Guild Wars 2

http://strawpoll.me/1650433

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Wetpaw.3487:

I’m for dueling in gw2, this is how I would like to see it implemented.

1. Not allowed in major hubs, LA, Vigil Keep, Rata Sum, etc..

1. An option (checkbox) in settings for players that don’t want to be bothered.

1. No death or finisher, duel ends when one player has one hit point left.

1. Dueling allowed everywhere outside of City/major hubs in PvE environment.

Even w/all these naysayers and doomsday comments I personally have had far more better experiences dueling than negative. Outside of city hubs this content fulfilled times of boredom or simple breaks from the everyday norm of current content.

Yes I have been trolled winning & losing a duel, hardly matters though right? Add to ignore list and never run into that player again.

On the other hand I have had duels same faction & enemy that has resulted in a /bow, /salute, /cheer, “gd”, & “what build are you using?”. Some becoming pretty good friends over time.

Nostalgia inc
I still can recall one of my favorite duels from over half a decade ago during BC, an Alliance DK and my Horde DK went at it in Zangarmarsh.

Right before I had the kill hit I backed off and /sit to let himself heal up, he/she seemed a lil taken back and went ahead to heal up, we went at it again.

Almost an hour later and one to two accidental deaths (we both let each other rez and heal to 100% prior to going at it again) we had a crowd of both factions sitting around us not attacking each other watching the show that eventually ended in a /bow and going our own ways. Good times.

Fightclubs in the PvE world, this is a big factor for players that don’t understand or want dueling in PvE environments. They can happen anywhere anytime anyplace, and the world that Anet has built it would be a shame not to put it to use for this reason. Underwater, mountain tops, caves, towns, and even the consensual Deathmatches on bridges, peaks, Jp’s, etc..this is the point of dueling.

JustTrogdor.7892:

I’ll go one more time at this and voice my concerns with open world PvE dueling and even post possible solutions. I’m basing my post on the assumption that if PvE dueling did exist there would be auto-decline option.

1. The affect that dueling will have in /map, /say. Unfortunately a lot of people don’t understand the point of healthy competition and can’t control themselves win or lose. My concern is rage over duels will spill into /map and /say with a lot of garbage talk. Sure I can turn those channels off but why should I have to? Here are just 2 few fairly recent examples (out of many I have read on the forum) of how a duel gone bad can spill into trash talk:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Bad-reactions-after-duels/
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Hostility-in-PvP/

Possible solution: 5 minute cool down before you can post in /map, /say after a duel. (not a likely solution but I thought I would throw it in). Even then I can see where there a lot of trash talk could still spill into /map

2. The affect dueling will have on the PvE environment. If people want to duel fine, but I don’t want to watch it or have to deal with it all over my screen. I don’t want to be at a bank, TP, crafting station or vendor with people dueling all over my screen. People that support open world dueling state it allows to duel in “awesome” locations. Will people really start duels in areas where they might accidentally tag a neutral mob with a multi-target or AOE skill? Will they duel among hostiles? Doubtful. Duels will occur in the safe areas which are also the most populated by PvE players.

Possible solution: No dueling in main cities. Have designated dueling areas in certain maps. This will allow people that want to duel, and practice or whatever reason those that want dueling to due so. They will have the full benefit of dueling in PvE gear while not disturbing other players. Oddly those that are most supportive of PvE dueling reject this compromise every time it is brought up even though it fits most of the criteria for why they want PvE dueling anyway.

3. Scaling. For those that want to duel if they are in areas below L80 how do they know who they are dueling level wise? Like WvW obviously someone L20 dueling someone L80 in say, Queensdale will be at a huge disadvantage and not know they accepted a duel with a L80. I can see where this will lead to a lot of high level players hanging out in low level zones trying to duel new players for bragging rights. This might leave a bad taste in the mouth of new players that are trying to learn the game and testing the dueling system at the same time.

Possible solution: When a duel is requested it shows the true level of both players.

I’m not totally against dueling in PvE as long as there are some limits. I think I have been fair in considering ways that it could be introduced without disturbing the overall PvE population. I think with some compromise it could be integrated and fit the needs of those that want to duel for fun, to practice, and do so in the spirit of healthy competition. To be fair I’m not labeling the entire pro-PvE duel crowd as a bunch of griefers that want to cause trouble. However, I think it is fair to say that introducing open world dueling will indeed open up avenues for more people to try to cause problems for others. Sure, there are already trouble makers in PvE but that doesn’t mean it is a good idea to introduce more tools for people to cause more problems.

I feel that if PvE dueling is important to those that want to duel in PvE with no intentions of causing problems a few limits on where and when PvE dueling can be done is a fair compromise.

Suppose it makes sense to move it here from the General Discussion-section, but you just killed the Poll.