Guild Wars 2

I believe all Mini’s should be unbound and a Mini Trio added.

Unbound but no mini trio so I get rich :P

Trade your gold for gems, then use the gems to buy the mini. I spent $10 on gems at launch and have been using gold to buy gem stuff ever since.

350 gems (the price for the plush griffon) is at the time of this post 6g 50s. And that sounds like about what I would think folks who paid money just to flip them for gold would charge in some other game as well.

Just pugging dungeons you can get about a gold a run. Thats 6 dungeon runs and maybe a bit of selling old crafting mats you don’t need to get that. A really dedicated player could get that in a day. A more reasonable one could probably get it in 3 or 4 days.

Disagree.

Your complaint has nothing to do with account bound because you can craft them and you can buy them for gems.

Your complaint is that you think they are too expensive to buy with gold converted to gems.

+ 1

A simple +1 can’t be done since the body length must at least be 15

I don’t think they are ‘too expensive to buy for gold with gems’. (Oh wait I do)

My main point actually is that I really just want to have a specific mini and I am not going to gamble because I don’t give a flying duck for the rest.

Greiger.7092:

Trade your gold for gems, then use the gems to buy the mini. I spent $10 on gems at launch and have been using gold to buy gem stuff ever since.

350 gems (the price for the plush griffon) is at the time of this post 6g 50s. And that sounds like about what I would think folks who paid money just to flip them for gold would charge in some other game as well.

Just pugging dungeons you can get about a gold a run. Thats 6 dungeon runs and maybe a bit of selling old crafting mats you don’t need to get that. A really dedicated player could get that in a day. A more reasonable one could probably get it in 3 or 4 days.

Jairlyn.1429:

Disagree.

Your complaint has nothing to do with account bound because you can craft them and you can buy them for gems.

Your complaint is that you think they are too expensive to buy with gold converted to gems.

LOL @ people still not understanding which minis we’re talking about…after 1.5 weeks of forum threads!

Agree with the unbound!

+1

I don’t like RNG and I won’t go through it for the minis that I want. Especially since I am looking for specific ones. I’d like to buy the minis I want from the TP with gold. It’s not a waste of money for Anet to do so because people would see more of a return of investment and purchase RNG. It should never have been RNG + Account bound in the first place. So please make them unbound and let me buy the minis I want!

This thread is referring to the Minis from Wintersday Boxes that some people such as myself have opened 100 boxes and yet to receive all the mini’s.

Disagree

People have used real money to get these special mini pets. If you ain’t gonna try your luck with real money, you ain’t getting these pets. Tough luck but that’s how it is.
If they become un-account bound, they will become buyable with in-game currency and that’s the same as giving the paying users the finger. Get over yourselves people.

Agreed.

Why?
It’s important to make mini-pets into “real collectables” instead of “trophies”.
I’ve not seen any collectable items where you can’t sell nor trade it away in reality.

In reality, all collectables can be auctioned, traded and sold out anytime.
People collect things because they value inflate through time.

That makes collectables prestigeous.
(E.g. Trading card games, anime figures, branded bags and watches.)

The reason why I stop collecting mini-pets anymore because they’re account bound. I can buy them with cash anytime I want but I’m a collector buying collectables, not buying account-bound trophies.

If I bought the cash shop mini-pet, I would be happy to know it costs hundred of gold in TP through time even if I have no intention to sell them in my lifetime. I will know that my mini-pet is a real collectable with value instead of just a side decoration trophy that I bought with money.

Trophy-like items that are account bound should be limited to cosmetic dungeon armors because those are real achievements. There’s no achievement in buying trophy items with real money. Mini-pets are meant to be collectables, so I hope they correct this system as early as possible if they want mini-pets to sell as collectables.

All Mini should be unbound, with the exception of HoM ones.

For one thing, people collect… collectibles IRL often because they grow in value and age, making them more special to them over time. They completely lose value and just don’t feel as important or special when you can’t trade them. You’re just supposed to collect and trade collectibles, and it feels taboo to make these all bound. Like my Celestial Bunny in GW1. Super rare and limited. I’d never trade it cuz I love him but I know that it has value. Makes it a better trophy.

+1

I’d like to sell 2/3 minis I have from forging
I’d also have to agree that all minis, except for rylock, should be account bound

Definitely +1. I think this is honestly the best way to deal with this.

The only reason I was buying minis was so I could collect them and have pets for all occasions. Now that ANet has started making them non-sellable and put them in RL$ gambleboxes, I’m just not interested. If there’s no chance I can fill out my mini collection, why should I bother getting them? Minis don’t actually do anything and they’re inconvenient to use since they’re slow, disappear when you change area, etc.

