Guild Wars 2

So you didn’t do Tequatl and you are already dismissing the new TA path without even knowing how it will be? I would like to know your definition of “epic.”

’mmm ’kay.

The coming update certainly isn’t epic, but eh, it’s free

Wait, you are complaining that they introduce too many festival updates and then calling two permanent content updates lackluster? what?
And not to mention that that is just your opinion. most people loved the tequatl update (if tequatl is not epic i dont know what is), granted, it can be made even better, but it’s a great fight. And just the fact that you are calling an update that isn’t even live yet “lackluster” removes all credibility.

Updates so far: F&F: Razing, SAB W1, Secret of Southsun, Last Stand at Southsun, Dragon Bash, Sky Pirates, Bazaar of the Four Winds, Cutthroat Politics, Queen’s Jubilee, Clockwork Chaos, SAB W2, Tequatl Rising, Twilight Assault.

Out of all of these updates, only 3 are festival (Dragon Bash, Bazaar, and Queen’s Jubilee). Sure they occur for a month but that is for people who want to take it slow to acquire achievements and such. Certainly nobody wants to only have two weeks to do it. SAB isn’t even a festival. Like what are you celebrating hmm? I’m sure we will find out the purpose of SAB when the other worlds come out (foreshadow from W3 currently).

As for lackluster patch. For starters you don’t even know everything that is going into the patch. It was stated that some WvW changes (getting wxp stuff from player kills) is going in the next patch. Maybe some balance changes and such this patch too. Who knows since the patch isn’t out. Tequ brought up bloodlust in WvW (big change) along with LFG tool. Previous updates brought champion loot, ascended crafting, and dungeon reward rework just to name a few. Molten Alliance brought very little. In fact one month of F&F update is equal to the 2 week updates we have now in terms of changes and content.

Woah with all the misdirected hate, alright here we go.

@Kaphei
- I did do Tequatl, it was frustrating yet fun. I think they made some really big misses in how that worked out but I love the idea of making things more challenging and thought provoking. Most other updates however have had a variety of new things added to the game, such as activities you can do in whole areas or multiple areas and etc. Tequatl didn’t, it was an event about doing one boss, that’s it. No background was even added to it, it felt more like a big change to one boss they called “an event”.

@Windu
-It’s not proper to think that just cause they’re not charging you for it directly that it’s free. Or even that just because it’s free we shouldn’t expect quality with our product. This game is something I really enjoy and I genuinely get sad at not being able to enjoy it for so long.

@ahuba
-Yes, it is my opinion, what else would it be? I never stated that any of my opinions were facts. This is something however that I care about and wanted to see other people’s opinions on this. All opinions.

@Chew
-As I stated in my original post, the Tequatl update page showed exactly what we’d end up getting. That felt weak but I believed they’d end up doing a sneak content reveal like they did for the Speech, however that didn’t happen. All of this has led me to believe that we’re getting what we’re seeing for this Twilight update – as in not a lot.

@CuRt
-That is exactly why I never actually said “festival”, I said “updates such as festivals, parties, and these festive events”. I said all of that specifically to avoid people saying what you did. I’m not talking about festivals, I’m talking about these party and happy gatherings coming in too frequently as compared to the more core gameplay improvements on the game. That makes the whole game feel more like a social rpg instead of a fantasy one.

We GW2 players are spoiled. Unfortunately, the majority of the fanbase doesn’t realize this and wants anything and everything free, easy and quickly.

It’s true Vol. Anet revamped Tequatl from what was once a cake walk, to something that required skill and coordination. I can respect the fact that some people have had a really hard time doing it. But it wouldn’t be a challenge if there were guaranteed paths to victory.

We’re getting tons of updates for free. It’s giving us stuff to do, whether it be updated bosses, or side adventures like the Super Adventure Box. I’d rather be given small additional content every 2 weeks, than to wait a year for a new massive expansion or similar addon.

