Guild Wars 2

Am I the only one getting bored/annoyed at the fact that every event in this game is lead by an Asuran? Halloween – Asuran priory member… Lost Shore – Asura leads the way giving warning to LA. Fractals – Asuran. Now Wintersday, an event dominated by cold weather and snow – Asuran toy maker.

Can we get a little variety with the NPCs?

For Halloween it said that the Asuran was simply the one assigned to it… Thats mainly Priory. For the Lost Shore; Do the Norn, Humans, or Sylvari seem like they could figure out fluctuations on a reading? They’re too embattled to even care. Yes a Charr might have fit in here but they’ve got their hands full too. now as for Wintersday: Who else can fly around Tyria in that time? Hrmmmm?

Aznhaxx.2054:

For Halloween it said that the Asuran was simply the one assigned to it… Thats mainly Priory. For the Lost Shore; Do the Norn, Humans, or Sylvari seem like they could figure out fluctuations on a reading? They’re too embattled to even care. Yes a Charr might have fit in here but they’ve got their hands full too. now as for Wintersday: Who else can fly around Tyria in that time? Hrmmmm?

This further exemplifies the point that the events are designed around the Asura. The Karka could have been discovered without using fluctuations. Same with Wintersday, why did it have to be a flying ship (which by the way is not purely asuran tech, as described in the story since their ships were combinations of all the race’s tech. The Charr, for example, have their tanks it is not out of question that they could have their own ships.). The event for example could have been a Norn, which fits much more with the theme of winter, going to each of the cities bringing gifts he makes in a workshop.

Asura’s are the nerdy ones, the intelligent ones, the ones that study stuff..
makes sense they know all this threats first and then comes the Norn/Charr/human captains acting kitteny and pay no attention to the warnings offered by said Asura and LA suffer the consecuences..!!

and “Wintersday” is also about presents.. what’s a norn gonna give as a present? Lion tooth necklaces? lol

I’m not ready to judge the Wintersday event yet as we don’t know THAT much of the backstory.. give it some time huh? Also it is kind of hard to discover a species unseen for a very long time without very advanced technologies

This further exemplifies the point that the events are designed around the Asura.

Which is because we are awesome :P Nah, joke, I mean we are, but for me it’s really not a big deal. I think there will be other races’ chars in further events too

ConterK.3972:

Asura’s are the nerdy ones, the intelligent ones, the ones that study stuff..
makes sense they know all this threats first and then comes the Norn/Charr/human captains acting kitteny and pay no attention to the warnings offered by said Asura and LA suffer the consecuences..!!

and “Wintersday” is also about presents.. what’s a norn gonna give as a present? Lion tooth necklaces? lol

Why couldnt a Sylvari have visioned it. Why couldnt a a Charr/Human/Norn stumble upon one of their shells, or be part of a pirate crew that came from the island. Again, it did not need to be designed around Asura. As for presents, the Norn are also known for their craftmanship, so it is perfectly reasonable for a Norn to craft toys. Nothing says that these gifts have to be technologically advanced.

Aznhaxx.2054:

I’m not ready to judge the Wintersday event yet as we don’t know THAT much of the backstory.. give it some time huh? Also it is kind of hard to discover a species unseen for a very long time without very advanced technologies

We already know Tixx is the main character that Wintersday revolves around. For this argument, that is all we need to know. As for the unseen comment, see my response above.

Parisalchuk.9230:

ConterK.3972:

Asura’s are the nerdy ones, the intelligent ones, the ones that study stuff..
makes sense they know all this threats first and then comes the Norn/Charr/human captains acting kitteny and pay no attention to the warnings offered by said Asura and LA suffer the consecuences..!!

and “Wintersday” is also about presents.. what’s a norn gonna give as a present? Lion tooth necklaces? lol

Why couldnt a Sylvari have visioned it. Why couldnt a a Charr/Human/Norn stumble upon one of their shells, or be part of a pirate crew that came from the island. Again, it did not need to be designed around Asura. As for presents, the Norn are also known for their craftmanship, so it is perfectly reasonable for a Norn to craft toys. Nothing says that these gifts have to be technologically advanced.

Except that a Norn couldn’t create a mass manufacturing toy machine. Especially one that would not start creating crazy/evil toys. I’m kinda fine with it being Asura each time, since they are the smartest and loudest race.

skullmount.1758:

Parisalchuk.9230:

ConterK.3972:

Asura’s are the nerdy ones, the intelligent ones, the ones that study stuff..
makes sense they know all this threats first and then comes the Norn/Charr/human captains acting kitteny and pay no attention to the warnings offered by said Asura and LA suffer the consecuences..!!

and “Wintersday” is also about presents.. what’s a norn gonna give as a present? Lion tooth necklaces? lol

Why couldnt a Sylvari have visioned it. Why couldnt a a Charr/Human/Norn stumble upon one of their shells, or be part of a pirate crew that came from the island. Again, it did not need to be designed around Asura. As for presents, the Norn are also known for their craftmanship, so it is perfectly reasonable for a Norn to craft toys. Nothing says that these gifts have to be technologically advanced.

