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Competent Players Only
You must have had some terrible experiences with dungeon runs…
I’ve felt like making this same post many times. I’m glad someone finally has made it though, I added you and will MSG after work if this isn’t a troll and is for N/A.
<- This scumbag elitist is interested.
|-Swiftpaw Sharpclaw [DnT]-|
Color me curious!!!!!! ill message u as soon as I’m home!
What will be the admission exam? Fracs 26+(seems like a good lvl to test wo requiring absolute fractal knowledge)? Arah 4? cof 1 (lol)?
Gate of Madness
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If I may, if you call yourself elitist, here is your admission exam:
1) Taking turn duo aggro Lupi in melee while the other 3 watch.
2) Fractal 38: Shaman, Snowbind, Mossman melee.
I’m not an elitist so I don’t think I would qualify.
Edited for clarity: Elitist used here in its pure term as someone superior in their talent etc. Not in its smear term, used by Some-One-Left-Behind Program.
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If I may, if you call yourself elitist, here is your admission exam:
1) Taking turn duo aggro Lupi in melee while the other 3 watch.
2) Fractal 38: Shaman, Snowbind, Mossman melee.I’m not an elitist so I don’t think I would qualify.
Sky,
Having played with you, I know you are competent in your class and thus I would categorize you as elite, especially with all the failures in game. For Fractals, I myself do not them as for me there is no reward great enough. I do know a few people I play with (you have too) that are past that level and may be interested in joining.
Color me curious!!!!!! ill message u as soon as I’m home!
What will be the admission exam? Fracs 26+(seems like a good lvl to test wo requiring absolute fractal knowledge)? Arah 4? cof 1 (lol)?
Interesting question, I had in mind COE, Arah etc keeping in mind how many times you die/stand still do nothing/ fail to dodge roll (all the basics). I never really thought of a test, Skychef poses an interesting idea, have two people duo a particular event. I will get back to you shortly.
Thank you for your vote of confidence. I am just an apprentice tutored by a greatest elitist.
I’d rather say: beeing able to quickly recognise boss skills/mechanics and learn to counter them. Doesn’t have to do much with elitism, though.
@OP: You still didn’t say if you are on EU or NA servers.
He’s on NA server.
I’d rather say: beeing able to quickly recognise boss skills/mechanics and learn to counter them. Doesn’t have to do much with elitism, though.
@OP: You still didn’t say if you are on EU or NA servers.
Perhaps elitism is too strong of a word. COMPETENCY is not.
The best tests as skychef hinted on.
Lupi melee – 3 at a time (you plus 2 then the other 2) then doing it as a group
Shaman at 40+ – 2 at a time to see if they can get to the transition part then as a group
You can see how they do in general throughout the dungeon as well on top of these 2.
This will let you see if they are great, mediocre, or bad (like me!).
1) Knowing what enemies do
2) Knowing the game’s counters to those things
3) Effectively applying this knowledge
= Elitist?
I thought it was more about having a soapbox-standing, glory-loving, superiority-complex-having attitude about playing well.
‘Competent’ better describes what you’re looking for (OP). I hope.
…I wonder if Stealth will have a viable counter one day.
Sanctum of Rall since beta 3. Mesmer since 1070 AE
just ran a HotW with [Rome].
Buttersmooth.
keep it up!
Gate of Madness
The best tests as skychef hinted on.
Lupi melee – 3 at a time (you plus 2 then the other 2) then doing it as a group
Shaman at 40+ – 2 at a time to see if they can get to the transition part then as a group
You can see how they do in general throughout the dungeon as well on top of these 2.This will let you see if they are great, mediocre, or bad (like me!).
Can duo Lupicus without dodging, so there should probably be the rule to use berserker gear.
I use LFG to join random people all the time for dungeon runs. I think party profession composition usually determines the outcome.
