Krait Alliance? How?!

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Posted by: Lorelei.7809

Lorelei.7809

I thought Krait thought all races were inferior and enslaved any race they came across that they could. Thus, they would not align themselves with any other race or faction of a race.

From the wiki: "These intelligent creatures are vicious and xenophobic, attacking and enslaving all other species on sight. "
“Krait are vicious creatures, completely uninterested in the needs or well-being of others. The krait have never felt threatened by any of the land or other sea-dwelling races. They believe other, lesser races have nothing to offer them, so the krait never bother to communicate with them. Never beaten, they are convinced that they are blessed and elevated: the superior species in the world. The krait will seize whatever they want for themselves — slaves in particular — with a ruthless efficiency. "

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Krait

It makes absolutely zero sense for them to join with the Nightmare Court. And didn’t the Nightmare Court form partly because Cadeyrn wanted to kill krait when they were young? And not let them live to grow older to torment others? So if the Nightmare Court hate the Krait that badly (and probably kill Krait babies), then again, why would this be an alliance?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dream_and_Nightmare

Either explain this in some sort of weird story or get this overwith quickly and pretend it never happened. Unfortunately the fallback would have to be some evil Mesmer controlling both of them.

On a side note: Can we please stop having Sylvari be the evil race? Pleeeease?! And same with Mesmers. After all it was illusion magic that covered the tower…. I am getting tired of my race and profession being the singularly most evil thing in the game besides the dragons from what I am told.

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Posted by: Celestina.2894

Celestina.2894

Keep in mind a lot of lore applies to them before they were, in fact, beaten. Not just beaten, but forced to flee their preferred environments or face extinction only to risk becoming servants of Zhaitan.

At this point, the Krait are on the edge of desperation. Xenophobia and overgrown ego take a back seat when true desperation comes into play.

As for the Court, it’s implied and fairly obvious they are the ones pulling the strings in this alliance.

That being said, how well this all turns out depends entirely on Anet and what they are leading up to.

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Posted by: EverythingXen.1835

EverythingXen.1835

Go to the camp in Kessex where Majory and Kasmeer are standing.

Talk to NPCs. The explanation is there. Well, at least AN explanation is there.

In a nutshell… Krait religion > Krait xenophobia

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Posted by: Aedelric.1287

Aedelric.1287

Scarlet has fake Bloodstone shards and apparently the Krait want them.

The Nightmare Court are just in it for the hell of it.

We have reasons, just not good or acceptable reasons.

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Posted by: Northlander.4619

Northlander.4619

On a side note: Can we please stop having Sylvari be the evil race? Pleeeease?! And same with Mesmers. After all it was illusion magic that covered the tower…. I am getting tired of my race and profession being the singularly most evil thing in the game besides the dragons from what I am told.

I can’t think any major villain mesmers outright. There are a few very significant mesmers on heroic side though. Like Kasmeer and Queen Jennah.

Also Sylvari as evil? I don’t see how they are represented any more evil than others. I can think only Canach, Faolain and Scarlet when it comes to “evil” Sylvari. It could be even argued that Canach is more misguided than evil. There are also good Sylvari in significant roles like Caithe, Trahernia and Sieran.

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Posted by: Frosty and Frosty Law Firm.4981

Frosty and Frosty Law Firm.4981

This is a sect of the Nightmare Court that is allying with them. By-and-large, the krait and Basketball Court still hate each other, as far as I know.

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Posted by: Walhalla.5473

Walhalla.5473

First Cadeyrn wanted to kill all Asura after their first contact with the Asura. ( First contact was Kudu ). He also wanted to kill the Krait children and in both cases where he asked for logic, instead of giving him a logical answer, the firstborn rather quoted the tablet. But the last strwa for him was a discussion with Caithe where she said " You are either firstborn or you are simply sylvari" like he was a second class citizen. THIS was what caused him to leave and establish the Nightmare Court to find their true nature. The Krait thing is not his only reason. But now, Cadeyrn is dead and most NC member don’t care about his motivations.

