Guild Wars 2

Fortnight updates are perfectly fine, I don’t think that if they have twice more time they’ll suddenly put all lore in game instead of the nonsense we have as plot and those briefings as dialogues site, make more challenging and fun content, check bugs and so on.
Let’s just pray for expansion.

Vol.5241:

“Please we want less content”

I’m sure they can cut some more dungeon paths, that seems to be a big winner here today

It’s crazy post like this that makes me love reading the forums >.< The living story and it’s update pace is part of what is keeping GW2 flowing and exciting for a lot of people. I mean there is something fun to do every other Tuesday! I don’t think quality really suffers as the kinds of bugs that are happening are the same kinds of things that were happening before they went with that pace. With the exception of the awful world two water sprout bug, they didn’t have a major impact on game play either.

Keep doing what you’re doing Anet

Like Honest Abe once said: ’“You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time.”

So it’s useless to try.

Free content every 2 weeks and you don’t want it? No one is forcing you to participate. I tried Teq a couple times during the last update and guess what: lost interest. Did other things. Really looking forward to the new TA path. I’m in the minority that enjoys that dungeon’s flavor and what is has to offer. The nice thing is, these updates seem to be sticking around.

More permanent content is the answer. Not less content.

I like the pace, but that is mostly due to the fact that I’m not an achievement point junky. I have skipped sab and a few other updates because they didn’t match my play style hence no ap’s for them. If I do see something I like though I’m all over it and it don’t feel like a full time job; then again I never cared to compete with others over arbitrary goals, just to have “fun”.

I also dont like the 2 weekly updates

… dont feels like a “living” story to me somehow – more like a quick quick I have to do that if I want the reward – oh no rl happens and now the event is over….

but thats just my feeling and I am happy for everyone who likes it

People are so kitten simple minded. If they don’t like something about a feature or content, they want it removed entirely. If they don’t like content, they don’t want as much content. Never “please improve upon these specific points” in a constructive feedback kind of way.

I would rather have less updates/new content in favour of a better job done with in-game bugs, glitches, etc.
I understand that part of the community is in fact very eager to ‘devour’ every new thing that comes out (achievements, new things to do, new skins, mini-games, etc.) and I understand that following Anet surveys the large majority of the community wanted to have more than an update a month; however, this rush to throw literally into the game new stuff is starting to be kinda annoying if not done properly, which means:
1- no bugs;
2- original content.

I suggest another survey to see if, in fact, the (PvE) community is happy about where this is going.

Vol.5241:

“Please we want less content”

What quality content have we been given? Honestly I can’t think of anything of quality other than Tequatl, FotM, or the wallet that we’ve been given as a result of living story. I’d much rather see updates less frequent if it means higher quality.

The Eternal Grace.3157:

What quality content have we been given? Honestly I can’t think of anything of quality other than Tequatl, FotM, or the wallet that we’ve been given as a result of living story. I’d much rather see updates less frequent if it means higher quality.

Truly high quality, even bug-free.

haviz.1340:

The Eternal Grace.3157:

What quality content have we been given? Honestly I can’t think of anything of quality other than Tequatl, FotM, or the wallet that we’ve been given as a result of living story. I’d much rather see updates less frequent if it means higher quality.

Truly high quality, even bug-free.

Devil’s advocate time. The pinatas did have a bug in that when you hit them within seconds of another hitting them you would receive no candy. IIRC they patched it within a few days but it was not bug free even for simple content.

Tommyknocker.6089:

Devil’s advocate time. The pinatas did have a bug in that when you hit them within seconds of another hitting them you would receive no candy. IIRC they patched it within a few days but it was not bug free even for simple content.

I should have really start to use /s.

I am in favour of new LS content once a month if it has no new bugs and is of better quality.

haviz.1340:

Tommyknocker.6089:

Devil’s advocate time. The pinatas did have a bug in that when you hit them within seconds of another hitting them you would receive no candy. IIRC they patched it within a few days but it was not bug free even for simple content.

I should have really start to use /s.

I think he knew.

Vol.5241:

“Please we want better content”

Fixed that for you. Enjoy!

Jamais vu.5284:

haviz.1340:

Tommyknocker.6089:

Devil’s advocate time. The pinatas did have a bug in that when you hit them within seconds of another hitting them you would receive no candy. IIRC they patched it within a few days but it was not bug free even for simple content.

I should have really start to use /s.

I think he knew.

He did.

