Guild Wars 2

Okay to be blunt, is there anything available for lower level characters to take part in? I don’t mind adding high level content, but it would be nice to see more low to mid level content without it being festival based.

Nope. Nothing for them to do at all….

Outside of the 18 sub-level 60 zones that are already out there.

All of southsun was doable by low lvs (i did everything there on a lv 3 who ended up lv 30 by the end of the month), F&F was doable from lvs 10+ for the world content and as low as lv 1 (did the instance a few times on a lv 1 character, who got to lv 3 by the end of it) for the instance, dragon bash and Aether Retreat were done by this same character (who was now lv 35) and got EVERY achievement in that dungeon and took him to lv 45… the sanctum was done by the same character, got him to like 50… then everything but the gauntlet (which i had to use my main for) was doable by this character…. Then there was SAB which i literally run on a 100% naked character because clothing is for sissies in SAB!!

In short.. there’s been content for lvs 1-50 or so for the past however many months, let level 80’s get SOMETHING… not to mention if the instance is anything like the last 2 living story ones than you should be able to do it with a lv 1 character so long as you don’t suck at the game and can have allies help keep mobs away from you (because your armor still sucks even though your base stats are good).

I’m unsure why the snark. Is there anything wrong with the idea that lower level characters might wish to participate in non-festival events in the living world, which is what we are discussing, not the general content of GW2 which has pretty much been there since day one.

I’m not saying level 80s should have no new content, but there has to be a better way to balance the content so that lower level characters don’t miss out on the entire experience. This is called living world for a reason, which means everyone should be able to be involved on at least some level, even if for lower level characters its tangential quests that still allow them to be a part of the story. I don’t see that as a large threat to any level 80.

I only used to have the same mentality. Why higher level only? Then I realised this when I reach level 80. All the things that you do to reach 80 is just warm up.

The game only truly begin when you reach 80!

While I agree wholeheartedly with the OP, it’s worth pointing out that SAB could be done by characters of any level, while Tequatl is in a level 65 zone. (Although I’m sure elitists would lambast any non-80’s trying to take part in the fight.)

Virtually all the living story so far…up until recently, has been doable by lower levels. Most of boss week could be done of course…and before that, you were leveled to 80 to do the pavillion and the Scarlet dungeon.

There are actually very few activities that were brought out in the Living World that a lower level can’t do.

And when you consider that probably upwards of 90% of the players (and probably much more) have an 80th level character, it’s not bad to have some of it for 80s.

Zaxares.5419:

Tequatl is in a level 65 zone.

And? Teq was clearly not balanced around level 65 characters any more than Twilight Assault is balanced around level 1-15 (zone level) or 55 (dungeon level) characters.

All the dailies that counts towards the meta so far have been achievable on a low level character. The past living story were open to low level chars because they were temporary. This dungeon path and teakettle are permanent additions to the game so there is no reason to open it up to low level chars because they can experience this content when they get to 80. They are not missing out on this any more then them missing out on the Arah dungeon that has been out since launch.

It all started going out the window with ‘dragon bash’.

Someone can do living story from first day. Destroyed by not only maps/mobs, but required gold to gamble.

No fighting over spawns. Glad that was only in dragon bash.

I won’t go on about off topic things they been doing.
But yes, seems ‘living story’ are having 80 only times. It seemed ok with Teq + SAB going at once, as there was a lowbie friendly thing to do.

Think it’s about time ANet went back and had a look at there manifesto’s from when the game started, rather than just deleting bits off there website as they can’t be bothered anymore.

To be fair, this new content is permanent. You’ll be able to play it as soon as you hit 80.

Ariella Goldstein.3562:

I’m unsure why the snark. Is there anything wrong with the idea that lower level characters might wish to participate in non-festival events in the living world, which is what we are discussing, not the general content of GW2 which has pretty much been there since day one.

I’m not saying level 80s should have no new content, but there has to be a better way to balance the content so that lower level characters don’t miss out on the entire experience. This is called living world for a reason, which means everyone should be able to be involved on at least some level, even if for lower level characters its tangential quests that still allow them to be a part of the story. I don’t see that as a large threat to any level 80.

Please ignore those ‘special’ posters. As noted, I believe the updated content is permanent. So, eventually, you should be able to do it if people are in fact still willing to do the content.