Second. The Krait allying with another faction is really hard to explain and it could destroy their lore if not handled carefully, but from what i have seen, it could be much worse. If we take a look into the Krait lore ( the full Lore not some things while ignoring the rest ), we see that they are really xenophobic yes, but also highly religious, its even stronger than their xenophobic believes, and they have priests that lead them, the Oratuss. The fact that the Krait don’t have a written language plays right in the hand of the Oratuss, they can change their religious texts to their needs. Lore wise, they have the ability to retcon parts of their religion, and with enough time alter it to such degree that they formed a new religion.
If you can convince the Oratuss to works with you without being killed on sight, well you could have an army of Krait, because no Krait would question the Oratuss.

The problem there ist, how could someone convince the Oratuss to work with outsiders, even with the offer of Obelisk shards? This one has to be answered and this answer could either kill the lore or be completely good with it.

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Posted by: Lorelei.7809

Lorelei.7809

Thank you so much for that in-depth answer Walhalla! But, in essence, it is that their religion is more dominant than their xenophobia.

I hope they do answer that question well, then.

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Posted by: Sindex.9520

Sindex.9520

I hope they do answer that question well, then.

Going by what they pulled in the past, unless it’s convenient for them to so then they won’t. It’s interesting how we come up with theories so we can cover up these massive plot holes. Only for A-net to twist what we thought happen and latter come up with something verily underdeveloped.

According to one developer from the recent Halloween Lore live stream he states that it’s easier to leave things open for interpretation then finishing something. The speculation just keep people interested. My guess he got his inspiration from JJ Abrams mystery box lecture . Basically all those hints about Cantha is just to keep you engaged and does not mean that it will ever appear again. Or the Wizards Tower in Kessex Hills meant to be the ultimate teaser, but probably never to be delivered on. Or filling in the (plot) hole over the Great Collapse.

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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

Dondagora.9645

I thought Krait thought all races were inferior and enslaved any race they came across that they could. Thus, they would not align themselves with any other race or faction of a race.

From the wiki: "These intelligent creatures are vicious and xenophobic, attacking and enslaving all other species on sight. "
“Krait are vicious creatures, completely uninterested in the needs or well-being of others. The krait have never felt threatened by any of the land or other sea-dwelling races. They believe other, lesser races have nothing to offer them, so the krait never bother to communicate with them. Never beaten, they are convinced that they are blessed and elevated: the superior species in the world. The krait will seize whatever they want for themselves — slaves in particular — with a ruthless efficiency. "

That part, “They believe other, lesser races have nothing to offer them, so the krait never bother to communicate with them.” The Court, because of Scarlet, now have something the Krait actually want, so it doesn’t actually conflict with that piece since they covered the reason why the xenophobes have decided to cooperate.

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Posted by: Smooth Penguin.5294

Smooth Penguin.5294

Thank you so much for that in-depth answer Walhalla! But, in essence, it is that their religion is more dominant than their xenophobia.

I hope they do answer that question well, then.

If you played the Living Story, and read all the dialogue, you’d get an assumed answer to your questions.

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Posted by: Neilos Tyrhanos.5427

Neilos Tyrhanos.5427

On a side note: Can we please stop having Sylvari be the evil race? Pleeeease?! And same with Mesmers. After all it was illusion magic that covered the tower…. I am getting tired of my race and profession being the singularly most evil thing in the game besides the dragons from what I am told.

Hey, hey, hey. In Prophecies, it was us poor Ascalonian Necromancers who got it bad. After the Searing, both Verata and Oberan the Reviled turned evil (not to mention the Lich).

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Posted by: Diremongoose.1326

Diremongoose.1326

Have you guys seen the white otherworldly ‘toxic’ portals?

My theory is that Scarlet is recruiting from outside the ‘canon’ version of Tyria for her alliances. Perhaps even from the mists themselves via a process similar to Dessa’s fractal creation? If that was the case, Scarlet’s minions would have a vested interest staying in our world, rather than being destroyed.

Thoughts?