It’s not that I want less content, I just want them to be very polished. Right now I think wvw matchup is bugged, and the cloth aqua breather is still bugged for human females. I feel like they aren’t taking their priorities right at the moment.. I know people will disagree, but for me, I’d rather have them improve and fix what we already have than introduce new ones.

haviz.1340:

Tommyknocker.6089:

Devil’s advocate time. The pinatas did have a bug in that when you hit them within seconds of another hitting them you would receive no candy. IIRC they patched it within a few days but it was not bug free even for simple content.

I should have really start to use /s.

Hah…yeah…the pinatas and fireworks were horrible -.-

I think bi-weeklies are fine but they need a proper release cycle or slam more testers at it within the limited time frame.

Right now I would assume they have teams staggered and offset working for a month on each biweekly release (so one team starts beginning of the month the other mid month) and they are dedicated to that bi-weekly so really they are working a months worth of time but releasing every two weeks.

What I think they should do is keep that format but have a team working 2/3 month development cycle, slot the bigger ticket items in there that would require the time frame to test properly and have a release schedule merge with the two week content on that.

That means you scope what really takes a month to do in the biweekly, you can scope what might take more on the 2/3 month, you can even offset if you need more time (dependent on whether it plays a part in the living story schedule or not) your pain point would be your code merge but hopefully the offset would allow for the option of moving stuff that needs more time into its proper place. We would never see the difference as all content would come bi-weekly but we would get a big bang in longer periods and maybe more quality.

If the resources are there you can even do a 6/12 month cycle. Again this all takes resourcing pressure to have it done right so its speculation.

*edit, i think they probably have more time then a month because if i remember right there were three teams, so the offset is a little greater

I kind of agree. I like the updates, even with my limited time to play as it keeps the game kind of interesting. But I would really like it if they took a step back for a bit and fixed and polished some other stuff.

If this would have been a promise at the beginning of GW2, that we would receive a two week update spam, with press F scavenger hunts, zerg trains, and RNG I would have probably not picked up the game or quit after a couple of months of play due to this pointless saturation of weak content just to keep people coming back and checking the gem shop. However there was that pleasant lull from launch until they really cranked up content spam so I became fairly invested in the game around that time.

The game needs more work and polish, we just got a nice wallet system not that long ago and now we have a LFG tool that’s in beta.

Put that LFG research on hold we must make sure everyone hasn’t forgotten what’s-her-face and the herpblades guys!

… September was so nice.

Don’t get wrong i like some of the stuff we get, I really can’t wait to try out the new dungeon path today. I’m not a fan of how it was executed but hey it’s still something new and permanent.

But cool it on the updates please, it’s like going to a Buffet it’s just all you can eat mediocre food.

I too am getting fed up with the bi weekly contents, I can barely keep up with it!

Yes I am full away they are not making me playing the new events but since there are achievements involve which all add up getting the next Achievement chests you get the idea but hey it’s all about earning what you reap right?

Yeah it sound like a vicious cycle to me…

Tiger.7506:

Fixed that for you. Enjoy

Except, you didn’t. I don’t play only 1 hour a year. I play more than 1 hour a week, or even 1 hour a day. I just want better content. I want the two-week cycle to be recognized for what it is: a failure of policy. They’re feeling contrived, forced, and dull. We want better content, not more content. Not because we don’t play often, but because we want it to be worth playing when we get it.

Absence makes the heart grow founder. Familiarity breeds contempt. The two-week cycle exemplifies how true these are.

I agree with the OP but this issue seems to be 50%/50% between the community.

50% of players who live in their parents basement who like these updates because they have nothing else to do.

50% of players with a real life and school/mortgage/family and they don’t have 16 hours a day to play and grind contents.

So at this state of the game, the flood of LS temp weekly contents will continue which is also helps sales in gems store.

My solution to this problem was to finally come in peace with the game and treat it no more than any other game and understand the fact that I cannot keep up with the stuff.

GW2 is still a special game to me and I enjoy every minute playing it since I have put the LS stuff to rest and don’t even bother looking at the LS achievement panel.

I dunno about you, but I enjoy broken and buggy content at a rapid pace!

I actually do want less content if it means it’s done well, tested thoroughly and genuinely interesting, which the living story has not been.

This topics resurface every now and then… and is completely wrong at its base. New content is not made every two week, they are “released” every two weeks.

They said that there are many teams (I’m guessing at least 4) that work for at least two months on each release, and they are synced so the deadline for each team is two weeks from the previous team. That means that the team that released today will work on December content.

