Guild Wars 2

Salutations Anvil Rockers! we at darkhaven have noticed your plight and it breaks our hearts to see such a spvp/wvw focused server such as yourselves fall victim to transfers and the ever looming Drama Llama.

So having said that, Darkhaven opens its arms to you. Bring us your tired, your Hungry and your Rage quitters! and together we shall storm the tiers vindicating loses and kicking in teeth along the way!

Darkhaven has truly grown in regards to its wvw Action. we have always had the heart but now we have the hammer. its fairly drama free and we are all looking forward to brighter days!

for anyone looking to move to Darkhaven on a permanent basis for wvw purposes please feel free to guest over and pm me ( My ranger is Whoajaxx) and I would be happy to give you the grand tour!

Jaxx of GRIM
-Darkhaven-

The people remaining in Anvil Rock need to stay and help rebuild not abandon the server in their time of need.

The people remaining in Anvil Rock need to stay, doing whatever it is they do, without inviting any further revelations toward how mismatched they are with the game they are choosing to play. It’s not about refusing to abandon the server in a time of need. They don’t need anything. The bulk of AR’s remaining frequent WvW players are getting what they wanted.

The ones who don’t want this are the ones who should leave. Read their recent match-up threads for confirmation.

All I can say to a post like this is … wow.

A pathetic attempt someone that can’t perform unless severely outmanning its opponents.
AR guilds, stay where you are, I want to fight you again

I don’t abandon a server because of guild abandonment. With old heroes leaving, new heroes now have a chance to arise and take action.

Even if Anvil falls to the bottom of the charts, I will be supporting her and fighting for her for the entirety of GW2.

Dovgan.8605:

All I can say to a post like this is … wow.

Well, our friend here from Darkhaven is definitely on the right track, offering your players a new home.

Shanks R Us.2489:

AR is dropping tiers because a lot of us don’t play WvW to play WvW. We play WvW to kill people. This is where the skill part comes in. The guild we lost, ALS, left because the people in our server don’t like attacking & defending doors. So when they left, we lost a giant chunk of the players that played for towers/keeps/etc.

Imagine this attitude in an sPvP team. Honest and complete disrespect for your team mates who choose to play for objective and points in a game of cooperative conquest… on the sPvP capital server! He doesn’t even have ALS’ reasons right.

Antara.3189:

I don’t abandon a server because of guild abandonment. With old heroes leaving, new heroes now have a chance to arise and take action.

Even if Anvil falls to the bottom of the charts, I will be supporting her and fighting for her for the entirety of GW2.

This was ALS’ attitude and goals, too. It took about 8 months for Anvil Rock itself to change our minds.

Virtute.8251:

The people remaining in Anvil Rock need to stay, doing whatever it is they do, without inviting any further revelations toward how mismatched they are with the game they are choosing to play. It’s not about refusing to abandon the server in a time of need. They don’t need anything. The bulk of AR’s remaining frequent WvW players are getting what they wanted.

The ones who don’t want this are the ones who should leave. Read their recent match-up threads for confirmation.

I’m not sure if I follow what you are trying to say, but it seems what you’re saying is, “ALS” had different visions with WvW than majority of the active WvW’ers who were not a part of ALS.
Such as ALS being geared towards defensive measures and offensive tactics, whereas other AR players are more into the “savage kill or be killed” attitude? Like more of gorilla warfare than organized battle.

Antara.3189:

Virtute.8251:

The people remaining in Anvil Rock need to stay, doing whatever it is they do, without inviting any further revelations toward how mismatched they are with the game they are choosing to play. It’s not about refusing to abandon the server in a time of need. They don’t need anything. The bulk of AR’s remaining frequent WvW players are getting what they wanted.

The ones who don’t want this are the ones who should leave. Read their recent match-up threads for confirmation.

I’m not sure if I follow what you are trying to say, but it seems what you’re saying is, “ALS” had different visions with WvW than majority of the active WvW’ers who were not a part of ALS.
Such as ALS being geared towards defensive measures and offensive tactics, whereas other AR players are more into the “savage kill or be killed” attitude? Like more of gorilla warfare than organized battle.

Not exactly. First, the mismatch between GW2 WvW and AR WvW: Similar to the way many Ehmry Bay players approach WvW, we often find Anvil Rockers touting “we just want good fights” as their credo. However, unlike Ehmry, Anvil often flat-out refuses to play for objectives as a method of gaining more challenging fights. When Anvil says it wants “good fights”, it means “dost thou even 1v1 all day, bro?” They want objective-free wilderness style open PvP, and enjoy Runescape-like player killing. They do it in WvW because it is as close to that as GW2 gets, and variety is higher than in sPvP in all respects.

The direction of all that is nearly identical to what spawned the “roaming tier” movement here on the forum, for which the interested players and guilds chose Tier 8 servers. That is why I say that this side of Anvil Rock is getting exactly what they have asked for.

ALS is just as savage and kill-or-be-killed as the server we grew in. However, yes, we also carry in our ranks players who get their fun from succeeding in the large-scale combat that WvW is designed for. We upgrade WvW locations and expect to defend them. We seek to anger our opponents by resetting their upgraded structures. We enjoy skilled fighting in and around the conquest design.