And yes, you are correct. Most of the ‘temporary’ content was accessible to low-level players to the point where their levels were bumped. This is a valid observation.

Hope this answer helped.

Also later this month there will be the Halloween update. Last year most of that could be done by lower level characters. I wasn’t able to finish getting the upgraded version of Mad Memories because you had to go into a Level 45 Zone and my highest level character was level 20-something, but I heard other people did it by asking their guild or friends to help.

I don’t know if we’ll get all the same stuff this year but that’s one aspect I’d definitely expect them to keep.

And after that will be Wintersday where I think literally everything could be done by players of any level because the only level 80 content was the dungeon and that upscalled you.

Ariella Goldstein.3562:

I’m unsure why the snark. Is there anything wrong with the idea that lower level characters might wish to participate in non-festival events in the living world, which is what we are discussing, not the general content of GW2 which has pretty much been there since day one.

I’m not saying level 80s should have no new content, but there has to be a better way to balance the content so that lower level characters don’t miss out on the entire experience. This is called living world for a reason, which means everyone should be able to be involved on at least some level, even if for lower level characters its tangential quests that still allow them to be a part of the story. I don’t see that as a large threat to any level 80.

It’s no more snarky, then the psuedo-naivete of posts that ask “Why isn’t there more content update for <insert your group of choice here>”.

If the content has a new dungeon, you have complaints about having to group and being unable to solo it. If the content has jumping puzzle type content, players with limitations have issues. Release content that results in world event content, players forced into overflows raise hell. And on and on….

It’s not that any of these complaints aren’t valid, however, it really isn’t unreasonable to expect players to realize that content biased towards certain playstyle demographics will happen. That combined with the simple notion that you can’t please everyone all the time, it’s no surprise that some players will be left out.

This would be true if ANet hadn’t set a standard early on where ALL content was made available to all players to the point where they temporarily increased levels. If this wasn’t previously done, throughout the year, then your point would be valid.

But experience has shown otherwise.

This is a huge reason for the increase in complaints. People are starting to worry the game is going the casual versus the specific player-type only.

And it’s a valid concern.

No one wants an us versus them situation with updated content. Well, no one expect those that benefit . . . obviously.

Your point in this case isn’t valid as this new dungeon is permanent content, meaning it will still be there once you reach level 80 on your first character.

As a result you need not be afraid that you will miss out on the storyline and the rewards it can open up to you.

Ardenwolfe.8590:

This would be true if ANet hadn’t set a standard early on where ALL content was made available to all players to the point where they temporarily increased levels. If this wasn’t previously done, throughout the year, then your point would be valid.

But experience has shown otherwise.

This is a huge reason for the increase in complaints. People are starting to worry the game is going the casual versus the specific player-type only.

And it’s a valid concern.

No one wants an us versus them situation with updated content. Well, no one expect those that benefit . . . obviously.

I do believe my point is still valid.

Just because some content was available to all players doesn’t require that all content be avaialble to everyone, nor does it mean that just because that some content was avaialble to all was it enjoyble nor inclusive of all players in the least. My point being that even when it was inclusive, there was always some demographic that had issues with it. And I would daresay there will always be such a contingent.

The way things turn into an “us vs. them” situation is when “they” start to think that their needs are more important than those others….

My original point being that if some content isn’t appealing, there’s plenty of other stuff out there to do. And as ANet has shown, the breadth of their content releases has demonstrated a desire to cater to all playstyles. Maybe not all in one update, but eventually.

Ardenwolfe.8590:

This would be true if ANet hadn’t set a standard early on where ALL content was made available to all players to the point where they temporarily increased levels. If this wasn’t previously done, throughout the year, then your point would be valid.

But experience has shown otherwise.

This is a huge reason for the increase in complaints. People are starting to worry the game is going the casual versus the specific player-type only.

And it’s a valid concern.

No one wants an us versus them situation with updated content. Well, no one expect those that benefit . . . obviously.

^- Spot on.
I was highly concerned in dragon bash, with fighting to kill spawns.
I’m a bit worried how they seem to have changed there mind on necro’s. Removing there older info about them being attrition, patching them with ‘burst condi’ and making them less & less attrition with things like DS patch.

I’m worried that this game I love, is losing direction, is still very buggy/frustrating. I’m worried that even friends I gamed with for many many hours in other MMO’s, that I bought copy of this game, wont play it due to these issues.