Guild Wars 2

Hello, we have tried to complete the “Above and Beyond” achievement. I swear that we havent missed a single event but for some reason we didnt get it. The only thing that might have messed the achievement is that almost at the end someone in the group went link dead and rejoined as soon as he could. Anyone have been able to complete this achievement or have gotten the same problem?

Today I had an issue with this achievement too.
We did all optional events. One of us for the first time. So we could track if a event failed.
- Lionguerds survived (with Turma not falling below 75%)
- Officer was killed
- Secret room was entered and the boss defeated
- EMP grenates used on each ship
- All 5 chests have been opened

The chests have been opened each by a different person. Once this was done the timer disappeared but noone got the reward. We continued to open the other chests and made it in time (taking into account the time before it disappeared)

We had the issue until we realized that there is one to follow Caithe right after the boss dies(its timed so you basically have to follow her) because she does a little talking and the door to the room to do her optional part is timed.

But to make it easy, after the boss dies stay by caithe and she will keep talking. In the amount of time she spent talking the captain that is trying to escape will have made his way down.

So :
-Kill the escaping captain when he reaches the door leaving the boss room.
-Follow caithe up the ramp to the little door where you get Scarlets secret room achieve.( be warned this part IS timed and everyone will need to walk into the room together)
-Interact with the suggestion box and kill the vet that spawns. The door will then open and you are free to leave to do the other optionals.
-Have 4 of the 5 members jump down to help the lionguard(most should still be alive)
-1 member starts doing the EMP/chests.
-After finishing with the lionguard its fairly easy.

*note- if 1 person has 5 keys, they can open all 5 chests to complete chest optional event to get the AnB achieve for everyone.

@SiLENT
your description does cover everything i have listed.
and I think every lionguard has to be alive (not most)

Oh, my apologies. I skimmed looking for “caithe” not secret room.

Then I don’t know. I guess it bugged? Cause the only thing we did different was that I ran and did all the chests first(before anyone else opened them).

Well the problem solved, today I did the same thing and it worked fine.

This achievement is almost impossibly hard to do. Its so difficult to run this entire dungeon with a competent group. To have one Single person leave at the end or fall off the ledge and mess up the achievement for everyone . I’ve tried this path so many times today and beat the boss so many time to have one single person ruin ’Above and Beyond" for EVERYONE! This really needs to be revamped so that a single player alone can finish if they choose.

impossibly hard? its a very easy achievement with plenty of time to spare each time I am in a group who wants to do it.

For a group who wants the end achievements yes! And if they are rushed and split into the areas necessary to complete the tasks. I’ve run this path about 15 times today, spent the whole day. I tried one last group and they didn’t even know there was end achievements. They followed instructions to the key and I managed to complete Above and Beyond finally. The point is, this achievement takes all 5 players coordinated together to get this. I know anet wants us to work together but it gets increasingly difficult when you have to relies on someone else to get it done.

Hopefully this isn’t too off topic, but what is the reward for completing all the TA achievements (17/17)? Wondering if it’s worth bashing my skull against a brick wall to do it. :P

Kaellok.8143:

Hopefully this isn’t too off topic, but what is the reward for completing all the TA achievements (17/17)? Wondering if it’s worth bashing my skull against a brick wall to do it. :P

Mini clockheart; personally when I got this pet I felt it was nowhere near as good as mini liadri… It has no special effects (like Liadri’s mouse over death shroud), looks like gravel (easily blends with the ground and hence hardly noticeable), and cannot enter water.

I THINK the only thing special about it over the mini oakheart is that it makes a rare grunt animation, but I could have been imagining things when I used it.

Yunigen.2897:

Kaellok.8143:

Hopefully this isn’t too off topic, but what is the reward for completing all the TA achievements (17/17)? Wondering if it’s worth bashing my skull against a brick wall to do it. :P

Mini clockheart; personally when I got this pet I felt it was nowhere near as good as mini liadri… It has no special effects (like Liadri’s mouse over death shroud), looks like gravel (easily blends with the ground and hence hardly noticeable), and cannot enter water.

I THINK the only thing special about it over the mini oakheart is that it makes a rare grunt animation, but I could have been imagining things when I used it.

Hmm, might worth doing. I already got 10/17 in one run. Presumably the rest are pretty hard to get.

Kaellok.8143:

Hmm, might worth doing. I already got 10/17 in one run. Presumably the rest are pretty hard to get.

