Guild Wars 2

Seriously? Same weapon skins and same minipets as last year…as if the prices weren’t low enough on the TP already…wow.

Not surprised that the GW2 Anet disappoints me yet again. They actually cared and were innovative in GW1..

This gives new players a chance to get things that they would have missed out on as well as old players who also didn’t manage to get all the skins they wanted.
You aren’t owed new skins…

I would love to point out that costume skins were only added to GW1 very late in the games life cycle. Yes holiday events always had new hats, but that was just two hats per holiday which is a lot less difficult than anything GW2 does.

FlamingFoxx.1305:

This gives new players a chance to get things that they would have missed out on as well as old players who also didn’t manage to get all the skins they wanted.
You aren’t owed new skins…

I would love to point out that costume skins were only added to GW1 very late in the games life cycle. Yes holiday events always had new hats, but that was just two hats per holiday which is a lot less difficult than anything GW2 does.

No, I am not owed new skins, but as a loyal customer/player to Anet and Guild Wars, it’s disappointing to see them recycle content instead of giving a unique reward for each year/event like they did in the original Guild Wars.

It was nice that each year had its own sets so those weapons/minis would be unique to the players who participated in them. The TP was already way over-flooded with the Christmas skins from last year; if you really wanted one of those, you could have bought it from there for a few silver, at most.

And even after flipping they where max 11 silver. No need to flush the market even more. This was a really sad day for me.

I don’t want time exclusivity in my games.

They’ve appeased both crowds by having old items return and introduced new skins to go for as well.

There was nothing exclusive about the old skins. Most of them sold on the TP for less than 1 silver.

Shiren.9532:

There was nothing exclusive about the old skins. Most of them sold on the TP for less than 1 silver.

Agreed at least this will motivate most traders not to clean up markets again after a event. Maybe that is exactly what Arenanet wants.

We got enough unique items as it is really. Every single LS event usually comes with an unique item.

Miflett.3472:

I don’t want time exclusivity in my games.

They’ve appeased both crowds by having old items return and introduced new skins to go for as well.

Then why aren’t the achievements back from last year? If I missed the skins and can get those, why can’t I get the achievements if I missed them, too? Sounds like time exclusivity to me… just like the whole living story -_-

Xae Isareth.1364:

We got enough unique items as it is really. Every single LS event usually comes with an unique item.

So why did they not put in the effort for this one? Wintersday is one of, if not the biggest Guild Wars event.

Shiren.9532:

There was nothing exclusive about the old skins. Most of them sold on the TP for less than 1 silver.

Sounds like backwards logic to me.

“The market’s flooded with these skins, so let’s bring back these skins.”

If they didn’t reintroduce skins, in a few years they’d probably actually be worth something.

most of them we’re ugly last year, this year my eyes just burn at the sight. bright side. only a few copper to get the whole collection for those who want it

Are you all referring to the cheap Wintersday skins (Princess Wand, Candy Cane Hammer, Toy Staff, Slingshot, etc.) or those other wooden ones that had the snowflake effect? (Winter skins)

Either way, it’s good that they’re all available again.

It’s been known for a while that a lot of the Wintersday content would be recycled from year to year. This isn’t really new information. It’s how ArenaNet has been handling their holiday events for the past 8 years.

I think it’s great that people that missed the event last year are able to have another shot at it this year. I know some of my friends were unable to do parts of it due to other obligations and they’re overjoyed that they’re going to be able to participate in it this year.

There’s still plenty of new stuff that’s been added to make it worth playing through the content again.

Zedd.8239:

It’s been known for a while that a lot of the Wintersday content would be recycled from year to year. This isn’t really new information. It’s how ArenaNet has been handling their holiday events for the past 8 years.

I think it’s great that people that missed the event last year are able to have another shot at it this year. I know some of my friends were unable to do parts of it due to other obligations and they’re overjoyed that they’re going to be able to participate in it this year.

There’s still plenty of new stuff that’s been added to make it worth playing through the content again.

I have to agree it is good that content is coming back. Although I rather had seen the princess wand skins would not come back. And so different skins where introduced.

Oh, new skins are always nice. I’m certainly not disputing that. At the same time, we did end up getting some new skins in this update (ascended armor plus several new back items). There aren’t new weapon skins but least there’s something new to work towards.

Zedd.8239:

It’s been known for a while that a lot of the Wintersday content would be recycled from year to year. This isn’t really new information. It’s how ArenaNet has been handling their holiday events for the past 8 years.

I think it’s great that people that missed the event last year are able to have another shot at it this year. I know some of my friends were unable to do parts of it due to other obligations and they’re overjoyed that they’re going to be able to participate in it this year.