Except that a Norn couldn’t create a mass manufacturing toy machine. Especially one that would not start creating crazy/evil toys. I’m kinda fine with it being Asura each time, since they are the smartest and loudest race.

I will say this again: Mass manufacturing of toys, Wintersday being about gift giving now, its all design. It did not need to be designed this way. Im sure they could have found a way to incorporate a different story to go along with the holiday. And Im not saying this event can’t be Asura lead, but then why was Halloween and Lost Shore Asura lead? The lack of variety is quite annoying.

Without the Asura to keep the world properly functioning at optimum level it would unravel under the sheer stupidity of the lesser races.

Sheesh, what’s with the racism towards the Asura? I’m sorry that you other races feel inferior to our obviously superior intellect, but that’s just the way the Eternal Alchemy designed things.

I’ll answer a few thing to clarify what and why things are the way they are (I’ll try to simplify them for the bookahs reading this):

1) The Consortium was originally founded by Asurans, however they since expanded and allowed non-Asuran races to join. That is why the lead members of the Consortium are/were Asuran, because they founded it.

2) The V.O.E.D. (that’s “Very Old Energy Detector” for the bookahs out there), was created as an invention for the Snaff Prize. This is what was used to find the magical energies related to the ghosts of the past that told the story of the rise and fall of the Mad King. How else are the other races going to talk to ghosts? The Charr would probably just fired guns trying to kill them as they do at Ascalon.

3) Giant airships may be using “some” tech and design off of the other races, but the real key is the power to how it runs; which is purely Asuran tech. Also, the toys aren’t just simply ‘made-by-hand’, they’re created by a toy making machine. There’s no other race that could make such sophisticated machines to make that many toys for Tyria than an Asura.

*Note: As for the Sylvari, most of their entire reasoning for being in Tyria revolves around the Elder Dragons. They’re a young, somewhat foolish race that is abstract to the world around them. A Sylvari solution to the invading Karka would probably have been to try to hug them.

*Note: Charr are a warring race, it’s most all they know. The only reason they even stopped fighting with the humans is because of the peace treaty that Queen Jenna set up. That and they nearly blew themselves up in their two campaigns against Ascalon and Orr. To believe a Charr could hand out gifts to anyone, especially humans, is laughable at best.

*Note: Bookahs….er, Humans….are on the brink of extinction due to their foolish mistakes in the past. It’s so bad that their human gods have abandoned them for who knows what dominion and they’re close to starting a civil war because of a split verdict on the peace treaty with the Charr.

*Note: And the last race to pick on is the Norn. Honorable as it may be, these giants of the frozen north are very primitive. They mostly wear furs as clothing, worship animals in the wild, and live in huts made of wood and more furs thrown on top. There’s just no way they could deal with the complexities involved with developing toys for all of Tyria, let alone distributing it (unless they pray to some thousands of birds to carry them everywhere, but where’s the fun in that?).

I guess we have to complain about something, right?

I don’t have a problem or complaint with all of the events being mostly Asura-run so far.

But it is something I’ve noticed, and I would like a bit of variety in the future.

I find myself not caring. I enjoy the events for what they are, and think the events are satisfactorily diverse; having it ‘lead’ by a specific race every time doesn’t detract from the experience.

Asurans have all the extra cash, since they own all the waypoints and charge an arm and a leg all year to use them from every player. Where do you think all that money is going?

Nalora.7964:

Asurans have all the extra cash, since they own all the waypoints and charge an arm and a leg all year to use them from every player. Where do you think all that money is going?

I think we have the winning response right here! Haha, love it.

Parisalchuk.9230:

ConterK.3972:

Asura’s are the nerdy ones, the intelligent ones, the ones that study stuff..
makes sense they know all this threats first and then comes the Norn/Charr/human captains acting kitteny and pay no attention to the warnings offered by said Asura and LA suffer the consecuences..!!

and “Wintersday” is also about presents.. what’s a norn gonna give as a present? Lion tooth necklaces? lol

Why couldnt a Sylvari have visioned it. Why couldnt a a Charr/Human/Norn stumble upon one of their shells, or be part of a pirate crew that came from the island. Again, it did not need to be designed around Asura. As for presents, the Norn are also known for their craftmanship, so it is perfectly reasonable for a Norn to craft toys. Nothing says that these gifts have to be technologically advanced.