Usually glass cannon party (all 5) wipe if they don’t know the path. If there is a quardian and the rest are glass, it’s usually ok if people know the path. Otherwise, if all 5 knows the path, they are ok regardless of professions or even levels (does not even need to be 80). Usually if the party players’ rateing are high (2000+), it’s ok too. :P
So I only leave a party when I see a glass canon party with low (<1000) player ratings and when I have limited time to play. It takes time to show people the path and some people don’t read sometimes. XD Even then, I think I only left a party 2 times so far because people didn’t read and couldn’t progress. So yeah there is no need to be elitists to play the game imo.
The best tests as skychef hinted on.
Lupi melee – 3 at a time (you plus 2 then the other 2) then doing it as a group
Shaman at 40+ – 2 at a time to see if they can get to the transition part then as a group
You can see how they do in general throughout the dungeon as well on top of these 2.This will let you see if they are great, mediocre, or bad (like me!).
Can duo Lupicus without dodging, so there should probably be the rule to use berserker gear.
Only if you’re german
I would but I’m afraid I’m a terrible player. Like THE worst.
http://www.youtube.com/user/randomfightfan/videos?view=0&flow=grid
Send me an invite to your guild.
Send me an invite to your guild.
sure thing, I will send you one tomorrow
The best tests as skychef hinted on.
Lupi melee – 3 at a time (you plus 2 then the other 2) then doing it as a group
Shaman at 40+ – 2 at a time to see if they can get to the transition part then as a group
You can see how they do in general throughout the dungeon as well on top of these 2.This will let you see if they are great, mediocre, or bad (like me!).
Can duo Lupicus without dodging, so there should probably be the rule to use berserker gear.
Only if you’re german
Germans can even solo him without dodging
Awesome idea, I’d love an invite to the group!
Maybe worth it if zerker gear is mandatory. I don’t mind people wearing tank gear if I’m helping them through dungeons because they’re fairly new to them. My first exo set on my warrior was karma PVT, so I was there too. But if I’m dungeoning with ‘elitists’, everyone needs to be in zerker, except for maybe fractals 48, then still mostly zerker.
I’d love to tell you I’m competent, but I’m too afraid of randomly kitten in whatever test you have and having you be a jerk about it, despite evidence of random competency. Like soloing Alpha, or being the only one to not go down on my first Lupi.
What are you really looking for? You try to specify a difference between elitism and competency, but the rest of the thread makes me think you’re still looking for full berserker melee did the fight 10 times and is a bad kitten and acts like he’s God, versus someone who just tries to listen and NOT die, and may still kitten here and there, but those events pale in comparison to the times he does well.
Shimar, Donata Ironmind, Aerianwen
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I’d love to tell you I’m competent, but I’m too afraid of randomly kitten in whatever test you have and having you be a jerk about it, despite evidence of random competency. Like soloing Alpha, or being the only one to not go down on my first Lupi.
What are you really looking for? You try to specify a difference between elitism and competency, but the rest of the thread makes me think you’re still looking for full berserker melee did the fight 10 times and is a bad kitten and acts like he’s God, versus someone who just tries to listen and NOT die, and may still kitten here and there, but those events pale in comparison to the times he does well.
Anyone can sit in the back and not die. That does not make you a good player. I can toss full clerics on my guard and kite around all day while that guy in zerker gear does 90 percent of the damage but got downed and it doesn’t make me better than him because I’m still alive.
In my opinion a competent can do any dungeon it this game in full zerker gear without much trouble if they are competent enough to understand the basic mechanics of all the fights. If you feel like you have won because you can stay alive in your defensive set where others can’t then you have already lost.
Most people who use full zerker gear for everything are not elitists they are just good enough to understand how easy every dungeon is and that running anything else is a waste of time.
I won’t join your guild, but if you need someone for a run of whatever, let me know.
I won’t join your guild, but if you need someone for a run of whatever, let me know.
Too elitist for the elitists. Respect.
I won’t join your guild, but if you need someone for a run of whatever, let me know.
I can honestly tell you if you’re not on the list i’m not going to come find you.Not trying to discriminateI’m a creature of habit. Regards.
Fine with me. Good luck in your travels.
Fine with me. Good luck in your travels.
and you also.