There’s still plenty of new stuff that’s been added to make it worth playing through the content again.

Yes, Anet has been recycling its holiday events, but they’ve never been lazy enough to recycle the rewards as well.

I’m personally pleased that Wintersday is much the same as last year. I’ve never been a fan of exclusivity. A new player should have the same opportunity to get an item as an older player. The move to allow old event skins buyable via Black Lion Weapon tickets was a stroke of genius, in my opinion. (Which makes it all the more strange that the 2012 Halloween skins weren’t added.)

The old achievements not returning is unfortunate, but I suspect it’s due to the way ANet coded the achievement system; it just can’t be done at this point due to technical reasons. Maybe in the future they’ll find a way to revamp it.

The old skins are nice, but i would have liked something new too. Especially since they still lack many weapon types.

good for new players…..and honestly, we don’t need new skins every update (and they would only be christmas-kitch anyway.

i’d rather they just introduce new skins every few months and make them count (jade dragon quality), than every 2 updates (existing skin w/ new glow).

I’m pleased that the skins are available again. I wish they would have had the old skins available for Mad King also.

Zaxares.5419:

I’m personally pleased that Wintersday is much the same as last year. I’ve never been a fan of exclusivity. A new player should have the same opportunity to get an item as an older player. The move to allow old event skins buyable via Black Lion Weapon tickets was a stroke of genius, in my opinion. (Which makes it all the more strange that the 2012 Halloween skins weren’t added.)

The old achievements not returning is unfortunate, but I suspect it’s due to the way ANet coded the achievement system; it just can’t be done at this point due to technical reasons. Maybe in the future they’ll find a way to revamp it.

If a newer player wants a skin from a previous event, I think they either should have been playing at that time or pay a price on the TP.

The Eternal Grace.3157:

Zaxares.5419:

I’m personally pleased that Wintersday is much the same as last year. I’ve never been a fan of exclusivity. A new player should have the same opportunity to get an item as an older player. The move to allow old event skins buyable via Black Lion Weapon tickets was a stroke of genius, in my opinion. (Which makes it all the more strange that the 2012 Halloween skins weren’t added.)

The old achievements not returning is unfortunate, but I suspect it’s due to the way ANet coded the achievement system; it just can’t be done at this point due to technical reasons. Maybe in the future they’ll find a way to revamp it.

If a newer player wants a skin from a previous event, I think they either should have been playing at that time or pay a price on the TP.

That’s why I said the Black Lion Weapon tickets were a stroke of genius. They’re expensive enough that their “prestige” isn’t destroyed (for those who are concerned about such things), but it allows all players who may not have been around at the time to still have the chance to get it. IMO, all other event skins should get this treatment.

The Eternal Grace.3157:

Seriously? Same weapon skins and same minipets as last year…as if the prices weren’t low enough on the TP already…wow.

Not surprised that the GW2 Anet disappoints me yet again. They actually cared and were innovative in GW1..

We got a new living story update so don’t complain to much

Zaxares.5419:

The Eternal Grace.3157:

Zaxares.5419:

I’m personally pleased that Wintersday is much the same as last year. I’ve never been a fan of exclusivity. A new player should have the same opportunity to get an item as an older player. The move to allow old event skins buyable via Black Lion Weapon tickets was a stroke of genius, in my opinion. (Which makes it all the more strange that the 2012 Halloween skins weren’t added.)

The old achievements not returning is unfortunate, but I suspect it’s due to the way ANet coded the achievement system; it just can’t be done at this point due to technical reasons. Maybe in the future they’ll find a way to revamp it.

If a newer player wants a skin from a previous event, I think they either should have been playing at that time or pay a price on the TP.

That’s why I said the Black Lion Weapon tickets were a stroke of genius. They’re expensive enough that their “prestige” isn’t destroyed (for those who are concerned about such things), but it allows all players who may not have been around at the time to still have the chance to get it. IMO, all other event skins should get this treatment.

I miss the GW1 style of obtaining items…do the work, get the item, and it goes away. Then if you missed it, buy it from players. Not “get lucky, get the item, and have it keep coming back for easy recycle”.

I for one am glad that the skins have returned. I have more characters now than I had last year and thus want more skins too…. I just wish there were skins for every weapon type…

I do agree that I’d have liked to have new skins, but I guess it’s a case of kittened if you do, kittened of you don’t. In the halloween event they introduced new skins and most of the old ones didn’t return… and there was a complaint fest on forums from people that were hoping to get the old skins this year.

