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Posted by: Zordan.7659

Zordan.7659

My suggestion would be that the popular YouTube Lore Guru WoodenPotatoes receives and ingame representation of his character, akin to Siegemaster Dulfy, in honor of his extensive work in summarizing the events of GW 1, making tutorial videos and his ongoing record keeping of the Guild Wars 2 lore.

For those who don’t know who WoodenPotatoes is, I want to direct you to his YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/WoodenPotatoes/videos?view=1&flow=grid

If you know WP, or just heard about his channel for the first time, and agree with this, please show some support to let Anet know.

I made a reddit post about the same topic beforehand and it got a lot of support basically in an instant: http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1k7tvx/petition_ingame_representation_of_woodenpotatoes/

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Posted by: ascalo.7136

ascalo.7136

Hell yeah +1.

I missed from Wintersday to Dragon bash and his recap video was helpful. His GW2 mysteries also interest me alot and most of them have a good chance of being true. I’d love one of his theories to be followed up on in-game and would love to see him in-game as a reference even as a literal wooden potato(as said in the reddit thread).

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Posted by: Lynx Rufus Californicus.2958

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Maybe make him a sylvari?

I like the overall idea.

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Posted by: Jland.3874

Jland.3874

I wholeheartedly agree. His videos are how I get my guildies interested in the lore. He should be a member of the priory.

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Posted by: Keran Lors.8560

Keran Lors.8560

I couldn’t agree more with this idea. I hope we will soon be able to see him in game!

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Posted by: Andele.1306

Andele.1306

Maybe make him a sylvari?

I like the overall idea.

Obviously a Inquest asura lementalist or human mesmer.

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Posted by: Routine.6194

Routine.6194

Hell yes, if it wasn’t for Mr Potatoes I wouldn’t give two kittens about Guild Wars lore.

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Posted by: graywing.6125

graywing.6125

Great idea, count me in!

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Posted by: feldspar.8345

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Signed with enthusiasm!

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Posted by: sphonz.3129

sphonz.3129

Yes! An NPC representing him ingame who tells you about lore would be fantastic. They could go even further and create an event for him and reward you with a piece of lore or a book.

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Posted by: Hagger.6854

Hagger.6854

Absolutely! Agreed! WP is a really great supporter of the Guild Wars community. I remember when I first got into his videos. He had a series that covered a ton of different aspects of lore from the original Guild Wars. This actually got me excited about the lore and even led me to going back and playing through some of the expansions I had not touched!

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Posted by: Vlox.4792

Vlox.4792

Signed! he deserves it:)

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Posted by: Blacknasty.3641

Blacknasty.3641

I don’t think I would have the same appreciation for the game if it weren’t for Wooden Potatoes.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

I’m sorry but no.

He doesn’t really present anything new. He takes theories and speculation that’s spreading through the community and simply represents it. He often gets his facts wrong and is less accurate than the official wikis by far in his presentation of “facts” – often mixing in theory with facts.

I get that he’s been helpful in spreading lore to the larger community but that’s all he does, and it’s not a big thing either in the long run. Few if any of “his” theories he presents are actually his, and worse yet is that the people who watch his videos so fervently mistakenly believe what he says as truthful without question or believe his theories hold no counter points. Because of him there was a huge long-termed speculation that the Pale Tree is an Elder Dragon/dragon champion – but there’s FAR more countering this than supporting. And in his recent thread he presented a theory without any counter points to it about Kiel being an Aetherblade and the Aetherblades being from the future (ergo, Kiel’s from the future) – except that we have short stories that outright prove him wrong from the get go.

If people who actually put time and effort to make original and solid theories get nothing in the game, then the same should go to WP. I see no reason why he should be given special treatment over others who’ve been in the community far longer with far more (properly given) credibility to their name.

As far as I see, all WP does is make those who don’t look into the lore on their own accord get a mistaken and skewed – partial at best – view of the game’s lore.

And not to sound conceted or anything, but I’ve been in the community longer (at least actively), have moderated multiple forums, been a long time and huge wiki editor, part of the Test Krewe, and far far more, gotten a reputation as “lore guru/god/etc.” (which I’m not too fond of the last but meh it happened), but I don’t have an NPC. Why should someone who merely acts as a spokesperson in video format (often the video not being entirely relevant at all) be given an NPC over others who’s done FAR more to the community and to ArenaNet itself?

