternal Grace.3157:

You’re right, I haven’t been able to beat him yet because I am apart from MY server.

You didn’t beat him yet because you didn’t have a chance to get carried by Blackgate’s guilds.

You personally have done nothing, and will do nothing, to earn a victory over Tequatl. So you can wait for your chance to get carried like everyone else.

Aberrant.6749:

It should auto boot people not on their home server into the overflows once the max has been reached.

Let them pay for transfers (good money for you A-net).

Please? I picked TC, I wanna play on my home server, overflows are good for farming and nothing else.

Fungalfoot.7213:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Man, let’s be sincere here. You’re just mad because you haven’t been able to beat Tequatl.

Asking ANET to remove or limit a feature that has been there for so long would hit their reputation pretty hard. Now, it’s not only the guests on your server, even if there were no guests, you’d probably end in an overflow as well.

Deal with it. Patience is key.

Yeah, no kitten people are mad that they’re being deprived access from their own servers because of the guest swarm. Are you saying they shouldn’t be?

Yes!
If you arrive late to something, it’s obvious you won’t enjoy the same benefits that those who came early. And blaming it on the guesting feature won’t solve anything. You would be in the same position either way.
This feature is also permanent, so you have all the time in the world to do it.

Leablo.2651:

The Eternal Grace.3157:

You’re right, I haven’t been able to beat him yet because I am apart from MY server.

You didn’t beat him yet because you didn’t have a chance to get carried by Blackgate’s guilds.

You personally have done nothing, and will do nothing, to earn a victory over Tequatl. So you can wait for your chance to get carried like everyone else.

What do you mean? So because I’m not a part of every guild in Blackgate I get carried? No, I am a part of a Blackgate guild, and I do my part. I show up on teamspeak, I listen, and, most importantly, I am a MEMBER of Blackgate and their (and technically my) community.

Your point is like trying to argue that because I am not able to solo Teq or do it with afk people or people who don’t listen/understand means I don’t carry the weight to fight with my own server. You’re essentially saying that no one on Blackgate (even the ones that beat him…twice) don’t deserve it because they’re getting carried by everyone else.

/facepalm

What does guesting have to do with guaranteeing your spot? I’m on SF and I have yet to try teq in a non-overflow from day 1. You do know you have many more people on YOUR OWN SERVER then each zone can hold right?

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Fungalfoot.7213:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Man, let’s be sincere here. You’re just mad because you haven’t been able to beat Tequatl.

Asking ANET to remove or limit a feature that has been there for so long would hit their reputation pretty hard. Now, it’s not only the guests on your server, even if there were no guests, you’d probably end in an overflow as well.

Deal with it. Patience is key.

Yeah, no kitten people are mad that they’re being deprived access from their own servers because of the guest swarm. Are you saying they shouldn’t be?

Yes!
If you arrive late to something, it’s obvious you won’t enjoy the same benefits that those who came early. And blaming it on the guesting feature won’t solve anything. You would be in the same position either way.
This feature is also permanent, so you have all the time in the world to do it.

This again, I can say is invalid. There was an update recently…maybe 20-30 minutes ago? As soon as I updated, I loaded in only to find myself in an overflow. So now I am waiting just as long as everyone else in the main server, except unable to play with my home world and community.

Topher.1684:

What does guesting have to do with guaranteeing your spot? I’m on SF and I have yet to try teq in a non-overflow from day 1. You do know you have many more people on YOUR OWN SERVER then each zone can hold right?

Quote once where I said guaranteeing a place for me…please. If you would read, I’ve said most of the difference would do is lower queue times for people trying to get into their home server…not to mention, (randomly picking numbers) if there are 50 guests and 100 home server players left in overflow, that means 50 of those home server players would get a spot. That makes a difference. 50 players are happier and everyone has lower queue times.

Sadly, some servers are simply better than others. Nothing will change that.

Shelledfade.6435:

Sadly, some servers are simply better than others. Nothing will change that.

Unless they get rid of servers for PvE purposes and just go to the (in my opinion, superior) district system that GW1 had.

The Eternal Grace.3157:

Topher.1684:

What does guesting have to do with guaranteeing your spot? I’m on SF and I have yet to try teq in a non-overflow from day 1. You do know you have many more people on YOUR OWN SERVER then each zone can hold right?

Quote once where I said guaranteeing a place for me…please. If you would read, I’ve said most of the difference would do is lower queue times for people trying to get into their home server…not to mention, (randomly picking numbers) if there are 50 guests and 100 home server players left in overflow, that means 50 of those home server players would get a spot. That makes a difference. 50 players are happier and everyone has lower queue times.

“Home server” players have priority over guesting with regards to overflow ques (search function is not working, else I would provide the thread with a dev response to this). I wasn’t directing the “guarantee” part at you, as their are others posting in this thread. If I had been talking to you, I would have used @ or quoted something you said. Try not to take everything personally. For the next while, if you are placed in overflow and Teq is about to spawn, you will most likely not get it. The best thing you could do is to find someone in your home instance, join their party and hope you can join that way by spamming “Join their instance” (or whatever it’s called).

You mentioned that you were placed in Overflow after the recent Update. That sucks, but at the same time, your “Home Instance” is probably full of other BGters, not Guests…

Teq is the new thing in this game, everyone wants to participate, and since your server is one of the few that have completed it, your whole server (those interested anyway) is going to be trying to get in on the action. The BG server is Very High/Full server. You guys get qs for everything. If this is your first time experiencing it, I wouldn’t suggest trying to WvW during prime time.

TL,DR Please don’t cry on the forums cuz your server is full of people wanted to do the ‘new’ world boss.