Put old skins only, get complains about beimg recycled content, put new skins only, get complains from people that couldn’t get then the previous year, put both, and they’d set a precedent where people will expext both every event, which could become an organizational problem when so many skins become available at once few years down thebroad.

locoman.1974:

put both, and they’d set a precedent where people will expext both every event, which could become an organizational problem when so many skins become available at once few years down thebroad.

No, that doesn’t have to be… We have 8 skins now (sword, scepter, dagger, focus, hammer, rifle, short bow and staff). They could have added a few more (axe, longbow, greatsword, etc) and kept the old ones too.

So, not new skins for the same weapons, but new skins for the missing ones.

I’m not going to discuss the skins because I’m not sure how I feel about that choice. However f my memory serves me it was not possible, even with trading to get all of the minis last year. So for mini collecting completionists those at least had to return.

Wiz.1543:

And even after flipping they where max 11 silver. No need to flush the market even more. This was a really sad day for me.

Exactly why should ANet or anyone here care if you can use new or old item releases to make TP profits? Something here IS very sad.

I just wish the policy on holiday skins was consistent. We have Halloween skins (both weapons and armor) that did not return, and now we have the Wintersday skins which are returning.

I’m not saying one way or the other is better, but it’d be interesting to know why the various holiday skins are being treated differently.

Surprised no one has pointed out that the OP got new skins. 3 count them, 3 new back piece skins. One of which is not tied to a random number generator. Also a new full set of armor for all 3 weight classes. I know hes upset about not getting new weapons skins this year, but I didnt see anyone complaining about not getting new armor and back piece skins last year. Perspective; it really is everything.

Vick.6805:

I just wish the policy on holiday skins was consistent. We have Halloween skins (both weapons and armor) that did not return, and now we have the Wintersday skins which are returning.

I’m not saying one way or the other is better, but it’d be interesting to know why the various holiday skins are being treated differently.

I don’t know why people keep comparing the two. They’re different types of skins.

The Halloween skins were RNG skins from Black Lion chests. Gem Store stuff (well, mostly gem store, aside from the extremely rare key drop from story missions or loot). The only Halloween items that were not Gem Store RNG were the 3 craftable weapons. And those did “return” (never really left, actually).

The “toy” Wintersday weapons were never Gem Store skins. They were always in the gifts or tradable via ugly items.

The more valid comparison would be the old Halloween skins and the Gem Store Wintersday skins (the wooden “Winters X” skins). And there is somewhat of a discrepancy there, since the Wintersday skins were added to the Weapon Specialist months ago (for 5 tickets, a price which didn’t change for Wintersday this year) and yet the Halloween weapons never appeared. Why that is, who knows. Not that it really has any bearing on the discussion at hand regarding the Toy weapons.

They also might add more things in closer to the holiday. I don’t believe we’ll have six weeks with nothing new at all.

I haven’t checked since patch start, though — is there any way to get the Winter’s weapons other than paying 5 tickets each to the Trader (or, of course, paying on the TP for a skin someone else spent 5 tickets on). I really expected those to go to 1 ticket for the event’s duration. Or at least for there to be new ones in the theme for those weapons not covered, and -those- to be 1 ticket.

FlamingFoxx.1305:

This gives new players a chance to get things that they would have missed out on as well as old players who also didn’t manage to get all the skins they wanted.
You aren’t owed new skins…

I would love to point out that costume skins were only added to GW1 very late in the games life cycle. Yes holiday events always had new hats, but that was just two hats per holiday which is a lot less difficult than anything GW2 does.

wtf are you talking about, all the skins are tradable items and wore available in the TP during the whole year for less than 1 silver.

Savoy.6824:

Surprised no one has pointed out that the OP got new skins. 3 count them, 3 new back piece skins. One of which is not tied to a random number generator. Also a new full set of armor for all 3 weight classes. I know hes upset about not getting new weapons skins this year, but I didnt see anyone complaining about not getting new armor and back piece skins last year. Perspective; it really is everything.

But the new skins and armor sets are not related to Wintersday. Some of us really enjoy the themed stuff for holidays, and I’ll admit I was disappointed to not see anything new this year.

Donari.5237:

They also might add more things in closer to the holiday. I don’t believe we’ll have six weeks with nothing new at all.

I haven’t checked since patch start, though — is there any way to get the Winter’s weapons other than paying 5 tickets each to the Trader (or, of course, paying on the TP for a skin someone else spent 5 tickets on). I really expected those to go to 1 ticket for the event’s duration. Or at least for there to be new ones in the theme for those weapons not covered, and -those- to be 1 ticket.

I got a bell focus skin in one of the Giant gifts yesterday. Last year I ended up with about 2-3 of each skin (most of which are still sitting in my bank).