The problem with last update, imo, was that they updated something that was already in the game which was suppose to be difficult to begin with. the content updates shouldnt revolve around content that is already in the game which is being fixed to what Anet wanted it to be from the beginning but the content should be new stuff we havent heard of or seen. im not saying they shouldnt work on existing content which lacks fun/difficulty but they shouldnt make it the main content in the updates bc all their doing is fixing their mistakes.

+1 to the OP and Beast Sos.

I guess certain people who rather Anet do nothing for months at a time, instead of offering updates. To each his own.

Somebody give the OP a +1, thank you.

I was expecting a revamp on existing paths in dungeons, but I wouldn’t complain about an additional path to the existing dungeons.

This is awesome content like the Teq one.

A new dungeon added to a game such as this is a hugely important content update. The new dungeon may suck, or it may be the greatest bit of content created for any game ever. You cannot write it off before you even know anything about it.

Youre getting new content patches every 2 weeks with no subscription fee and youre still somehow managing to find something to complain about. A lot of work goes into these patches and youre not going to get what you want every time. Learn to accept that youre not always going to be happy with a content update.

Leben.5647:

A new dungeon added to a game such as this is a hugely important content update. The new dungeon may suck, or it may be the greatest bit of content created for any game ever. You cannot write it off before you even know anything about it.

Youre getting new content patches every 2 weeks with no subscription fee and youre still somehow managing to find something to complain about. A lot of work goes into these patches and youre not going to get what you want every time. Learn to accept that youre not always going to be happy with a content update.

Except it’s not a new dungeon. It’s a new path added to an already existing dungeon. The same dungeon, the same mobs, the same npcs, etc etc, just a new direction to take. And to top it off, they are just giving us reskins of old weapons by adding “glow” effects to them.

So this isn’t really a new content patch. It’s just an update of old content. Just like the last patch. It was just an update to old content.

SpyderArachnid.5619:

So this isn’t really a new content patch. It’s just an update of old content. Just like the last patch. It was just an update to old content.

Which, IMO is badly need to most of the existing content especially open world dynamic events. Adding new stuff is nice. But improving/fixing existing stuff first to make them better before adding new stuff is nicer. But that’s just me.

You do make a point. I feel like I am playing Mario Party sometimes Guild Wars style lol.

Kaphei.7096:

So you didn’t do Tequatl and you are already dismissing the new TA path without even knowing how it will be? I would like to know your definition of “epic.”

’mmm ’kay.

If it involves Scarlet, it is trash but perhaps we can finally kill her and move on to hopefully better story and content.

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Leben.5647:

A new dungeon added to a game such as this is a hugely important content update. The new dungeon may suck, or it may be the greatest bit of content created for any game ever. You cannot write it off before you even know anything about it.

Youre getting new content patches every 2 weeks with no subscription fee and youre still somehow managing to find something to complain about. A lot of work goes into these patches and youre not going to get what you want every time. Learn to accept that youre not always going to be happy with a content update.

Except it’s not a new dungeon. It’s a new path added to an already existing dungeon. The same dungeon, the same mobs, the same npcs, etc etc, just a new direction to take. And to top it off, they are just giving us reskins of old weapons by adding “glow” effects to them.

So this isn’t really a new content patch. It’s just an update of old content. Just like the last patch. It was just an update to old content.

Have you already run this new path? Your speculations are not fact. One of the screenshots did indeed show a brand new enemy.

I can’t kill Tequatl and I don’t run dungeons/fractals so I am inclined to agree with the op.

I’d rather like to see the north or crystal desert or underwater or Cantha and so on and so forth. Something sizable would be nice (even if it’s just a paid expansion). Have been a bit disappointed with the scale of living world so far overall.

zeromius.1604:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Leben.5647:

A new dungeon added to a game such as this is a hugely important content update. The new dungeon may suck, or it may be the greatest bit of content created for any game ever. You cannot write it off before you even know anything about it.

