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Posted by: Nike.2631

Nike.2631

Do we really need for the Trading Post “Top Demanded Items” to be filled up with bogus entries like the Dragon’s Jade Wall Skin just because some wiseguy is hiding 315 gold under his mattress in the form of three-point-one-million 1c orders on an item that unfortunately doesn’t have a minimum price?

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I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
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Posted by: Onisuo.8607

Onisuo.8607

How does this affect your gameplay?

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Posted by: OmniPotentes.4817

OmniPotentes.4817

This is just plain sad. If those listings turnout to be from one account it’s got RMT written all over it, and that account should be shutdown.

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Posted by: Wanze.8410

Wanze.8410

Do we really need another topic about this?

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Posted by: Nike.2631

Nike.2631

How does this affect your gameplay?

The Devs went to the trouble of including a list so somebody thought it was information worth having, and I do in fact read it out of mild curiosity. It used to actually give me some insight on where I should go and harvest for the evening. Now it’s becoming little more than a record of where bots are hiding their loot.

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I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
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Posted by: Risingashes.8694

Risingashes.8694

That’s simply a lie Nike. Pure demand numbers are a horrible way to select farming materials.

That list was never useful for anything, and now it’s a preview of under-appreciated skins.

It’s a pure improvement of a completely worthless frontpage. Stop complaining for the sake of complaining.

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

I actually think it’s interesting when someone decides to spend the time to advertise an item by posting 1,000s of buy orders for it.

I think it would be good for the TP if the tool was modified to ignore outlier buy/sell offers, but that’s just about last on my list of things I’d like to see improved on the TP.

In the meantime, I just treat it like any other advertisement: I ignore the content, but admire the skill (or lack thereof) of the marketing department.

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Posted by: Afya.5842

Afya.5842

I thank that guy or bot to show how broken that list is and also the 250limit only limits legit players not bots. Since this thing is only possible with macro/bot unless theres someone typing in order for 12617 times. Even with the delay bug, it’s 4000+ times.

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Posted by: Rouven.7409

Rouven.7409

I thought the trading post was supposed to be a clean environment. Not like the auction house where people can take advantage of others. To me this falls in this category.

But it certainly is not on my top list to fix.

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

Lord Kuru.3685

All it does is make Anet look stupid for putting up information that’s clearly being gamed.

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Posted by: Pandemoniac.4739

Pandemoniac.4739

If we had information about actual sales instead of just asks and bids, this would be a non-issue. I know I harp on this particular point a lot, but I think is would solve so many problems.

If would could get last trade information, I would start looking at the API to see if I could calculate some indexes – that would be fun (well at least for a data junkie like me, I’m sure it would bore most folks to tears).

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Posted by: Mystic.5934

Mystic.5934

I never looked at that front page until this started happening. Now I look to see what was added to the top demanded list so I can buy it and resell it a day later at 100% profit.
I see no reason a top demanded list would be there in the first place. or top supplied. or highest value. or whatever the 4th one is. I recommend replacing all 4 with: “gem store newest items”, “newest items added”, “most recent items purchased”, “highest spread” (largest difference between buy and sell listing)

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Posted by: Neural.1824

Neural.1824

Strange. I’d have thought “top demanded” would have been calculated based on unique buyers, not total number ordered, just to avoid this exact scenario. :/

Where are my gem sales? I want gem sales! Nerf EVERYTHING!

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Posted by: Pandemoniac.4739

Pandemoniac.4739

Strange. I’d have thought “top demanded” would have been calculated based on unique buyers, not total number ordered, just to avoid this exact scenario. :/

Well that would under represent the demand for things like crafting materials. A 1000 people wanting 100 pieces each is not the same demand as 1000 people wanting 1 each.

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Posted by: Behellagh.1468

Behellagh.1468

It would be interesting seeing unique buyers. Might support or refute the few flippers controlling everything theory of the market.

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Posted by: Pandemoniac.4739

Pandemoniac.4739

It would be interesting seeing unique buyers. Might support or refute the few flippers controlling everything theory of the market.

I’d be interested also… I am dying to get a look at the data John has access to… the number of unique sellers/buyers, actual sale prices, daily/weekly volume cycles… I’d hand over a big stack of cash, sign the most draconian NDA in history, wear an ankle monitor, or whatever to get a chance to muck around with that data.

Yes, I have an unhealthy obsession with empirical data. Sexy is measured in petabytes and your sample size does matter in the circles I run in

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Posted by: Cormac.3871

Cormac.3871

Yes, I have an unhealthy obsession with empirical data. Sexy is measured in petabytes and your sample size does matter in the circles I run in

My Asuran warrior’s name is Empirical Data, and I am disturbed by the statement. Yes, I’m a little flattered and slightly curious, but mainly disturbed.

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Posted by: FenrirSlakt.3692

FenrirSlakt.3692

All it does is make Anet look stupid for putting up information that’s clearly being gamed.

Hahah, that program they designed to show the top demanded items is literally doing the very exact thing it was designed for! Mind-numbingly stupid, right?

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Posted by: Pandemoniac.4739

Pandemoniac.4739

Yes, I have an unhealthy obsession with empirical data. Sexy is measured in petabytes and your sample size does matter in the circles I run in

My Asuran warrior’s name is Empirical Data, and I am disturbed by the statement. Yes, I’m a little flattered and slightly curious, but mainly disturbed.

Soooo, what’s your p-value? Want to get together later and run some t-tests to see if we correlate?

Just joking – I don’t have the time or energy to be a stalker

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He might start thinking he knows what’s right for you.
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