(Side note: no, I’m not wanting an NPC – I’d be ecstatic if I get one, but I don’t want nor need one).

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.

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Posted by: Xayah.7138

Xayah.7138

Count me in! I had the honor of working with him on a GW lore video as an artist and he totally deserves it with the amount of work and dedication he puts in to his videos.

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Posted by: York.5361

York.5361

He doesn’t really present anything new. He takes theories and speculation that’s spreading through the community and simply represents it.

I don’t see how you could possibly do a video like these with out speculating in some way. There are a lot of little facts and conversations and things that appear throughout the game(s) that combine together to make a narrative. All that stuff is weaved together in your own head though. So when talking about the history of the game of course it’s the history as he sees it. That is the entire point.

I personally love the lore of the Guild Wars universe, but I don’t have the time to go back and play through Guild Wars 1 and I don’t have the ability to replay the Living Story. So it’s nice to at least be able to get someone else’s interpretation of events that I missed or don’t have time to play through.

If you don’t think his interpretation is spot on you should make lore videos yourself! That’s the sort of content some people cant get enough of.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

John, you misunderstand. It’s not that he does speculation – it’s that he gets his facts wrong and gives people a false understanding of the lore. And the worse part is how people don’t look things up for themselves leaving them believing WP is accurate and his speculation mixed-into-truth is fact. I can no longer count how many times I’ve had to correct people in the lore forums because they went “no this is the case, not what you guys are saying, here’s a video proving it! -links WP video-” and it was, in fact, the video that was wrong.

He’s gotten better about splitting speculation from fact if his latest video is anything to go by, but he still has a long ways to go and he still has several errors in every video I’ve seen.

Getting someone else’s interpretation is fine and all, but he’s presenting “facts” that aren’t facts.

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.

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Posted by: York.5361

York.5361

I would argue that he does much more to help than hurt people’s understanding of the lore Konig. However that being said, I don’t necessarily disagree with anything you’re saying. But let’s not derail the thread.

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Posted by: Nuudoru.4217

Nuudoru.4217

I never bothered about the story in living story since I had missed so much, but his recap really helped me out. Now I can finally play and appreciate the story. WoodenPotatoes deserves this!

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Posted by: Baal.8643

Baal.8643

I approve! Also, I know the perfect voice actor for him!

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Posted by: KOPPER.1458

KOPPER.1458

1000% signed. I love his work. Without him I am not sure I would understand and or appreciate the lore of GW2 like I do. Plus he has a passion for the game, it’s refreshing to see and hear on a constant basis.

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Posted by: TyranosEH.3768

TyranosEH.3768

Absolutely, he deserves it!

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Posted by: Lonami.2987

Lonami.2987

I’m sorry but no.

He doesn’t really present anything new. He takes theories and speculation that’s spreading through the community and simply represents it. He often gets his facts wrong and is less accurate than the official wikis by far in his presentation of “facts” – often mixing in theory with facts.

I get that he’s been helpful in spreading lore to the larger community but that’s all he does, and it’s not a big thing either in the long run. Few if any of “his” theories he presents are actually his, and worse yet is that the people who watch his videos so fervently mistakenly believe what he says as truthful without question or believe his theories hold no counter points. Because of him there was a huge long-termed speculation that the Pale Tree is an Elder Dragon/dragon champion – but there’s FAR more countering this than supporting. And in his recent thread he presented a theory without any counter points to it about Kiel being an Aetherblade and the Aetherblades being from the future (ergo, Kiel’s from the future) – except that we have short stories that outright prove him wrong from the get go.

If people who actually put time and effort to make original and solid theories get nothing in the game, then the same should go to WP. I see no reason why he should be given special treatment over others who’ve been in the community far longer with far more (properly given) credibility to their name.

As far as I see, all WP does is make those who don’t look into the lore on their own accord get a mistaken and skewed – partial at best – view of the game’s lore.

And not to sound conceted or anything, but I’ve been in the community longer (at least actively), have moderated multiple forums, been a long time and huge wiki editor, part of the Test Krewe, and far far more, gotten a reputation as “lore guru/god/etc.” (which I’m not too fond of the last but meh it happened), but I don’t have an NPC. Why should someone who merely acts as a spokesperson in video format (often the video not being entirely relevant at all) be given an NPC over others who’s done FAR more to the community and to ArenaNet itself?