Youre getting new content patches every 2 weeks with no subscription fee and youre still somehow managing to find something to complain about. A lot of work goes into these patches and youre not going to get what you want every time. Learn to accept that youre not always going to be happy with a content update.

Except it’s not a new dungeon. It’s a new path added to an already existing dungeon. The same dungeon, the same mobs, the same npcs, etc etc, just a new direction to take. And to top it off, they are just giving us reskins of old weapons by adding “glow” effects to them.

So this isn’t really a new content patch. It’s just an update of old content. Just like the last patch. It was just an update to old content.

Have you already run this new path? Your speculations are not fact. One of the screenshots did indeed show a brand new enemy.

But again, it is not a brand new dungeon. Sorry, but that is a fact. Not speculation.

Laughable how the OP dismisses content that hasn’t even been made available yet.

Any sensible person would do the following:
1. Wait for new content to be released.
2. Play said content.
3. Create an opinion on the experiences as gathered while playing said content.

I wouldn’t call either LFG or Tequatl lackluster. The next update will probably come with the kick off for WvW season 1 which shouldn’t be called lackluster either.

I personally am really looking forward to the halloweon festival, Mad kings dungeon and labyrinth were great. Also, the xmas festival was very good too.

Just because some people don’t enjoy content like this it doesn’t mean it’s lackluster. I for one am exited about this update because:

A: I love doing dungeons, I run multiple paths every day because I enjoy it.
B: Twilight Arbor has been my favourite dungeon ever since launch, I’ve done it hundreds of times yet I still want to do it again.
C: Scarlet is a good villain in my opinion. I like her twisted mentality and quirky humour.
D: Aetherblades and Molten alliance mobs are a nice change from your average dungeon mobs because you might actually need some extra condition removal or stunbreakers against them.

Also do note that so far PvE players get content every two weeks whereas sPvP and WvW players get shafted and end up getting pretty much nothing compared to the PvE crowd.

I agree that the Tequatl and Twilight Assault releases look a bit thinner than the ones we had before but i dont think its a bad thing.

My guess would be that around this time, or during the last 2 months when they actually worked on the content that is realeased now, they might have had an over-proportionate part of their staff on holidays.

Elbegast.6970:

I can’t kill Tequatl and I don’t run dungeons/fractals so I am inclined to agree with the op.

I don’t read your posts but I’m inclined to disagree

A new dungeon path is something. Just sayin’.

I thought clockwork chaos was a fantastic update! however the SAB,teq rising and twilight assault updates seem lackluster in comparison.

Im hoping the reason for the thinner content is that more resources are being allocated to something big like giving us the crystal desert or a new class or something.

Absolutely agreed on the poor nature of recent living story content. And if I had to point mmy finger on a reason it’s rare drops. I’ve always hated it when mmos make all the decent items ludicrously hard to find. one of my favorite features of guild wars 2 was the token system whereby you could garantee being able to get what you wanted if you collected enough. lately though more and more rare drop skins have been showing up. I’ve still yet to see a single champion weapon skin drop, even with having farmed extensivly in both Queen’s jubilee and clockwork events. All in all, I’m getting sick of it. and to be honest the events now just make matters worse. the only reason anyone would WANT to do tequatl now is for the rare drops, the only reason for doing TA, would be for rare drops, and to be frank. I’m not going to play content I don’t like just for a 1% (or worse) chance that I MIGHT get something decent as a reward.

ill be honest, I want a new zone to explore and a big update.

Its great that Anet is providing content every month. But its all temp content for the most part and somewhat lacking at times.

I think alot of people are ready for something big, not more temp content.