Jairlyn.1429:

Disagree.

Your complaint has nothing to do with account bound because you can craft them and you can buy them for gems.

Your complaint is that you think they are too expensive to buy with gold converted to gems.

OK, for the 2000th time – there are 2 sets of Wintersday minis.

The Tixx set is craftable and can be bought outright with gems.

The other set is only available through RNG boxes. These are account bound, so you can’t even sell duplicates to buy the ones you want, if your RNG luck is bad you’re just stuck with duplicates or missing some.

L2Read before posting.

nikko.1908:

+1

I’d like to sell 2/3 minis I have from forging
I’d also have to agree that all minis, except for rylock, should be account bound

The OP is actually saying that minis shouldn’t be bound. I think that’s what you’re trying to say too, but your post is missing the ‘not’ in front of ‘account bound’.

+1

I agree all minis including rylock should be trade able even if they are made so that on the first use they become account bound —at least this way we can sell our doubles from the mystery boxes.

Plus people who couldnt afford or were not around at the time they were sold will forever have an empty place in their collection, unless they repeat the same minis each year.

+1

I think they should be unbound and a method of trading duplicates for the desired masterwork mini-pets should be introduced.

Preyar.6783:

Disagree

People have used real money to get these special mini pets. If you ain’t gonna try your luck with real money, you ain’t getting these pets. Tough luck but that’s how it is.
If they become un-account bound, they will become buyable with in-game currency and that’s the same as giving the paying users the finger. Get over yourselves people.

I’ve used 60$ and 96 gold towards these pets, I have 2 festive golems, that’s it. I’m not spending anymore without a “mini-pet trio.” Get over yourself.

Preyar.6783:

Disagree

People have used real money to get these special mini pets. If you ain’t gonna try your luck with real money, you ain’t getting these pets. Tough luck but that’s how it is.
If they become un-account bound, they will become buyable with in-game currency and that’s the same as giving the paying users the finger. Get over yourselves people.

You do understand that the only people initially selling them for gold would be the people who bought them with cash right? So you’re saying those people would essentially be giving themselves the finger?

Frankly, the only finger I see is the one flipped at the people ending up with multiple identical account bound minis that they can’t sell, trade, or even give away.

Manasa Devi.7958:

Preyar.6783:

Disagree

People have used real money to get these special mini pets. If you ain’t gonna try your luck with real money, you ain’t getting these pets. Tough luck but that’s how it is.
If they become un-account bound, they will become buyable with in-game currency and that’s the same as giving the paying users the finger. Get over yourselves people.

You do understand that the only people initially selling them for gold would be the people who bought them with cash right? So you’re saying those people would essentially be giving themselves the finger?

Frankly, the only finger I see is the one flipped at the people ending up with multiple identical account bound minis that they can’t sell, trade, or even give away.

Don’t forget the people who spent 50$ + and still don’t have them all.

Manasa Devi.7958:

Preyar.6783:

Disagree

People have used real money to get these special mini pets. If you ain’t gonna try your luck with real money, you ain’t getting these pets. Tough luck but that’s how it is.
If they become un-account bound, they will become buyable with in-game currency and that’s the same as giving the paying users the finger. Get over yourselves people.

You do understand that the only people initially selling them for gold would be the people who bought them with cash right? So you’re saying those people would essentially be giving themselves the finger?

Frankly, the only finger I see is the one flipped at the people ending up with multiple identical account bound minis that they can’t sell, trade, or even give away.

Ugh, I can see you haven’t used a single penny on this game yet and frankly know nothing about these minis.
Firstly, you can use any combination of said minis to craft the quaggan. So if someone ends up with 3 golems and 2 snowmen, they can trade in 1 snowman and 2 golems to forge the quaggan. If someone got more than 4 of the same mini and didn’t get any of the other 2, I can see your point. I personally got 3 Snowmen.
Secondly, do you really think we will get more than 100g for the quaggan? What do you think the masterwork mini pets would sell for? Nothing. Cash is always worth more than gold. I can understand the people that got all 3 from the first 10 boxes would want them to be un-acccount bound, but what about those who had to get 80 boxes to get them? 10€/$ vs 80€/$…..that’s a big price difference and it will probably be crucial to the gold price too, much to one of the user’s despair. I used 30€ and some gold to get mine. Tough luck(That’s what I think at least). So stop trying to pry in when you in the end just want the minis the cheap and safe way.

Preyar.6783:

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You are making huge generalizations and waving your opinion around as if it were factual. Just because you were very lucky is no reason to say that others’ complaints are invalid. Some people like you get lucky and spend less than the average (average price was $50+) for the minis. Some people spend much more and don’t get any, or don’t get enough, or get all the wrong ones.