(Side note: no, I’m not wanting an NPC – I’d be ecstatic if I get one, but I don’t want nor need one).

Million times this.

In my opinion, WoodenPotatoes is pretty overrated, specially from people lazy to check stuff ingame and that use him as their only source of lore. I haven’t found anything special or relevant on his videos that isn’t in major lore discussion places or the wiki.

All the sixth dragon and Thaumanova theories have been posted for a long time ago in different places, but some people treat him like a god that discovered all of that by himself.

His lore videos are “good” for people that doesn’t pay attention to lore, but they aren’t good. Any discussion on the lore forum is usually better than what he delivers in his videos.

He does an ok job, which gets way too overrated. Dulfy’s work is years away from what him or anyone else has done for the community.

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Posted by: Emmet.2943

Emmet.2943

Ya he does a lot of good work, while not always right, it has gotten tons of people interested in the story and world of gw2. His video on the living story has gotten tons of people back into gw2 as they actually get what’s going on and appreciate the living story so much more because of it. I don’t see that many in the community doing as much work as him when it comes to trying to get people interested in the world behind guild wars.

Konig the lore of guild wars is huge anyone trying to cover all of it will make mistakes especially if they are doing it every other day like in his dailies(in video form so he is researching, recording, then editing). He does admit to mistakes when shown them and has even gone to make sure he explains his mistakes in comment or another video. Also like you said he is getting better probably due to knowing he makes tons of mistakes and trying to minimize this. The important thing is he is trying to show more people this world so they themselves can look deeper into it and appreciate it more and not many people are doing as much as he is. He is even starting a podcast with mattvisual that covers all parts of the game.

Although I personally don’t really care if he gets one or not. Woodenpotatos, dulfy, and all the others started doing the things they do so people could appreciate the game more and/or for their own enjoyment.

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Posted by: Kal Spiro.9745

Kal Spiro.9745

John, you misunderstand. It’s not that he does speculation – it’s that he gets his facts wrong and gives people a false understanding of the lore. And the worse part is how people don’t look things up for themselves leaving them believing WP is accurate and his speculation mixed-into-truth is fact. I can no longer count how many times I’ve had to correct people in the lore forums because they went “no this is the case, not what you guys are saying, here’s a video proving it! -links WP video-” and it was, in fact, the video that was wrong.

He’s gotten better about splitting speculation from fact if his latest video is anything to go by, but he still has a long ways to go and he still has several errors in every video I’ve seen.

Getting someone else’s interpretation is fine and all, but he’s presenting “facts” that aren’t facts.

I’m sorry, but if you’re going to imply he’s directly misrepresenting something, you’re going to have to point out specifics. You’re apparently a Lore Guru, so it should be very simple.

I would also like to say, no fair calling out his mysteries and theorizing videos, because regardless of how the ignorant masses may take it he has never said this is how it is. When ever he is speculating he always qualifies it before hand. He doesn’t always come up with stuff on his own, but he does mention that he’s read the theory and is running with it, and he has links in his text.

That aside, I don’t agree with the OP. I love his videos, and really wish he’d finish the GW1 Lore videos, but I don’t see how that warrants some kind of ingame recognition. He has characters ingame already, that should be good enough.

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Posted by: Gmr Leon.1846

Gmr Leon.1846

I’m sorry but no.


He doesn’t really present anything new. He takes theories and speculation that’s spreading through the community and simply represents it. He often gets his facts wrong and is less accurate than the official wikis by far in his presentation of “facts” – often mixing in theory with facts.

I get that he’s been helpful in spreading lore to the larger community but that’s all he does, and it’s not a big thing either in the long run. Few if any of “his” theories he presents are actually his, and worse yet is that the people who watch his videos so fervently mistakenly believe what he says as truthful without question or believe his theories hold no counter points. Because of him there was a huge long-termed speculation that the Pale Tree is an Elder Dragon/dragon champion – but there’s FAR more countering this than supporting. And in his recent thread he presented a theory without any counter points to it about Kiel being an Aetherblade and the Aetherblades being from the future (ergo, Kiel’s from the future) – except that we have short stories that outright prove him wrong from the get go.

If people who actually put time and effort to make original and solid theories get nothing in the game, then the same should go to WP. I see no reason why he should be given special treatment over others who’ve been in the community far longer with far more (properly given) credibility to their name.