Beast Sos.1457:

The problem with last update, imo, was that they updated something that was already in the game which was suppose to be difficult to begin with. the content updates shouldnt revolve around content that is already in the game which is being fixed to what Anet wanted it to be from the beginning but the content should be new stuff we havent heard of or seen. im not saying they shouldnt work on existing content which lacks fun/difficulty but they shouldnt make it the main content in the updates bc all their doing is fixing their mistakes.

i know this had nothing to do with pve but you do know they added a huge map change to pvp and a new mechanic in the form of bloodlust

marnick.4305:

I wouldn’t call either LFG or Tequatl lackluster. The next update will probably come with the kick off for WvW season 1 which shouldn’t be called lackluster either.

Tell that to the bottom servers of the tiers…

But I do kinda agree with OP, ever since the skypirates/bazaar patches, I’ve become more and more less excited about the next patch. The QoL things (like wallet, account MF, lfg system) are things that I’ve enjoyed, but all the other content I’ve started to dislike right off the bat. First Candidate Trials, then Liadri (and the whole locking us out of previous content till we completed a achievement panel), then World 2 of SAB, and now Tequatl. Don’t really look forward to this next patch. I’m still hoping Halloween will be as fun as it was last year, but that hope/excitement is dwindling…

Don’t worry you will be able to do that new dungeon path only once per day.
20 min of new content? I am sure that there will be more than that.

Namu.5712:

ill be honest, I want a new zone to explore and a big update.

Its great that Anet is providing content every month. But its all temp content for the most part and somewhat lacking at times.

I think alot of people are ready for something big, not more temp content.

I think ArenaNet learned their lesson with the whole new zone thing. You can see what happened to Southsun Cove. It was abandoned shortly after the original Karka invasion event and then abandoned again after the Secrets of Southsun event. Basically, the message that ArenaNet is getting from players, contrary to what you post, is don’t make new zones because they don’t really care.

That’s because Southsun and everything in it was complete kitten and they nerfed the only good things about it (rich ori node, t6 mat farming) while leaving all the trash.

We’ve been asking for a new permanent dungeon path for almost a year

Go be bored somewhere else

IDK how you could call the teq revamp underwhelming OP. It’s some of the best content in this game. I wish MORE of the fights had multiple tatics/phases required in them like the teq fight (I also love lupi because of this kinda stuff).

The go and click on X teeth etc. part was stupid and just kinda tacked on there to make it a living story kinda thing though (seriously stop doing this skilless kinda junk a-net). But who cares, the teq fight is awesome.

This time around we’re getting a new dung. You havn’t even seen it. Wait until you’ve done it.

Aberrant.6749:

IDK how you could call the teq revamp underwhelming OP. It’s some of the best content in this game. I wish MORE of the fights had multiple tatics/phases required in them like the teq fight (I also love lupi because of this kinda stuff).

The go and click on X teeth etc. part was stupid and just kinda tacked on there to make it a living story kinda thing though (seriously stop doing this skilless kinda junk a-net). But who cares, the teq fight is awesome.

This time around we’re getting a new dung. You havn’t even seen it. Wait until you’ve done it.

I would call this underwhelming. Day #2 of the new Tequatl encounter on my realm:

Elbegast.6970:

Aberrant.6749:

IDK how you could call the teq revamp underwhelming OP. It’s some of the best content in this game. I wish MORE of the fights had multiple tatics/phases required in them like the teq fight (I also love lupi because of this kinda stuff).

The go and click on X teeth etc. part was stupid and just kinda tacked on there to make it a living story kinda thing though (seriously stop doing this skilless kinda junk a-net). But who cares, the teq fight is awesome.

This time around we’re getting a new dung. You havn’t even seen it. Wait until you’ve done it.

I would call this underwhelming. Day #2 of the new Tequatl encounter on my realm:

I love the time on the minimap ;p 4 am…
Nice.

Gathslan.1870:

Elbegast.6970:

Aberrant.6749:

IDK how you could call the teq revamp underwhelming OP. It’s some of the best content in this game. I wish MORE of the fights had multiple tatics/phases required in them like the teq fight (I also love lupi because of this kinda stuff).

