Guild Wars 2

Since playing the market is the only viable way to make gold at a reasonable pace, how about if we get experience for making a 15%+ profit off sales? This might encourage people to list their blues a bit higher, too. Should also award experience for trading gems -> gold, etc. Power traders can level their alts to 80, and the rest of us can benefit off being able to sell blues and other things more than 1 copper over vendor price.

John Smith.4610:

Playing the market is not the only viable way to make gold. Not even close.
Also this wouldn’t work. If you attempt to artificially increase prices without a change to supply, you’ll just get an oversupply of incomplete transactions.

Someone’s artificially increasing the prices of silver doubloons o.o Unless, of course, you guys deem current prices as the “expected” price for it. o.o

penatbater.4710:

John Smith.4610:

Playing the market is not the only viable way to make gold. Not even close.
Also this wouldn’t work. If you attempt to artificially increase prices without a change to supply, you’ll just get an oversupply of incomplete transactions.

Someone’s artificially increasing the prices of silver doubloons o.o Unless, of course, you guys deem current prices as the “expected” price for it. o.o

There’s a demand for silver doubloons. Much higher than for gold or platinum. The supply is fairly low so of course prices are rising.

penatbater.4710:

Someone’s artificially increasing the prices of silver doubloons o.o Unless, of course, you guys deem current prices as the “expected” price for it. o.o

If you think the price is unfair for the work it takes to get one, you should be farming the crap out of them and making a pile of easy money. Why aren’t you?

Vayra.3290:

penatbater.4710:

John Smith.4610:

Playing the market is not the only viable way to make gold. Not even close.
Also this wouldn’t work. If you attempt to artificially increase prices without a change to supply, you’ll just get an oversupply of incomplete transactions.

Someone’s artificially increasing the prices of silver doubloons o.o Unless, of course, you guys deem current prices as the “expected” price for it. o.o

There’s a demand for silver doubloons. Much higher than for gold or platinum. The supply is fairly low so of course prices are rising.

There’s always been the demand for silver doubloons, and they’ve steadily become more and more expensive. However, it seemed suddenly someone bought out the entire supply and made it more expensive. Key word here is “suddenly”. Alot of people speculate someone manipulating the market to increase its price.

And hey don’t get me wrong, it doesn’t affect me one bit at all. (on the account that I can’t equip a hammer/not gunning for a legendary hammer anyway). I’m just sympathyzing for the other people who are at the mercy of these market manipulators. I wouldn’t be surprised one bit if those things become more expensive than charged lodestones.

Look up the player ID of Logan…he posts in a lot of threads (“How do you make your gold?” being one of them). He was discussing some of his strategies and admitted to manipulating the silver doubloon market. He is throwing around about 3000 g in assets so its doable.

John Smith.4610:

Playing the market is not the only viable way to make gold. Not even close.

You can grind all you want, but the only way to consitently make more than -say- 2 gold per hour is by playing the market.

John Smith.4610:

Also this wouldn’t work. If you attempt to artificially increase prices without a change to supply, you’ll just get an oversupply of incomplete transactions.

You are a smart man. I am sure you already know the blatant market manipulation that goes on.

So, statements that manipulation ’wouldn’t work’ only reinforce my opinion that Anet wants prices to rise, rise so high that players don’t have a choice anymore and pay $$$ for gems, converting them into gold.

It’s okay. Selling gems is your business model. It’s normal that a company wants to make money. And rising prices are a way to do that. It is okay, really.

Just don’t tell people otherwise.

@ Tallis.5607

I lol every time I see this.
Just with 4 alts at worst case scenario you can make 6g in an hour.
And that’s worst case…

@Tallis:
Do you have to make more than 2g an hour?
Do you have to have (insert gear here), (insert item here), (insert amount of money here)?
Do you have to have things absolutely right here, right now?

As far as I can tell, even a casual player can buy a full set of exotics off the TP in about a month of casual farming, or even less if they bother just getting exotics from dungeons with tokens. You could make your own exotic weapon with ~1.5g last week, and that’s buying everything off the TP. Not even one hour’s worth of farming, casually.

You can argue until you’re hoarse that ANet overcharges for their gold, their gems, their everything – but for the casual player that isn’t pretending to be a top-tier player, it doesn’t really stop them from doing anything they wouldn’t be able to accomplish…casually.

Tallis.5607:

You are a smart man. I am sure you already know the blatant market manipulation that goes on..

And it doesn’t work.

Someone bought up most the black dye for like 15-20g a piece the other day and tried jack the price to 34g – within minutes the price was back down to 20g. There just isn’t a market for 34g even with all the supply in his pocket.

Market manipulation is of limited effectiveness, best case scenario is the price take a few hours to renormalise during which time you manage to offload a decent portion due to desperation on the part of the buyers and not setting the price into pants-on-head-crazy territory.

Occasionally, just occasionally the price sticks above it’s previous position (ie chocolate, butter) and that is less to do with it being overpriced and mroe that the old price was depressed due to a backlog of cheap stock

imo, there’s a way to manipulate the market, and with these big ticket not-so indemand items, it’s much harder. But for silver doubloons, for example. Release a few at a time at a higher price, and you’ll have your higher price for it.

penatbater.4710:

Vayra.3290:

penatbater.4710:

John Smith.4610:

Playing the market is not the only viable way to make gold. Not even close.
Also this wouldn’t work. If you attempt to artificially increase prices without a change to supply, you’ll just get an oversupply of incomplete transactions.

Someone’s artificially increasing the prices of silver doubloons o.o Unless, of course, you guys deem current prices as the “expected” price for it. o.o

There’s a demand for silver doubloons. Much higher than for gold or platinum. The supply is fairly low so of course prices are rising.

There’s always been the demand for silver doubloons, and they’ve steadily become more and more expensive. However, it seemed suddenly someone bought out the entire supply and made it more expensive. Key word here is “suddenly”. Alot of people speculate someone manipulating the market to increase its price.

And hey don’t get me wrong, it doesn’t affect me one bit at all. (on the account that I can’t equip a hammer/not gunning for a legendary hammer anyway). I’m just sympathyzing for the other people who are at the mercy of these market manipulators. I wouldn’t be surprised one bit if those things become more expensive than charged lodestones.

I actually caught someone on the forums bragging how they bought silver doubloons in bulk to hoard and sell, suggesting others do the same. So yes, Peanut’s suspicions are correct…