The Eternal Grace.3157:

Shelledfade.6435:

Sadly, some servers are simply better than others. Nothing will change that.

Unless they get rid of servers for PvE purposes and just go to the (in my opinion, superior) district system that GW1 had.

Sorry double post…

But I cannot support this idea enough. This overflow idea of theirs is horrible.

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Yes!
If you arrive late to something, it’s obvious you won’t enjoy the same benefits that those who came early. And blaming it on the guesting feature won’t solve anything. You would be in the same position either way.
This feature is also permanent, so you have all the time in the world to do it.

I was on all day with my guild struggling to take down Teq. When it finally looked like we were about to manage to down him I got booted along with a bunch of other server natives. We got deprived of the kill and a lot of us still haven’t been able to gain access to our server since everybody is now swarming to it.

And you seriously mean to tell me that this is how things should be? That this makes for an enjoyable gameplay experience?

Topher.1684:

TL,DR Please don’t cry on the forums cuz your server is full of people wanted to do the ‘new’ world boss.

I have the right to tell Anet and get support for things that I don’t believe is right in their game. Just because I’m not afraid to say what I want or hope for doesn’t mean I’m crying. If everything is perfect in Guild Wars 2, please get off the forums and play your perfect game, because you’re definitely not on here to point out a flaw in the game if you think everyone who does is crying.

Fungalfoot.7213:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Yes!
If you arrive late to something, it’s obvious you won’t enjoy the same benefits that those who came early. And blaming it on the guesting feature won’t solve anything. You would be in the same position either way.
This feature is also permanent, so you have all the time in the world to do it.

I was on all day with my guild struggling to take down Teq. When it finally looked like we were about to manage to down him I got booted along with a bunch of other server natives. We got deprived of the kill and a lot of us still haven’t been able to gain access to our server since everybody is now swarming to it.

And you seriously mean to tell me that this is how things should be? That this makes for an enjoyable gameplay experience?

That’s a good point as well. Just because someone gets into the main server over you doesn’t mean they’ve been waiting longer…dc happens way too often in this game.

The Eternal Grace.3157:

Topher.1684:

TL,DR Please don’t cry on the forums cuz your server is full of people wanted to do the ‘new’ world boss.

I have the right to tell Anet and get support for things that I don’t believe is right in their game. Just because I’m not afraid to say what I want or hope for doesn’t mean I’m crying. If everything is perfect in Guild Wars 2, please get off the forums and play your perfect game, because you’re definitely not on here to point out a flaw in the game if you think everyone who does is crying.

You absolutely have the right to post what you think it right. Just as other have the right to post when they think you are wrong. If you would read, I never once posted about what I think the state of the game is. If you have a suggestion, I would post it in the appropriate forum.

The Eternal Grace.3157:

/sarcasm

Seems that a lot of people are guesting to BG just because we beat him (first), and it’s rather annoying to me that, as a Blackgate member, I’m always stuck in the overflow.

Sorry, but I really think something needs to be done about this; it’s bad for both Blackgate and their original server. Tequatl doesn’t need a nerf, other servers just actually need to work together and stop server jumping just to improve your chances.

Suggestion: Make world boss rewards unavailable unless you complete it on your server.

I don’t want to be stuck in overflow with a lower population, mostly made up of afkers and people who plain just don’t listen (and sit on the floor dead), while people from other servers are taking up spots to “leech” off of our success/coordination instead of working to help their own server.

Edit: I just want to make it clear that in no way am I trying to be mean, it’s just frustrating as a member of Blackgate that I can’t even play with my own server because other people don’t want to play with theirs.

Baseless accusations. You have no way of knowing if your own server is full of BGters or Guests. This comes off as pure Elitism, plain and simple. Others (on your server) did the hard work, and now you are upset because the rest of your server wants to “leech” off THEIR success.

Do most of you realise you would likely still end up in an overflow regardless of whether or not people were guesting on your servers? That is part of the price you pay for being on a stacked server. Most of the people in the main instances have been camped there for several hours to ensure they don’t lose their spots. You will only get in if you sneak in after a reset or camp there overnight.

Basket of Boxes.1976:

Do most of you realise you would likely still end up in an overflow regardless of whether or not people were guesting on your servers? That is part of the price you pay for being on a stacked server. Most of the people in the main instances have been camped there for several hours to ensure they don’t lose their spots. You will only get in if you sneak in after a reset or camp there overnight.

If you read through a few of the posts…I mentioned this. However, there would be:

A) Less people unhappy that they couldn’t get in
B) More people able to play with their community (Kinda goes with A)
C) Lower queue time for people who want to get in on their home server

Basket of Boxes.1976:

Do most of you realise you would likely still end up in an overflow regardless of whether or not people were guesting on your servers? That is part of the price you pay for being on a stacked server. Most of the people in the main instances have been camped there for several hours to ensure they don’t lose their spots. You will only get in if you sneak in after a reset or camp there overnight.

Yes, but not as many people would get shoved in overflow. No one is saying there wouldn’t still be people being put into overflow… but the problem wouldn’t be nearly as bad as it is.

Go help your OWN server defeat him instead. Unless you have no server pride? In that case why not transfer?

All I have to say is it’s ridiculous to see people post how their ‘community’ deserves priority over someone from a different ‘community’. We are all the SAME community! The GW2 community stop complaining about every update that comes out it makes the WHOLE community look like ungrateful crybabies.

and..

We are ALL dealing with the same problems not just you. We all want to beat Tequatl and maybe if you didn’t want people guesting to your server in huge masses you shouldn’t of bragged all about it on the forums.