The go and click on X teeth etc. part was stupid and just kinda tacked on there to make it a living story kinda thing though (seriously stop doing this skilless kinda junk a-net). But who cares, the teq fight is awesome.

This time around we’re getting a new dung. You havn’t even seen it. Wait until you’ve done it.

I would call this underwhelming. Day #2 of the new Tequatl encounter on my realm:

I love the time on the minimap ;p 4 am…
Nice.

Lol-ed.

Just because a server can’t muster the numbers to even cap a single map doesn’t mean it’s bad content. I’m sure the 4am part had something to do with that though :P

Aberrant.6749:

Gathslan.1870:

Elbegast.6970:

Aberrant.6749:

IDK how you could call the teq revamp underwhelming OP. It’s some of the best content in this game. I wish MORE of the fights had multiple tatics/phases required in them like the teq fight (I also love lupi because of this kinda stuff).

The go and click on X teeth etc. part was stupid and just kinda tacked on there to make it a living story kinda thing though (seriously stop doing this skilless kinda junk a-net). But who cares, the teq fight is awesome.

This time around we’re getting a new dung. You havn’t even seen it. Wait until you’ve done it.

I would call this underwhelming. Day #2 of the new Tequatl encounter on my realm:

I love the time on the minimap ;p 4 am…
Nice.

Lol-ed.

Just because a server can’t muster the numbers to even cap a single map doesn’t mean it’s bad content. I’m sure the 4am part had something to do with that though :P

That would be a wednesday as well.

Brutal Arts.6307:

That’s because Southsun and everything in it was complete kitten and they nerfed the only good things about it (rich ori node, t6 mat farming) while leaving all the trash.

There’s also barely any events in it. DE are supposed to be what keeps you doing stuff in maps.

I don’t get how people complain about the lack of content.
I play gw2 like 3-4 hours every day and there’s so many things i still want to do in gw2.
Imo they don’t have to release new stuff every 2 weeks because it’s hard to keep up..

But what the hell we get free content every 2 weeks and you guys are like it’s not enough? oh man..

I agree with both points of view here, whilst I like most of what we get early on it was temp content that went, and alot of the content has been functionality updates which are BRILLIANT for the most part (love the whole wallet idea) but as a veteran player of the game I find that there isnt much going on to keep me coming back. Theres only so much of the same PVE I can do when I dont have a goal for doing it now (kitted out main, and 4 alts) Keep up the good work ANET but please give us PVE’ers something to aspire to

So there’s a lot of misdirected fire going on around here… again, to my “surprise”.

Let me try to clear somethings up. I’m not saying the new dungeon path will be bad (since you know, I haven’t played it yet). I’m not saying I don’t want old content to get new updates, in fact I think they should stick to mainly updating old content before adding new ones.

What I am saying is that compared to all other updates in the past this new one and the Tequatl one are very small. They add very little to the game, there isn’t a lot to experience.

In most content updates they added a variety of new events for you to go out into the world and do, things that make you go from map to map. You had a lot to do.

On top of that each content update came with a few life improvements, such as the wallet, better drop rates, brand new items, revamp to champs, etc. Those things alone were enough to get me excited.

What I’m saying is that both this and the Tequatl update had a noticeably smaller amount of things being added to the game. Worst of all they’re coming one right after the other.

Although I was expecting a lot, lot more from the Tequatl update it didn’t bother me too much. But now that we have another small and lackluster update around the corner it’s just left me with nothing to do in game.

Now on a completely personal side; I find myself logging in every day for a few minutes just to get my quartz crystals, charge them, craft stuff for the ascended weapon and log off. I can’t even be bothered to do daily anymore.

Which is something that saddens me a lot that this game which I dedicated a lot of my time, effort and attention is leaving me with nothing to do. I constantly find myself running laps in Lion’s Arch as a means of killing time and trying to find something to do.