Yet, we were also found roaming and in attendance at fight clubs. We still roam and succeed in location captures with 5 or less people, in Tier 2.

Sorry DH people but AR refugee’s are going 1 of 2 places it seems…Ebay and DB. I feel Ebay was a better decision. When AR/Ebay fought they were once ranked 13th and 14th. So the transfer wasn’t so “pay-to-win” but rather progression in climbing the tiers. Also no offense but DH has always been referred to as a lesser version of BP.

/salute to all ex AR players everywhere and the ones that stayed!

Reckon I will continue being one of the few who try to keep our defenses up and use tactics then..

What AR has yet to figure out is that you can do both PPT and open world PvP. Just takes more effort than some people are willing to put out, and I don’t hold these players accountable. This is a game, meant to be played for fun, not stressing over a PPT or how “good” your server is. AR WvW community is small, and as someone very wise put it, it’s like family on AR. Some of them may be idiots, but they are OUR idiots. I love what remains of AR’s WvW community and fight for it every day. We may not be able to keep points on the board right now, but most of us here don’t complain and still have a great time. That’s not going to change for AR. My guild and I have no intention of leaving, our ties to the WvW community are too strong. And maybe someday AR will be able to mix roaming and defense the way we try to, and when that day comes Anvil Rock will rise again.

Dovgan, I was giving one of the reasons we left, not all of them. If you want to believe that, though, then you’re welcome to it.

Kane, if you were so concerned with appearances of “pay to win” you would have gone to Borlis Pass, Darkhaven, Stormbluff, or apparently Yak’s Bend. We in Dragonbrand paid to have fun with similarly minded players, and we had already sent scouts and seen friends leave to Ehmry. The ones that came back told us why not to bother. See you on the field.

Our contacts lists are showing a further spread than only Dragonbrand and Ehmry, anyway. Anvil Rock has been bleeding players for months, and the recent move of ALS simply caused many more to do what they were already prepared to do. We found that many already had the gold saved up, and were simply awaiting the word to go. We’ve also run into ex-AR players that moved months ago without announcement.

OP, this is such sad poaching. Any ARs considering a transfer obviously would be much happier on Borlis. j/k (but you know it’s true…j/k again)

I made my decision based on the old rankings system. Which meant we got to 14 while Ebay was at 13. I can’t move to BP because of obvious reasons and those other servers I am not so familiar with as I am with Ebay. Also given the current state of wvw I think the ol’AR that I remember could beat ALL those servers as they stand right now…why would I want to go there? Also DB is and will always be T2+. Ebay is getting bounced around from tier to tier. Which means we don’t have the numbers to always compete but we make due with what numbers we have….sound familiar right? I think you know what kind of make up Ebay has and since your in DB now you understand the underdog Ebay is now. So yea…I think I made the right decision.

Have fun always having someone to lead. I’ll be in Ebay morning capping for obivious reasons haha =P

In the old ranking system, we got stuck with Ehmry through a period where they didn’t belong at rank 13 but couldn’t escape the tier, for lack of opportunity to prove they didn’t belong at 13. Ehmry immediately proved that in the new match-making system.

All servers are being bounced around “tier to tier”, some more than others. That’s the new match-making. The bouncing around will be reduced when the rand(-1,1) is eventually reduced.

I don’t believe that these things mean what you think they mean.

Virtute.8251:

Dovgan, I was giving one of the reasons we left, not all of them. If you want to believe that, though, then you’re welcome to it.

Kane, if you were so concerned with appearances of “pay to win” you would have gone to Borlis Pass, Darkhaven, Stormbluff, or apparently Yak’s Bend. We in Dragonbrand paid to have fun with similarly minded players, and we had already sent scouts and seen friends leave to Ehmry. The ones that came back told us why not to bother. See you on the field.

Our contacts lists are showing a further spread than only Dragonbrand and Ehmry, anyway. Anvil Rock has been bleeding players for months, and the recent move of ALS simply caused many more to do what they were already prepared to do. We found that many already had the gold saved up, and were simply awaiting the word to go. We’ve also run into ex-AR players that moved months ago without announcement.

My post was not directed at ALS, just the AR roaming population in general. There is raw talent on AR, it just needs to be shaped into something that works. I cannot know all the reasons ALS moved, but I don’t harbor any negativity toward them as a guild. I have seen many guilds come and go.

man the OP is the coldest post ive read in a while. obviously not too much love eh?

Hang in there AR, and hope you make a quick trip to the basement and your remaining leavers leave sooner rather than later. you’ll be smaller but be populated by those who stay who want to simply play for AR – and thats a good thing.

in the end you will find the bottom tiers are a pretty fun place to be, there’s still an endless amount of fun fights and much more variety in who you fight. theres also a mix of small team, small-zerg and sometimes large-zerg play, no lag, no queues, and more goofing around (like HoDs roaming packs of murderous quaggans and mooose).

I have enjoyed HoD’s time at T6-T8. once you shed the last of your leavers and crazy chicks I think you will find WvW even funner then before and many servers down here more than a match for your skills, so theres still challenge to be had as well.

I for one am happy to see a new server down here at the fun end of the tiers. I look forward to fighting you guys again >8^)

-Plains@HoD