Elitists FTW
“you’re killing the boss in 5 seconds, it needs to be 2 seconds!! kicks from party”
haha Good luck though, but from my experience even good players can have a hard time in a dungeon they aren’t familiar with
Elitists FTW
“you’re killing the boss in 5 seconds, it needs to be 2 seconds!! kicks from party”
haha Good luck though, but from my experience even good players can have a hard time in a dungeon they aren’t familiar with
I really wish you would have read the post before commenting. It would have saved my time to responding to this and saved you from looking idiotic.
So what happens when a member joins and decides that all the existing members, including you, suck?
^hmmmm…….. /selfleave?
SoR Tactical Strike Squad
So what happens when a member joins and decides that all the existing members, including you, suck?
Obviously you didn’t play with every member, like myself but I did notice the same thing, there are quite a few sub par players in the guild. The only invite I ever get is COF p1. Think I got one Coe p1 also. Probably just a mistype
Even the two COF runs I went in were horrible, had to pull the slave driver away from its spawn, then the same guy died both runs on the switch, both times saying well before we got there that he was doing it so its not like he wasn’t ready for it.
Its a shame because there are really good pug players out there like myself that just can’t find a semi-hardcore dungeon guild. They all turn out to be guilds full of COF p1 wannabe dungeon pro’s who think their good.
But maybe over time, for now I stopped replying to the invites. Might get better in the future.
So what happens when a member joins and decides that all the existing members, including you, suck?
Obviously you didn’t play with every member, like myself but I did notice the same thing, there are quite a few sub par players in the guild. The only invite I ever get is COF p1. Think I got one Coe p1 also. Probably just a mistype
Even the two COF runs I went in were horrible, had to pull the slave driver away from its spawn, then the same guy died both runs on the switch, both times saying well before we got there that he was doing it so its not like he wasn’t ready for it.
Its a shame because there are really good pug players out there like myself that just can’t find a semi-hardcore dungeon guild. They all turn out to be guilds full of COF p1 wannabe dungeon pro’s who think their good.
But maybe over time, for now I stopped replying to the invites. Might get better in the future.
First: people do not respond to invites so I have to pug them. I can’t help getting crappy players because the good ones don’t respond.
Second: The guy who was dying was not in Rome, good job paying attention. Infact it was only me who was with you that was in Rome the first time and the second time another member was there.
Third: I run cof daily along with other dungeons. I even say “daily cof 1”. You should be surprised you get invited to cof 1 daily with the information I give out.
Fourth: You have not played with every member. Imagine that when I choose to do a dungeon and whisper people, no one drops what they are doing and comes hither to. Pretend (only for a second) that people have lives and do other things which cause them to be offline and when they are online they are not sitting in LA waiting for me to whisper them. I know, fairy tales are just too unrealistic.
Fifth: I invited you to a lot more than cof 1 coe 1. Arah, CM, AC, COE, COF, SE were dungeons I whispered you about.
If you’re unhappy leave but don’t try to bash something you did not take advantage of to the fullest potential. Rome was not built in one day and neither will this guild be. Right now we are severely undermanned. I’m trying to fix this (by recruiting) and weed out bad players who show up. Clearly you don’t have the patience to wait as we build up the memberbase which is fine. I wish you well.
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I wish that this game had more elite dungeon guilds. I’m still trying to find a good one myself.
Youtube Channel – http://www.youtube.com/t3llularman
I wish that this game had more elite dungeon guilds. I’m still trying to find a good one myself.
If you have the patience and skill needed, join Rome. I accept all members (initiate rank) and only the quality ones (by means of playing with) get promoted. The others get kicked. We currently looking to have about 84 more members. All “good guilds” have to start somewhere.
Regards.
So DnT disbanded?
When you want to keep some level of experience and skill in your guild i don’t think you will even be able to find 20 more members in the whole NA gw2 world.
So DnT disbanded?
When you want to keep some level of experience and skill in your guild i don’t think you will even be able to find 20 more members in the whole NA gw2 world.