You can’t ignore this, even if you personally aren’t feelings this, you can’t ignore the fact this is becoming a bigger and bigger problem among many players.

Wanze.8410:

Aberrant.6749:

Gathslan.1870:

Elbegast.6970:

Aberrant.6749:

IDK how you could call the teq revamp underwhelming OP. It’s some of the best content in this game. I wish MORE of the fights had multiple tatics/phases required in them like the teq fight (I also love lupi because of this kinda stuff).

The go and click on X teeth etc. part was stupid and just kinda tacked on there to make it a living story kinda thing though (seriously stop doing this skilless kinda junk a-net). But who cares, the teq fight is awesome.

This time around we’re getting a new dung. You havn’t even seen it. Wait until you’ve done it.

I would call this underwhelming. Day #2 of the new Tequatl encounter on my realm:

I love the time on the minimap ;p 4 am…
Nice.

Lol-ed.

Just because a server can’t muster the numbers to even cap a single map doesn’t mean it’s bad content. I’m sure the 4am part had something to do with that though :P

That would be a wednesday as well.

It’s ridiculous how you’re all just dismissing the very true and sad facts Elbegast just posted by pulling cheap tricks.

Yes it’s on a wednesday, what other day would it be? If it’s the second day of the release it’s gonna be wednesday since all content updates are released on a tuesday.

And the fact it’s 4am on his clock means nothing. I play in the US servers yet I’m 4 hours ahead of the server time.

But either way, all of that is meaningless since I remember back with the Zephyrite Sanctum update how one time I got on at 6am my time which was either 2-3am server time and the sanctum was full of life.

Despite the late hour and despite being in the middle of the week there were people jumping around everywhere, doing the sanctum sprint and all that jazz.

That’s because the Zephyrite Sanctum was an actual update that added lots of things for players to do, enjoy and experience. While even though I appreciate the Tequatl change it’s undeniable how it barely added anything new to the game.

I can kinda understand both sides but this is how I see it.

Updates to already existing content is crucial for examples the world bosses .. they made so many changes to the loot that they never had a the time to adjust those fights difficulty-wise

New features are always exciting but the story stuff.. meh.. Like many people I think the story is way too light-hearted especially in comparison to GW1. I basically can’t take it serious and after each story related update ( the last one was 1 month ago?) I don’t have this “and what happens next?” feeling I am more like “Oh hopefully we kill her in the next update so A.Net can introduce a new antagonist.”
Stuff like Tequatl Rising and SAB doesn’t even try to add to the Living Story and if we ask A.Net about it they’ll always respond with sentences like “Oh you will see how it all fits together! Just wait!”.

Delryn.7235:

……..
@Windu
-It’s not proper to think that just cause they’re not charging you for it directly that it’s free. Or even that just because it’s free we shouldn’t expect quality with our product. This game is something I really enjoy and I genuinely get sad at not being able to enjoy it for so long.
……..

I’m not sure what your definition of “FREE” is, but I think it’s fully proper to remember that you are NOT being charged for these added pieces of content. You certainly have every right to complain about the quality you do not feel is being provided, but discounting the FACT that they ARE FREE is not even logical in any way. Maybe you just need a break from GW2 for a while?

Chief.5928:

Laughable how the OP dismisses content that hasn’t even been made available yet.

Any sensible person would do the following:
1. Wait for new content to be released.
2. Play said content.
3. Create an opinion on the experiences as gathered while playing said content.

Any reasonable person would do the following:

1. Look at the current track record and history of content.
2. Use common sense and personal judgement to form a personal opinion.
3. Either be pleasantly surprised when the content isn’t crap, or be yet again dismayed.

Seriously. the damage is done here, there’s no way that a single dungeon path can repair the removal of ‘easy loots’ from the world bosses and contain enough content to make up for what was removed via attrition last patch.

Unless Scarlet is in reality.. pulls off her rubber mask …a pinata full of Ascended Weapon boxes!