As far as I see, all WP does is make those who don’t look into the lore on their own accord get a mistaken and skewed – partial at best – view of the game’s lore.

And not to sound conceted or anything, but I’ve been in the community longer (at least actively), have moderated multiple forums, been a long time and huge wiki editor, part of the Test Krewe, and far far more, gotten a reputation as “lore guru/god/etc.” (which I’m not too fond of the last but meh it happened), but I don’t have an NPC. Why should someone who merely acts as a spokesperson in video format (often the video not being entirely relevant at all) be given an NPC over others who’s done FAR more to the community and to ArenaNet itself?

(Side note: no, I’m not wanting an NPC – I’d be ecstatic if I get one, but I don’t want nor need one).

What Konig said. I can’t speak for Konig, but I’ve actually collaborated with WoodenPotatoes in the past, trying to help him fact check for some of his videos (e.g. he would exchange parts of his script with me over PM and ask if they seemed right for a time, until I reduced my forum activity for RL stuff), and he definitely tries to be accurate where possible. However, I think it’s entirely valid to point out that he doesn’t necessarily contribute any more than either Konig or myself have contributed (either now or, in my case, in the past).

Yet neither Konig nor myself have (albeit I like to speculate the asura Gor is a NPC version of myself, due to my major theories on the Mists [Mists and Magic as well as Mists and World/Planetary Formation]) NPCs in GW2.

Edit: As a completely off-topic sidenote, man Guru’s changes botched my formatting…And removed my awful example images. It’s a mixed blessing, for you guys!

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Posted by: WeissKanin.1975

WeissKanin.1975

I can totally get behind this! WoodenPotatoes’ Guild Wars 2 Daily videos really helped hype me up for the games release. And his Gw2 Lore videos has me wanting to jump on Guild Wars 2 more often because he put so much passion and intrigue into his videos. Just the other day I was running around the Thaumanova Reactor doing the event there while listening to his Gw2 Mysteries on that place.

I can totally see him as an Asura for the Priory or Order of Whispers. Priory for the history of Tyria or Whispers for the secrets of Tyria. Either works for me. WoodenPotatoes does a awesome job at both current lore and speculation for future lore.

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Posted by: Keenan.6724

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I agree with this and must say I strongly disagree with Konig Des Todes and Lonami. I think both individuals are confusing WoodenPotatoes role in the GW2 community as a ‘lore specialist’ when in fact his emphasis is community outreach. Since both are keen on backing up their claims, I will point to WoodenPotatoes many other video contributions (let’s plays, jumping puzzles, learn to PvP, and introductions to tPvP, and summaries of GW1 storylines) as suggesting that he is more broadly interested in keeping the community engaged rather than perfectly informed on the many details of Tyrian lore. I think a strong analogy is the difference between a Scientist and a Science Writer. The scientist is the expert that provides original contributions and knows the very ins and outs of their subject. Like an expert in a field, Konig Des Todes is claiming that many other lore experts are better informed on a particular subject than WoodenPotatoes, and thus they would be more deserving of an honor. However, that misses the point. WP does not claim to be any form of an expert (oftentimes admitting so in his videos). WP’s role is to disseminate any and all forms of GW2 knowledge to as many people as possible in hopes that the community stays active. Dulfy does the very same thing. She brings together widespread information and distills it into one easy to find place, so that users can share, discuss, and experience the game more easily.

If you want to argue that people who perform this task are not worthy of recognition you are free to do so, but claiming that WP has not contributed significantly to the community because he’s not lore-perfect is something I disagree with.

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Posted by: Complete the Circuit.5730

Complete the Circuit.5730

Definitely in support of this. Without him and his videos, I wouldn’t even be playing Guild Wars at all. He deserves a lot more credit than he gets and is always so modest about his contribution, it would be wonderful to see something given back to him, however big or small.

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Posted by: DymondHed.9026

DymondHed.9026

so much yes! i totally agree!!

i have too many hours logged >_>

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Posted by: newzac.5783

newzac.5783

WoodenPotatoes has a unique way of fitting everything together, and without him, I’d be lost on the overall picture of Guild Wars 2 and even the Guild Wars universe as a whole.. I love lore, but unfortunately the dynamic events system, Arenanet’s delivery of story, etc., makes it really hard to see how the tiny pieces fit together. WP does that for the community, and every time I watch one of his videos, I come away feeling more positively toward the lore and the game.