Meanwhile there has been at least one ingame acquirable cosmetic reward for every 2 week content patch, for half a year and it’s still going on, and will be all next year coupled with several gem store sets.

Honestly, I prefer getting new shiny things for the majority of patches rather than the minority.

Relshdan.6854:

good for new players…..and honestly, we don’t need new skins every update (and they would only be christmas-kitch anyway.

i’d rather they just introduce new skins every few months and make them count (jade dragon quality), than every 2 updates (existing skin w/ new glow).

Jade dragon quality? You want similarly colored weapons that look as though they where made to be put in a dollar general store, and have a tacky dragon worked into every model? Dear god I hope that isn’t the highest quality Anet holds themselves to.

FlamingFoxx.1305:

This gives new players a chance to get things that they would have missed out on as well as old players who also didn’t manage to get all the skins they wanted.

Reusing the skins has nothing to do with letting people get “what they missed” or we’d have the same things happening with Halloween. It’s because they need to shift devs over to work on other things. that’s it.

Savoy.6824:

Surprised no one has pointed out that the OP got new skins. 3 count them, 3 new back piece skins. One of which is not tied to a random number generator. Also a new full set of armor for all 3 weight classes. I know hes upset about not getting new weapons skins this year, but I didnt see anyone complaining about not getting new armor and back piece skins last year. Perspective; it really is everything.

Because what we need is more back pieces, right?

It isn’t about not getting new skins, it’s about recycling old ones.

Dempsey.8760:

Relshdan.6854:

good for new players…..and honestly, we don’t need new skins every update (and they would only be christmas-kitch anyway.

i’d rather they just introduce new skins every few months and make them count (jade dragon quality), than every 2 updates (existing skin w/ new glow).

Jade dragon quality? You want similarly colored weapons that look as though they where made to be put in a dollar general store, and have a tacky dragon worked into every model? Dear god I hope that isn’t the highest quality Anet holds themselves to.

I agree. Personally, I hated the jade dragon skins.

I don’t mind at all the reuse of old content – it’s actually pretty refreshing to see the improvements they make to everything and the new additions. However, if Anet wants me to keep playing, I do ask that they release new skins/achievements each year and not recycle old ones.

FlamingFoxx.1305:

This gives new players a chance to get things that they would have missed out on as well as old players who also didn’t manage to get all the skins they wanted.
You aren’t owed new skins…

I would love to point out that costume skins were only added to GW1 very late in the games life cycle. Yes holiday events always had new hats, but that was just two hats per holiday which is a lot less difficult than anything GW2 does.

Then they should’ve returned the old Halloween skin’s as well. But they didn’t and those were far better than Wintersday. I always enjoyed Wintersday to the fullest but this year I can’t even say “meh”.

The Eternal Grace.3157:

Savoy.6824:

Surprised no one has pointed out that the OP got new skins. 3 count them, 3 new back piece skins. One of which is not tied to a random number generator. Also a new full set of armor for all 3 weight classes. I know hes upset about not getting new weapons skins this year, but I didnt see anyone complaining about not getting new armor and back piece skins last year. Perspective; it really is everything.

Because what we need is more back pieces, right?

It isn’t about not getting new skins, it’s about recycling old ones.

Ok, so if no one wants new skins then whats the problem with them reusing old skins. And how did you miss the other 18 new skins they released with this patch for armor. Just because some people dont like them doesnt make them not count. And for those complaining about not getting christmas skins that light of dwana sure looks like a christmas skin.

QQ all you want but the fact of the matter is we got more skins per capita with this patch than any other patch to date. Also there have been tons of patches that released new weapons skins in the past, its about time we got some armor, especially since the last patches light armor got repealed for the time being.

Man, logic sure sucks doesnt it, it makes everyone on here whinning sound like a bunch of idiots.

Savoy.6824:

And how did you miss the other 18 new skins they released with this patch for armor. Just because some people dont like them doesnt make them not count.

Those skins aren’t Christmas skins, they’re skins that could have been thrown into any update and they just had them ready by this one. It doesn’t not make them count as skins, but it doesn’t count as Christmas skins.

Savoy.6824:

Man, logic sure sucks doesnt it, it makes everyone on here whinning sound like a bunch of idiots.

You’re right, logic does suck! Why are the 5 minis and Christmas weapons the only thing available again? Why not the achievements from last year?

I totally forgot about the fact that the skins were only a few silver each because the market was so over-flooded from last year…it’s perfectly logical that Anet brings back items that were already over-flooded in the market…duh! How could I be so foolish?

/sarcasm

Honestly, I think it’s the trolls that don’t use punctuation and misspell that sound like a bunch of idiots.

i wanted a pop pistol skin ):