This forum really needs a -1 button alongside the +1.

+1 Please god make them unbound. I want to get rid of my ton of multiples.

All minis should be unbound. That’s the whole point of minis to begin with, a trading meta-game like pokemon.

Preyar.6783:

Ugh, I can see you haven’t used a single penny on this game yet and frankly know nothing about these minis.
Firstly, you can use any combination of said minis to craft the quaggan. So if someone ends up with 3 golems and 2 snowmen, they can trade in 1 snowman and 2 golems to forge the quaggan. If someone got more than 4 of the same mini and didn’t get any of the other 2, I can see your point. I personally got 3 Snowmen.
Secondly, do you really think we will get more than 100g for the quaggan? What do you think the masterwork mini pets would sell for? Nothing. Cash is always worth more than gold. I can understand the people that got all 3 from the first 10 boxes would want them to be un-acccount bound, but what about those who had to get 80 boxes to get them? 10€/$ vs 80€/$…..that’s a big price difference and it will probably be crucial to the gold price too, much to one of the user’s despair. I used 30€ and some gold to get mine. Tough luck(That’s what I think at least). So stop trying to pry in when you in the end just want the minis the cheap and safe way.

Well, I’ve seen people post about getting more than 4 of one and none of another. These people want to turn their cash investment into something useful. Yet you somehow seem to think it’s just the people that want to buy these minis with gold that want them unbound.

And you’re wrong about me. I don’t want the minis at all. I don’t want any minis. I’d probably have crafted 2 or 3 of the Tixx toy minis and given them away to people who do care about them if that were possible. But I couldn’t, so I’ve turned my stuffing and glue into just over 12 gold on the TP, merched my cogs for a copper each and destroyed the frames.

I’m pretty frustrated and angry with ANet’s decision on this, screwing out their customers for more money. GF wanted to make me a gift for xmas, sent along 20 gold since the packs are account bound. So what happened I opened the boxes but got multiple minis of the same type (which wasn’t a bad thing) from 10 boxes.

However, thanks to ANet, I can’t share the extras (don’t even bother commenting on the mystic forge). It’s really disgusting how they’re treating their players. I’m really disappointed.

EDIT: And since GW2 is already like a chinese grinding game, adding an “Unbinding Stone” consumable purchasable from the gem store wouldn’t be a bad idea either.

All of the minipets, including rare drops, special rewards, and promotional minipets were all freely able to be traded in Guild Wars. From the Hydra, Mallyx, Livia, Destroyer, Vizu, Oni and so on, all could be traded with no restriction save for Hall of Monuments dedication; even after which they could still be traded. This is really a much simpler issue than most of the things people ask for.

Why are these special pets bound? Well, of course they want money. Any company has to make a profit and that isn’t a bad thing for us or them but, at the same time, this particular method of doing it has found lack of favour with many players. I believe there are better things they could do. One such thing would be to list the minipets, even the time limited pets (for the duration of their time limit), in the store for individual sale as I believe people would be much more likely to spend money on something they know that they’ll get rather than something to gamble and hope that they’ll get. I sincerely believe this is a better way for Arena Net to generate income.

The only minipets that should be bound are the Hall of Monuments rewards as far as I’m concerned. I do not want to lose the ability to make them indefinitely and they are also earned rewards. Anyone can continue to earn them without end. Then we get to the promotional minipets like Rytlock which is a one time reward per account. I see no reason that even it should be bound as we had identical situations in Kuunavang and Varesh in Guild Wars and they continue to be traded to this day.

tl;dr Should minipets be bound? They weren’t in the first game, and I see no reason for it here. It was obviously a strategy to generate income but, as a student of business, I feel that it was a poor one as I believe better methods (for all) are available. In the case of minipets like those in the Hall of Monuments (and should achievement bound earned rewards ever be seen again) they should obviously remain bound.

While I’m here, why were salvage kits and gathering tools bound after launch anyway? I… I don’t understand. Especially since they’re soul bound and not account bound (which many would accept as alternative). I think too many things are getting bound for insufficient reason.

Ezhno.9032:

While I’m here, why were salvage kits and gathering tools bound after launch anyway? I… I don’t understand. Especially since they’re soul bound and not account bound (which many would accept as alternative). I think too many things are getting bound for insufficient reason.

It probably had something to do with them being available for Karma. They don’t ever want a situation where you can turn Karma into Gold (like the exotics, or the food situations).

+1.
I want to be able to at least do something with those 250 worthless cogs in my inventory.