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Posted by: Gmr Leon.1846

Gmr Leon.1846


I agree with this and must say I strongly disagree with Konig Des Todes and Lonami. I think both individuals are confusing WoodenPotatoes role in the GW2 community as a ‘lore specialist’ when in fact his emphasis is community outreach. Since both are keen on backing up their claims, I will point to WoodenPotatoes many other video contributions (let’s plays, jumping puzzles, learn to PvP, and introductions to tPvP, and summaries of GW1 storylines) as suggesting that he is more broadly interested in keeping the community engaged rather than perfectly informed on the many details of Tyrian lore. I think a strong analogy is the difference between a Scientist and a Science Writer. The scientist is the expert that provides original contributions and knows the very ins and outs of their subject. Like an expert in a field, Konig Des Todes is claiming that many other lore experts are better informed on a particular subject than WoodenPotatoes, and thus they would be more deserving of an honor. However, that misses the point. WP does not claim to be any form of an expert (oftentimes admitting so in his videos). WP’s role is to disseminate any and all forms of GW2 knowledge to as many people as possible in hopes that the community stays active. Dulfy does the very same thing. She brings together widespread information and distills it into one easy to find place, so that users can share, discuss, and experience the game more easily.

If you want to argue that people who perform this task are not worthy of recognition you are free to do so, but claiming that WP has not contributed significantly to the community because he’s not lore-perfect is something I disagree with.

If it’s for community outreach or something, sure, why not? We’ve seen similarish things happen. I think the biggest point of contention here is over whether it should be for lore, which you neatly sidestep by looking at the bigger picture.

Edit:…wait, I should be angry about this. I’m the one who got the ball rolling with all the recordkeeping, darn it! I started the archives, the most absurd project ever for the lore community to make it easier to keep track of theories and speculation, which through collaboration with Konig we ensured carried forward to the more popular GW forums.

Ahaha, nah though, it’s all cool.

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Posted by: Aden Celeste.3650

Aden Celeste.3650

I am a fan of his videos, and yes he should be in the game, Heck, he should work for Anet and they can benefit from his expositions of Lore. +1

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Posted by: Kriknav.9268

Kriknav.9268

I’m on board and would love to see this. His work has been very influential in my Guild Wars experience and I continue to watch all his videos.

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Posted by: Keenan.6724

Keenan.6724


I agree with this and must say I strongly disagree with Konig Des Todes and Lonami. I think both individuals are confusing WoodenPotatoes role in the GW2 community as a ‘lore specialist’ when in fact his emphasis is community outreach. Since both are keen on backing up their claims, I will point to WoodenPotatoes many other video contributions (let’s plays, jumping puzzles, learn to PvP, and introductions to tPvP, and summaries of GW1 storylines) as suggesting that he is more broadly interested in keeping the community engaged rather than perfectly informed on the many details of Tyrian lore. I think a strong analogy is the difference between a Scientist and a Science Writer. The scientist is the expert that provides original contributions and knows the very ins and outs of their subject. Like an expert in a field, Konig Des Todes is claiming that many other lore experts are better informed on a particular subject than WoodenPotatoes, and thus they would be more deserving of an honor. However, that misses the point. WP does not claim to be any form of an expert (oftentimes admitting so in his videos). WP’s role is to disseminate any and all forms of GW2 knowledge to as many people as possible in hopes that the community stays active. Dulfy does the very same thing. She brings together widespread information and distills it into one easy to find place, so that users can share, discuss, and experience the game more easily.

If you want to argue that people who perform this task are not worthy of recognition you are free to do so, but claiming that WP has not contributed significantly to the community because he’s not lore-perfect is something I disagree with.

If it’s for community outreach or something, sure, why not? We’ve seen similarish things happen. I think the biggest point of contention here is over whether it should be for lore, which you neatly sidestep by looking at the bigger picture.

Edit:…wait, I should be angry about this. I’m the one who got the ball rolling with all the recordkeeping, darn it! I started the archives, the most absurd project ever for the lore community to make it easier to keep track of theories and speculation, which through collaboration with Konig we ensured carried forward to the more popular GW forums.

Ahaha, nah though, it’s all cool.