Personally, I felt that “Above and Beyond” is the only legitimately difficult achieve to get; it requires some form of communication before fighting the clockheart, and requires people you can trust to do the post achieves (or at least ones that won’t lie that they’re experienced runners like yourself, if you advertised as such, when your partying with pugs).

“Grounded” is technically hard, but easily solved if you have alts like engies, eles, or guardians which can put invulnerability on themselves (3 secs is enough) to avoid getting shocked.

“Who’s in Charge Here?” is “difficult” because it seems very buggy right now; took me 4 tries to get it, and so far people haven’t laid down hard conditions (if there are any) in getting this achieve.

For this achivement, does everyone in party need to go into the secret room?

Also. the last time we did that, it spawned a champ not vet. Impossible to kill in time to save the lionguards.

If you’re going for Above and Beyond, just send one person to go with Caithe. Well, one person who can fight a veteran clockwork alone.

Except for the protecting the Lion Guard, all the other events can be accomplished by a single player in one run.

NTDK.4897:

For this achivement, does everyone in party need to go into the secret room?

Also. the last time we did that, it spawned a champ not vet. Impossible to kill in time to save the lionguards.

Nope, you only need one person to go inside the secret room to get above and beyond achievement. It might have spawned a champ because all five or so of you entered the room at the same time.

Be sure that 2 ppl go to the lionguards asap, 2 kill the officers and emp the ships, while the last person goes to the room and opens the suggestion box.

The Above and beyond achievement only needs the clockwork dead and the door reopened, and does not need people to even enter the room once its finished; to illustrate, 2 of my partymates when directly to open the 5 chests for the group after killing the aetherblade mobs attacking the lionguards to make sure we had sufficient time to get the achievement.

When I ran the achievement, I found that the Lionguard were more than capable of taking care of themselves.
We killed the Veteran officer -> followed Caithe -> EMP’d ships -> finished off the remaining Aetherblades
Now you should have ~5 minutes left to run after the chests

1 person left after the Clockheart because of urgent issues, and the four of us completed it with no problem.

2 persons went with Caithe, I killed the attacking Aetherblades and 1 person killed the officer and blew up the airships.

We had 6 keys in total, and we had to use all of them: Once a player opens a chest, it doesn’t become unlootable for the other players, so one chest was accidentally looted twice by two different players.

The achievement was gotten immediately after the last chest was opened.

Yunigen.2897:

Kaellok.8143:

Hmm, might worth doing. I already got 10/17 in one run. Presumably the rest are pretty hard to get.

“Grounded” is technically hard, but easily solved if you have alts like engies, eles, or guardians which can put invulnerability on themselves (3 secs is enough) to avoid getting shocked.

Grounded is not hard as long as one of the people in the party has it already or is willing to give up their chance to get it that run or playing one of those classes you mentioned in the party. That person goes around jumping to the platforms with the O then everyone else just safely walks over to the next platform(leaving one behind).

So is it possible for one person to solo the Above and Beyond achievement? I saw someone mentioned that it wasn’t because of the lionguard.

In this order:
KIll Officers
Help Caithe.
Help Lionguard/EMP Ships
Chests.

If done right, you’ll finish early. It’s really easy.

For me, the technique that worked was this:

1. Split the party into two teams. One group will go down to defend the Lionguard, the other will follow Caithe. Anybody who needs “What does she know?” or “Clockwork Destroyer” should follow Caithe.

2a. Lionguard defense drops down, fights Aetherblades. The Aetherblades are all normal mobs except for one Veteran at the end, so it’s really not hard at all to keep the Lionguard alive. Turma probably won’t even get in combat at all if you aggro the Aetherblades early. 1 Staff Ele can probably do this all by himself, plus he can switch to Water to heal up any Lionguards that get injured.

2b. People following Caithe kill the Aetherblade officer. He’s a normal Vet and doesn’t attack, so just snare and pile on the damage. After that, follow Caithe to the secret room and enter. Once inside, open the Suggestion Box and kill the Clockwork Horror that spawns for the achievement.

3. The people who followed Caithe now do the EMP achievement by running back to the box in the Clockheart group, grabbing one grenade, then running up the ramps to use the grenades on the 3 ships.

4. If done right, you should have about 5 – 6 mins left. This is more than enough time for people with Aether keys to go and unlock the chests. If you are after the Pirate Booty achievement, take note that you need to unlock all 5 unique chests to get it (they don’t all need to be opened on the same run, however).