Lol.. i think the only “Sylvari” that can vision stuff is the “Pale Tree”? or White tree? or w/e their eldest one is called..
Charr/Human/Norn wouldnt pay attention to w/e they find.. they’r not into research and study as the asuras..
those races are known for being more into fighting and combat that they’r known for their brains..
and if they’r part of the crew, as there were many, they wouldnt say a word since they’r working with the people that brought them here.. and they didnt said a word about it either, obviously!!

Lol.. i think the only “Sylvari” that can vision stuff is the “Pale Tree”? or White tree? or w/e their eldest one is called..
Charr/Human/Norn wouldnt pay attention to w/e they find.. they’r not into research and study as the asuras..
those races are known for being more into fighting and combat that they’r known for their brains..
and if they’r part of the crew, as there were many, they wouldnt say a word since they’r working with the people that brought them here.. and they didnt said a word about it either, obviously!!and norns are more known for crafting weapons.. not anything… Asuras were made around the fact they were inventors.. even the story line of asuras is based on that and one of your choices is “what was your first invention”

Am I the only one expecting a Norn Santa Claus giving gifts w/ a flying Polar Bear?

I dont get all this Asura racism..

But i don’t really understand how the other races celebrate wintersday as its a human custom from GW1…

You realize, Hoelbrak has the same crafting capabilities as any other City right? The superior intellect must be failing you. ;-)

Would you rather Trahearne lead a holiday event instead?

Asurans are distant cousins to santas elfs. So its only natural that Asurans would run this event.

At least we know Octoberfest will be hosted by the Norns and Earth Day will be led by the Sylvari (if we even get those holidays).

But it would be nice to see someone else in the spotlight for once instead of the Asura all the time.

Well actually the october event was more human related since the other races do not celebrate it. Which is why it was only in LA and the human areas. Only reason why there were other races dressed up because the kids where getting free candy. Like in real life im pretty sure kids dont know why halloween is celebrated they just know they will get candy. Also Mad King event was focused around the mad king who was a human, the Priory were just background characters.

Also i dont see why asuras wouldnt get the lead it this. o3o i mean they could use some norn make him be santa and asuras be his little elves but that would be too similar to the original and be way out of line with GW2 theme.

This is why bookahs shouldn’t be allowed on the forums.

I have no problem with Asura heading all these events. They have the most ingenuity, so it makes sense.

Besides, Sylvari will get a chance to shine when Arbor Day and Earth Day come around.

Asuras are so complexed by the fact that they are one of the tiniest races in Tyria that they feel like they must make everything bigger than them and be the main character in every scenario in orded to be considered amongst the others. But, we know Asuras so well ; Tixx will fail an experiment and the other 4 races will have to clean up the mess

i’m guessing Jeff Grubb wrote the lore behind the winter’s day event. he came up with the asura in the first place, if i remember correctly.

an yet nobody complains about the ASURA GATES and FREE travel we provided for all you ungrateful people

Well spring is coming up how about some pagan like rights of spring with the Norn? Maybe something with the Jackalope spirit

I have no problem letting the Asura make our toys, I mean its toy making for goodness sake. I cant think of a better race for it.

Mif.3471:

This is why bookahs shouldn’t be allowed on the forums.

^ Thank.

Also… really? Halloween was very much a human-oriented event, as other forumites have already mentioned, and Lost Shores didn’t even really have any titular characters at all (unless you mean the fractals?).

Noviere.7309:

I guess we have to complain about something, right?

Yea pretty much this.

It’s common knowledge that Asura are the smart race, the sciencey race, the experimenters and builders. For the Asura to be on the forefront of any discovery or design or invention just seems logical. I could ramble on and justify this argument but really, I just don’t have the energy to defend such a silly issue.

MaideN.3284:

an yet nobody complains about the ASURA GATES and FREE travel we provided for all you ungrateful people

Funny, I remember being able to travel freely all the way to Cantha back in GW1, faster and with less loading screens than it takes to get from Lion’s Arch to Fort Trinity now (especially if you were foolish enough to pick the Priory as your organisation, since alliance or not the other organisations don’t let you use their gate to go TO Fort Trinity).

More seriously, though, I think the norn are being underestimated here – norn view craftsmanship as being just as valid a way to make their legend as anything else, and while it may be unconventional, think of how strong the legend of Santa Claus is – a Norn would probably give his right arm to be the Santa of Tyria. Now, they may not have the resources of an asura to pull it off on a large scale or with hi-tech toys, but when it comes to finely crafted normal toys, a norn might actually be better suited than an asura.