And if that significantly smaller subset of the overall GW2 community wants to petition for your recognition, they are welcome to do so. Obviously your contributions aren’t as far-reaching as those of WoodenPotatoes’, even if you happen to be a bigger fan of yourself than him.
Also, I did not sidestep any issue. The original post acknowledges WP for his ‘extensive work in summarizing the events of GW 1, making tutorial videos and his ongoing record keeping of the Guild Wars 2 lore.’ Clearly you’ve latched onto the lore aspect of the post, because that’s the part where you feel that you are superior to WP. However, you seem to have ignored the full extent of the original post by not seeing that the community members in this thread are also acknowledging his tutorials and GW1 summaries.
You can be as angry as you’d like, but it doesn’t take away from the fact that WP’s efforts are obviously being acknowledged by the community.

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Posted by: Aphra.7426

Aphra.7426

100% support this. He does a great job of keeping me engaged in the game and fascinated in the living story. He is a fantastic storyteller and because of him I’m obsessed with the world of Tyria.

I love his series and he find his insight into the gw2 community, fair, empathetic, interesting and caring. I once sent him an ingame mail to thank him for his guild wars storyline videos as they helped me gain a greater understanding of the world gw2 was born from and he sent me a lovely reply – he is a positive force in the community!

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Posted by: KOPPER.1458

KOPPER.1458

Konig Des Todes and Lonami:

Lets start with that neither WP or any of you are asking for an NPC. Other community members are asking for it, or rather suggesting that it would be a cool or fun idea.

Perhaps both of you have been active and know more than WP when it comes to lore. I don’t know to be honest and it doesn’t really matter. Here is what I do know. WP provides lore in a fun easy to listen to environment that is easy to access without hours of digging and or reading.

I am sure you’ll just assume I am lazy and therefore dismiss me or anything I have to say. Which is ok. But is that the attitude you want to put forward to get more players interested in the lore? Because that is the feeling and attitude that you get on lore forums.

I would love for either of you to put your knowledge into video format and throw it up on youtube or wherever. I will watch it I promise you, and I know I wouldn’t be alone. Players are hungry for GW lore.

Dulfy provides great walkthroughs for those who need them, sometimes way too early in my opinion (even before a patch is released, which I am surprised anet lets her do). Her site is very popular for that reason.

“However, I think it’s entirely valid to point out that he doesn’t necessarily contribute any more than either Konig or myself have contributed (either now or, in my case, in the past).”

Would you say that you and Konig have reached a larger audience than WP? Because that is what it comes down to at the end of the day. At least for most people it does. Also I am not sure that anyone is saying he contribute more than either of you. Although both of you seem to have taken it that way.

“And not to sound conceted or anything, but I’ve been in the community longer (at least actively), have moderated multiple forums, been a long time and huge wiki editor, part of the Test Krewe, and far far more, gotten a reputation as “lore guru/god/etc.” (which I’m not too fond of the last but meh it happened), but I don’t have an NPC.”

You realize that after you wrote “And not to sound conceted” that everything that followed was fairly conceted? That is like saying “I don’t mean offence” and then you say something offensive.

What does most of that stuff have to do with the suggestion at hand? Being a moderator? really? Length in community doesn’t hold much weight either. Like I said above it’s about how many you can reach not how much you know. How you inspire others to want to learn about the lore and be excited about it.

Players love to speculate, is it a surprise that those video gain some traction then? I don’t think so. It’s not about being right when it comes to a mystery. The fun is in speculating. He has plenty of factual lore videos. I am sure there are some places where the info is skewed.

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Posted by: Leo G.4501

Leo G.4501

If nothing else, he and his team made really nice video ‘line-by-line’ summaries of the GW1 history for those that don’t have the chance to experience those story lines while also bringing excitement to play and learn about the story of GW2.

As far as misinforming, that’s only if you don’t read the titles of the videos. Whether putting video to words is deemable of commemorating in game is wholly another argument. I wouldn’t be against a mention of a player being nodded to in-game, but that name cannot put in the game. Not even a Sylvari would be presentable with the name ‘Wooden Potatoes’.

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Posted by: Kal Spiro.9745

Kal Spiro.9745


Konig Des Todes and Lonami:

Lets start with that neither WP or any of you are asking for an NPC. Other community members are asking for it, or rather suggesting that it would be a cool or fun idea.

Perhaps both of you have been active and know more than WP when it comes to lore. I don’t know to be honest and it doesn’t really matter. Here is what I do know. WP provides lore in a fun easy to listen to environment that is easy to access without hours of digging and or reading.

