Guild Wars 2

This is… interesting. I don’t have a XBOX, but a PS3, I’m going to look up if you can get the same with a Ps3 controller.

If I can play on my bed with just the wireless controller… dang, that’d be awesome.

If Autohotkey is gonna be allowed for this then there should be no conflict with using the same app for Combat Mode either. You just can’t allow use of one and deny the other when using the same program.

Thank Anet for their reply but I am very confused by it. A lot of devices like Logitech and Razor are very popular with gamers. Are you saying I am not allow to use any of the macro functions on these devices? I am not using any 3rd parties programs since I am using the device’s driver. So is that technically OK?

Please note that the official GW2 mouse come with programmable keys. So is that devices illegal as well :P

I can understand if I use programs to give me unfair advantages but using legitimate gaming devices and their in build macro should be allowed. I dislike the idea that I can be banned if my 5th mouse button execute tab 1 2 3 :P

Please make this clear A-net.

Mark Katzbach.9084:

Hey all,

As you may be aware, we cannot approve or review or “vet” any third-party program. Our general statement is that anything that gives advantage is forbidden. There are many utilities that help the player without taking a hit on others, without, for instance, being a detriment to the other players in a match. I’ve heard about certain programs that help disabled players too, and those seem just fine.

In cases like this, I would go so far as to say as long as the profile that binds controller buttons to keyboard/mouse commands is binding one button to one keypress/activation, you are not in danger of incurring a ban. For example: if you press one button on your controller and it executes one weapon skill, it’s okay; if you press one button on your controller and it activates a chain of skills, that’s where you run into forbidden territory.

I hope this helps clear things up for you all.

What about the Pinnacle Program? It could possibly have the ability to do two commands at once if one was to set it up that way. I’m not entirely sure but I think if someone had the know-how, they might even be able to make it do a chain. I know it currently has a double command feature, one where you tap the button and another where you hold it down, but what if someone figures out a way to make it do a chain?

I was just looking at the options in the program now and there is a cycle option in it(idk how to use it, barely used the program other then the intended use). One of the cycles I got in a setup file, which since then I’ve almost changed the entire file around minus cycles, involves moving the cursor from weapon skill 1 though to 5. I think if its set up, they would only need to hit two buttons and they could move though the first 5 skills. three buttons if they wanted a reverse cursor movement I believe.

I plan on fully buying this program because it’s pretty much the best when combined with the motioninjoy program; rarely any problems with it, but would that cycle-ing be enough to get the program on the ’don’t use it unless you want to get banned’ list?

dexcaliber.7481:

If Autohotkey is gonna be allowed for this then there should be no conflict with using the same app for Combat Mode either. You just can’t allow use of one and deny the other when using the same program.

From what I read combat mode changes the gameplay of the game to allow you to play in a different way.

You are NOT allowed to change the way the gameplay is done and the game is played via 3rd party programs to suit a different play outcome.

Mapping buttons as stated is just doing what the game is intended and not trying to redesign the controls or the way one plays/moves/targets etc in the game.

ArtemusHunter.9521 you are not allowed to program a chain of commands or redesign how the game is played.

What program doesn’t matter my razer mouse and keyboard can automate gameplay functions as macros and scripts to kill pickup chat etc so asking if a program is allowed is pointless as the logitech software or any other software with a persons mouse or keyboard can abuse the game if one wants.

You can however map functions 1-1 but as said you are not allowed to program, script etc your own playstyles, modes, macro commands etc.

Anet have made it very clear on that.

Guys don’t try to twist Anets or others words around with how come this is allowed in that program but this isn’t etc its not about just blanket banning 3rd party programs as such if they did that then everything even gaming devices would be against the tos.

Its about whether you take advantage of the game and ‘scripting’ in different ways one might play the game aka combat styles, macroing skills or doing 2 commands at once etc when you need to do them by yourself and not automated or scripted as you are not allowed to change the way one plays the game, you are allowed to however change the device one plays the game on.

If people have ideas and want different playstyles as in combat modes allowing multiple skills automated then they need to get in contact with Anet and ask for extra functionality in game to allow ability to script or change the combat modes etc from the game itself.

But I presume you will be told NO as people will abuse and take advantage of the features as as people are taking advantage and abusing things now with all the threads you can see around these forums.

Mark Katzbach.9084:

Hey all,

As you may be aware, we cannot approve or review or “vet” any third-party program. Our general statement is that anything that gives advantage is forbidden. There are many utilities that help the player without taking a hit on others, without, for instance, being a detriment to the other players in a match. I’ve heard about certain programs that help disabled players too, and those seem just fine.

In cases like this, I would go so far as to say as long as the profile that binds controller buttons to keyboard/mouse commands is binding one button to one keypress/activation, you are not in danger of incurring a ban. For example: if you press one button on your controller and it executes one weapon skill, it’s okay; if you press one button on your controller and it activates a chain of skills, that’s where you run into forbidden territory.

I hope this helps clear things up for you all.

Does that include where someone would bind both the jump and dodge button together to do a flip-dodge? Saw a PUG doing it during a dungeon instance.

I added your profile to my alternative collection. You can find more here or here.

In regard to the ongoing “chain discussion” I would guess from the devs post that a chain means an automated execution of more than one combat and/or movement related command with the result of a direct impact on the combat/game-state with just one single key pressed through yourself. Or in other words, don’t reduce the forced sequentiality that the default mouse/keyboard players have to deal with. So you can for sure overinterpret his words if you like to, but I guess it is not what he meant with “chain”.

Gz

People seem to be throwing out absolute statements about Autohotkey right and left.

Autohotkey is botting. Autohotkey is not botting. Autohotkey should always be allowed. Autohotkey should never be allowed, etc.

Autohotkey is a programming language, which specializes on Windows UI interfacing. It can be used to rebind keys. It can be used to write bots. It can most certainly read the GW2 game memory. I have written entire applications in Autohotkey. I also use Autohotkey to automatically adjust my key-bindings based on which application is active.

Autohotkey does what the program code tells it to do. Some programs break the rules, some do not. Autohotkey itself is not the issue. I don’t hear anyone running around saying “C++ should be banned” or “anything that uses JAVA should always be allowed.” Autohotkey might be specialized, but at the end of the day it is still just a programing language. What you do with it is what counts.

The real issue is this, “What are all third party applications allowed to do.” Anet has been pretty clear on that.

You scored points with my girlfriend and my friends, even if they are at a disadvantage using the controller. xD

I’ve been looking for something like this. I’m getting a new TV and i am going to get some shizzle to make the computer screen display on the TV monitor! And if i had this it would be like i am playing GW2 on my Xbox! EPIC!