After all, none of the great smiths gathered by Trahearne were asura…

Why not every race its own festival.
Norn = wintersday , Charr = helloween , Asura or Humans = easter , Sylvari = springfestival , . . .

Why should we have easter we Asura are no bunnies xD

Joking aside. Easter, Spring, Midsummer whatever would fit Norns too so I would wait what will be done in the next events.

Before Lost Shores happened, I thought it was going to be Pirate themed with humans at the fore front. I pretty much stopped reading the lore though when I realized I’d lose out on necessary material gathering if I took time to read. I still go back to some old RPGs when I feel like a good story with no rushed feeling that modern mmorpgs give me.

The trailer was voiced by a cute sylvari. Period. u.u

too much love for asura
asura did this asura did that
im getting tired of it too

at least we got sylvari to lead our storyline so is not all asura lol

Ayane Hajinmon.9165:

at least we got sylvari to lead our storyline so is not all asura lol

Extremely infuriating sylvari with either an inferiority complex, or total lack of self-awareness.

Btw, asura are awesome, so are sylvari though… just not that one :P.

2 words: Christmas elves.

Isn’t the reason obvious now?

I agree completely with the OP. I’m pretty baffled by the people saying that it “wouldn’t work” if they substituted another race. Of course it wouldn’t work. All the events have been designed for asura. They would have to change the entire context, too.

Why not make the “Santa” a jolly norn (Saxton Hale?), and he has an asuran krewe (with their own motives) making toys for him? What about a charr warband that decided they want to have a bit of fun for a change? A sylvari whose Wyld Hunt is to deliver toys across the world?

There are so many other possibilities. Why make an asura lead the event again?

EDIT: The more I think about it, the more I think they should have looked to pagan inspiration and had this event lead by the norn, possibly alongside the sylvari. Just LOOK at the Wikipedia page on Yule. If that doesn’t look like a norn holiday, then the norn simply don’t have holidays.

Of course an event can be designed to fit for other races but it is like it is. If there are Asura leading events ten times in a row I would say the same as you, but really Heloween was rather wrapped around humans and their traditions, ok Lost shores has many Asura and now this. I’m pretty sure the other events will be designed for other races to lead.

I don’t really mind the Asuran lead on events. The Asura fit both of the previous events perfectly, as for wintersday, I gotta admit that a jolly old Norn riding a sled pulled by flying Dolyak would be great. But hey airships are cool stuff, and I don;t mind gifts falling from an airship, free stuff is free stuff Now if an Asura leads a spring festival then we have a fight on our hands >:O

Bow down before your Asuran masters, bookah.

Where are your gods now, humans?

…Seriously, where are they?

I came from Aion, where NCsoft seemed to be training the players to expect a continuous trend of more boring events, each outdoing the last. Even the items they would offer in the cash shop were like weapon skin versions of clip art, thrown together and garish. After a while, I learned to not get excited, even at this time of year when the event planners should be at the top of their game.

ANet has given me the complete opposite so far, despite a few forgivable technical hiccups. For the first time in a while, I’m really psyched to see what’s coming over the next couple of weeks (starting today! woot!).

It’s great to be in a frame of mind where you’re confident that you’re about to be spoiled again, instead of disappointed again. I’m just grateful to feel this sense of excitement about upcoming events. The race of the figurehead NPC is not even close to being on my radar.

Stupid Bookahs! I must contact Krewe Leader Tixx and tell him to cancel the celebration. He didn’t have to create these gadgets for you, you know. Now you just get Dolyak dung.

Rilke Cadmus.6829:

Stupid Bookahs! I must contact Krewe Leader Tixx and tell him to cancel the celebration. He didn’t have to create these gadgets for you, you know. Now you just get Dolyak dung.

More respect, or I’ll have to step on you and burry you underground, where you never should have emerged from! >: O

Asura is just find. People love to complain, my god.

Halloween was a human event. The lead was the King.
Lost shore didn’t have a lead, it was a karka event.

Winters day gifts, Humans would give you fashion, Charr would give you weapons, Norn would give you beer, Sylvari would give you a hug and/or a stab in the back, Asura will give you toys that go crazy and try to kill you.

Yeah this one is hands down Asura. Asura, cute, but oh no not really.

Given what I suspect to be the nature of the January event, I don’t think we will be seeing another Asura one so never fear!

I can’t imagine why it matters, but since you asked…

It’s because all the other races are at war with each other. The Asurans are neutral parties. They’re the world travelers, the peacemakers (note the name of their police force), etc. For world events, it’s only natural that an Asuran lead the way out of the bitter, partisan warmongering of the other races. ESPECIALLY for Xmas.