I am sure you’ll just assume I am lazy and therefore dismiss me or anything I have to say. Which is ok. But is that the attitude you want to put forward to get more players interested in the lore? Because that is the feeling and attitude that you get on lore forums.

I would love for either of you to put your knowledge into video format and throw it up on youtube or wherever. I will watch it I promise you, and I know I wouldn’t be alone. Players are hungry for GW lore.

Dulfy provides great walkthroughs for those who need them, sometimes way too early in my opinion (even before a patch is released, which I am surprised anet lets her do). Her site is very popular for that reason.

“However, I think it’s entirely valid to point out that he doesn’t necessarily contribute any more than either Konig or myself have contributed (either now or, in my case, in the past).”

Would you say that you and Konig have reached a larger audience than WP? Because that is what it comes down to at the end of the day. At least for most people it does. Also I am not sure that anyone is saying he contribute more than either of you. Although both of you seem to have taken it that way.

“And not to sound conceted or anything, but I’ve been in the community longer (at least actively), have moderated multiple forums, been a long time and huge wiki editor, part of the Test Krewe, and far far more, gotten a reputation as “lore guru/god/etc.” (which I’m not too fond of the last but meh it happened), but I don’t have an NPC.”

You realize that after you wrote “And not to sound conceted” that everything that followed was fairly conceted? That is like saying “I don’t mean offence” and then you say something offensive.

What does most of that stuff have to do with the suggestion at hand? Being a moderator? really? Length in community doesn’t hold much weight either. Like I said above it’s about how many you can reach not how much you know. How you inspire others to want to learn about the lore and be excited about it.

Players love to speculate, is it a surprise that those video gain some traction then? I don’t think so. It’s not about being right when it comes to a mystery. The fun is in speculating. He has plenty of factual lore videos. I am sure there are some places where the info is skewed.

All of the above. It’s a nomination, not a personal declaration of superiority. That’s what you guys are presenting, and it sounds more like jealous whining than reasoned arguments.

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Posted by: Zlociutki.9165

Zlociutki.9165

Legendary Champion WoodenPotato

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Posted by: Rage Tiger.4019

Rage Tiger.4019

I agree on the idea of an ingame representation of WoodenPotatoes. Just not sure what race would be best, guess it would be based on the one that is used most often in the videos.

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Posted by: Andele.1306

Andele.1306

All of the above. It’s a nomination, not a personal declaration of superiority. That’s what you guys are presenting, and it sounds more like jealous whining than reasoned arguments.

I think its more the fact that they both didnt bother playing GW1 for lore, but probably achivements and then since the GW2 guru forums rise insist on “knowing all the lore” despite being shown in game facts that they were wrong on more cases than right when something interesting pops up. Also yeah they obviously jelly of the wood a british potato has.

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Posted by: icaruswings.2034

icaruswings.2034

this dude definitely needs to have an in game representation, thanks to this guy i enjoy the game more because i know more of the lore from watching his videos from gw1 and 2.

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Posted by: Farzo.8410

Farzo.8410

Supporting it. Make an NPC of him.

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Posted by: Leo G.4501

Leo G.4501

Lol and I’m starting to think the other way: Giving Dulfy an NPC was likely a mistake.

Now it’s going to be all popularity contests and tears to see who can be next.

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Posted by: LemnzestManatee.2157

LemnzestManatee.2157

I’m totally for this! I am a huge GW lore fan, and even though I’ve played GW1, it was nice to hear a wrap-up of all the stuff that happened in the old games/expansions. I just hope that he can someday finish it!
And the living story wrap-up videos were excellent. I took a little break from GW2 and missed some stuff in the LS, so I’m glad to be caught up on the lore.

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Posted by: Gralsh.9458

Gralsh.9458

/signed

I do not agree with him on everything, but I always appreciate the work he does and feel that the community of players receives a net gain from his efforts.

Wood be a neat thing to see

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Posted by: Apoptosis.8397

Apoptosis.8397

WP is half the reason I play gw2 and the other half isn’t small!

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Posted by: Endox.6908

Endox.6908

This would be well deserved.

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Posted by: Farzo.8410

Farzo.8410

Remember to like that OP so he gets a star thumbs up, so it gets ArenaNet’s attention even more!