The content seems lackluster? The lore is too shallow or nonexistent? That is not the fault of the two weeks cycle, it is the “fault” of designers given that the overall history was defined long time ago. And i can tell you that GW2 is more charged with in-game lore than many MMOs out there. Granted, LS lore is poorly delivered.

There are many bug on each release? That is the conundrum in Software Development: release early and fix, or fix and release late? Guess which is the winning strategy (hint: those that release late never win). Defects are a reality in any software as complex as an MMO, and they plan for it: did you ever wonder why they release patches on Tuesday? that gives them Monday to prepare the release, and 3 days to fix as many defects as possible before the weekend prime time. True, they could do with a tighter QA process.

All in all, so far ANET is doing ok and have shown that they learn from their mistake. Let’s give them some time with this release cycle for they to tune up their production line.

Soronthar.7236:

This topics resurface every now and then… and is completely wrong at its base. New content is not made every two week, they are “released” every two weeks.

They said that there are many teams (I’m guessing at least 4) that work for at least two months on each release, and they are synced so the deadline for each team is two weeks from the previous team. That means that the team that released today will work on December content.

That’s all nice and well, and The last two patches have been an improvement on the content, but all of 2013 had issues and flaws, imo moreso then the early releases.

Like many here I would prefer one monthly release that is rock solid instead two that are shaky.

Your summary of their design process is right, but that doesnt change anything. That they worked on all these summer releases for two or more months each doesnt really matter, the results were shaky and could’ve used a couple more weeks of work. That doesnt apply only two one or two of the patches but pretty much ALL of them. So take that extra time, Anet. One solid release per month is still far ahead of any competition and will guarantee you happier customers that will throw money your way for years and their word of mouth will bring more box sales.

P.S. If you do that and find you have a leftover team with nothing to do, I and probably many other players would like you to get back to increasing DE density and adding mini-dungeons to all outdoor zones as you planned to a year ago.

“Please stop giving us free fun, we dont like it for some reason”

I will never undertand humans >__>

Alissah.9281:

“Please stop giving us free fun, we dont like it for some reason”

I will never undertand humans >__>

Good thing you aren’t one, huh?

Alissah.9281:

“Please stop giving us free fun, we dont like it for some reason”

I will never undertand humans >__>

Running around 3 different maps to find 10 different randomly placed scales/teeth to press the F key at is fun? So you must have liked the Pinatas, effigies, balloons, keepsakes, and beacons hunts. There’s probably more but I can’t remember them but I think i made my point that rehashing F hunts is fun?

MastaNeenja.1537:

Alissah.9281:

“Please stop giving us free fun, we dont like it for some reason”

I will never undertand humans >__>

Running around 3 different maps to find 10 different randomly placed scales/teeth to press the F key at is fun? So you must have liked the Pinatas, effigies, balloons, keepsakes, and beacons hunts. There’s probably more but I can’t remember them but I think i made my point that rehashing F hunts is fun?

your point is invalid because youre purposefully ignoring major pieces of content like the tequatl fight and the new dungeon path in a desperate attempt to convince others that the new updates have been all boring fluff.

if you included those in your rhetorical “is it fun?” garbage, you would realize that people are in fact having fun with these bi-weekly updates.

DukeLekitten.1640:

MastaNeenja.1537:

Alissah.9281:

“Please stop giving us free fun, we dont like it for some reason”

I will never undertand humans >__>

Running around 3 different maps to find 10 different randomly placed scales/teeth to press the F key at is fun? So you must have liked the Pinatas, effigies, balloons, keepsakes, and beacons hunts. There’s probably more but I can’t remember them but I think i made my point that rehashing F hunts is fun?

your point is invalid because youre purposefully ignoring major pieces of content like the tequatl fight and the new dungeon path in a desperate attempt to convince others that the new updates have been all boring fluff.

if you included those in your rhetorical “is it fun?” garbage, you would realize that people are in fact having fun with these bi-weekly updates.

I made many points if you’d care to scroll up that was just the latest one. You’re defending rehashes too, good job stay easily amused.

I liked the Teq revamp
I haven’t tried the new dungeon but I am optimistic about it
I liked the wallet, the LFG tool, and other mini games such as South Sun Survival

What I don’t like is the same thing every two weeks with a fresh coat of paint being passed off as new content. I choose quality over quantity any day.

The updates now are so buggy, the game’s not worth playing on patch day!
I want deeper long term content, not a reward for a to-do-list.

Sola.7250:

I want deeper long term content, not a reward for a to-do-list.

You took what i was trying to say and summed it up in once short sentence, thank you