No. I wanted to see if he would bother to read my signature before he replied to me. I was satisfied.
Youtube Channel – http://www.youtube.com/t3llularman
Its a shame because there are really good pug players out there like myself that just can’t find a semi-hardcore dungeon guild. They all turn out to be guilds full of COF p1 wannabe dungeon pro’s who think their good.
Join LOD. We’re a teaching dungeon SC guild. We run our own tactics, but don’t mind taking new players along and teaching them, as long as they listen and progress. Our runs are pretty smooth though. We mostly run Arah and CoE, although TA, CM and AC are done occasionally as well.
We might sound like elitist trolls on the forums, but we aren’t all that bad, and even Nikaido can be a really nice guy.
forums are in my signature.
“People wanting content where Berserker sucks should remember that it needs be so hard
that they will cry, not just a river, but a huge ocean.” – Wethospu
Its a shame because there are really good pug players out there like myself that just can’t find a semi-hardcore dungeon guild. They all turn out to be guilds full of COF p1 wannabe dungeon pro’s who think their good.
Join LOD. We’re a teaching dungeon SC guild. We run our own tactics, but don’t mind taking new players along and teaching them, as long as they listen and progress. Our runs are pretty smooth though. We mostly run Arah and CoE, although TA, CM and AC are done occasionally as well.
We might sound like elitist trolls on the forums, but we aren’t all that bad, and even Nikaido can be a really nice guy.
forums are in my signature.
DON’T DO IT! IT’S A TRAP!
Youtube Channel – http://www.youtube.com/t3llularman
DON’T DO IT! IT’S A TRAP!
Nah man, I’m not a trap… I don’t have boobs. And I have a beard… I mean, no one would mistake me for a trap…
“People wanting content where Berserker sucks should remember that it needs be so hard
that they will cry, not just a river, but a huge ocean.” – Wethospu
High demand son
I haven’t yet gotten to play with any people from [Rome] yet, though i had been asked for a few CoFs, but didn’t have time at those moments.
Though my main question is, after reading the thread, is there any people in either of these guilds listed that do FotM Lv48(>38) regularly?
So far, i’ve been only pugging FotM with 1 buddy of mine and the rate of crap to good players @FotM 48 is usually at 70/30. Most people can’t deal with stuff like the legendary grawl shaman at all and it’ll take us 30-60 minutes for that fight alone.
God forbid you get one of those “ranger mains” with 5000-9000 achievement points that refuse to use any other character. So far, every ranger with high achievement points have been utter garbage, not even kidding. I have yet to get a good ranger or necro for fractals.
Doesn’t mean there’s not tons of dumb players of the other professions.
NemesisMMNecro [rT] – Trans-Transsylvanian RPer EU
2 days ago I ran with 2 other ROME members on AC p2 ghost eater with 2 pugs, it was butter smooth. after 3 traps and the boss was dead.
2nd run took place, 1 ROME and 1 pug left the group, 2 new pugs joins in and the run fell apart. the party lacked DPS, survivability and coordination. Roman and I were always the last one standing struggling to kill the boss at 15% HP and res while others were either dead or down.
i have had more than COF invites. and when it comes to other dungeons, i ask where are other ROME members, the leader told me they are either busy with something else, or just AFK. 80% of the time i just drop whatever i was doing to run dungeon with the guild unless i was already in a dungeon, PvP, WvW, or doing world bosses. the things that i was doing can wait or start again later on, but a smooth run doesn’t come by often now days.
as for ROME members, we don’t have to wait for the guild leader to whisper for invite, take some initiative to whisperer each other if you want to run something. i am guilty of that, since i was still under the impression that i was under trial stage. i did not start any dungeon or ask anyone to run. if you are thinking “man, i don’t ever get invites and when i do, it’s COF 1”. go out and ask those who are online yourself. personally, i will drop whatever i’m doing or about to do 80% of the time to do a dungeon.
SoR Tactical Strike Squad
hello,
Still looking for competent players only to run dungeons with. Mail me in game.