Guild Wars 2

I couldnt care less if they would make them unsalvageable.

I’m not even sure where you’re going with this. If WvW gear can’t be salvaged it’s not something any player be it PvE/PvP or even your WvW fellows can help with. It’s something that needs to be taken up to Anet to adjust, not players.

Because PVE players are the ones who control what you can salvage now I guess.

More because pve players said it would “ruin” the economy with a too high ammount of ecto’s, thats why.

renss.5764:

More because pve players said it would “ruin” the economy with a too high ammount of ecto’s, thats why.

I have never heard anyone outside a very small amount of forum users claim that.

Not that it would make you attempting to convince PVE players any less nonsensical.

Maybee, but it is also to get some sympathy, but most pve players don’t care. Even tho you do.

There is always something that someone can’t salvage. PvE players can’t salvage karma items bought from heart NPCs for example. Haven’t seen WvW players championing that, but maybe I missed that thread.

this addresses both karma gear and wvw gear. please add any thoughts u may have to it as well.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/bltc/extractor-overpriced/first#post3976326

I couldnt care less since i don’t play dungeons. Also i never bought exotic karma armor since i mostly prefer knight or berserker stuff. I only bought some exotic backitems for karma and i think i can live with the loss of some equisite ruby jewels somwhere in the future.

WvW players would love to be able to salvage karma gear, would make it affordable to get Runes of Melandru for one thing.

renss.5764:

Give wvw-players some love alright?

I don’t think they can afford my rates, sweetie.

Jokes aside, though, they DO need to review what can and can’t be salvaged. With the recent wardrobe changes and the changes to the rewards from PvP, it’s become a bit of a mess.

You can’t salvage items bought from the orders, or put it into the mystic forge. That’s kind of annoying. I play PvE and WvW and I get a far better deal playing dungeons in general, even considering the fact that I have uses for karma.

Considering karma gear has this problem as well, I’ve no clue why you’re addressing PVE players. And it’s not like us players have any control over what ANet decides to make salvageable or not. So, what was the point of your post?

Lothirieth.3408:

Considering karma gear has this problem as well, I’ve no clue why you’re addressing PVE players. And it’s not like us players have any control over what ANet decides to make salvageable or not. So, what was the point of your post?

He is working under the assumption that PvE players would not want this. I don’t quite think the correlation between PvE players DO NOT want wvw gear to be salvaged because dungeon gear can be salvaged really works. I believe most PvE players want all “currency” gear(karma, wvw, dungeon)to be salvageable.

Im just posting here because my other thread died. link is a few posts above.

Cormac.3871:

You can’t salvage items bought from the orders, or put it into the mystic forge. That’s kind of annoying. I play PvE and WvW and I get a far better deal playing dungeons in general, even considering the fact that I have uses for karma.

I don’t really see the problem here. That armor was just bought because you wanted the skin, and when transferring the skin you destroyed the item.

Also they have empty upgrade slots, and even if not, since they are yellow they would only have major runes, so no need to transfer them.

And also don’t forget we don’t need to use the tricks now to transfer the skins to chars that are members of a different order.

I feel Karma / Order / WvW armor should be salvageable, personally, OP. However PvEers have no say either way. It’s up to the devs’ to decide what should and should not be.

Now, obviously if they feel that it would result in too many easy ectos, perhaps they should simply remove ectos from those items’ salvage tables. That’d be my thought, but perhaps they simply feel leaving them as non-salvageable is the easier route.

It’s true that badges of honor are the dungeon tokens of WvW. And that as such, PvE players are rewarded much more for their considerably less challenging effort than WvW players.

I just think that you shouldn’t think in terms of “us” and “them”. It’s everyone’s problem, especially since part of the solution – in my view – to the current precursor madness is allowing WvW exotic weapons to be forgable. Let me briefly explain that further.

I believe WvW weapons should be treated similar to exotic dungeon weapons from AC. While the AC rares can’t be salvaged for ectos (cause it’s a lvl 35 dungeon), the exotics can be salvaged and can be forged. In fact, salvaging AC gear additionally gives a chance at receiving exclusive exotic inscriptions and insignia for certain stat combos. Oh, and of course there’s those bonus runes that are not accessible other than through dungeon tokens (acquired through dungeons or, since 15 April, through s/tPvP). In other words: the disparity in rewards for PvE and WvW are massive. So I absolutely agree this must be addressed. A fix is long overdue.

As a PvE, WvW and tPvP player, I do not see that a fix to the value of badges of honor to conflict with any of my goals in PvE or tPvP.

i have a question, how is that a PvE-player’s fault?
Anet decided this, blame them.

The reason why they made it un-salvageable is due to the number of Badges people get from the achievement chests and other types of chests.

anzenketh.3759:

The reason why they made it un-salvageable is due to the number of Badges people get from the achievement chests and other types of chests.

Mmm. Even if it would be the reason, which I doubt, it is very questionable whether that’s a good reason. They haven’t shied away from giving out gold through achievement chests. Why would they want to reduce the value of WvW badges to such a drastic extent? I think this measure was the result of the first days of GW2 when it was still filled with botters in WvW. Those days are long gone, the necessity for this drastic measure has become pointless and actually hinders WvW players in progressing along a similar curve as players with a PvE focus.

First, i dont blame pve pmayers for this, i really dont and it would be idiotic if i did. And second, the armor from wvw badges wasnt salvageable before the achievement chests.

Beldin.5498:

Cormac.3871:

You can’t salvage items bought from the orders, or put it into the mystic forge. That’s kind of annoying. I play PvE and WvW and I get a far better deal playing dungeons in general, even considering the fact that I have uses for karma.

I don’t really see the problem here. That armor was just bought because you wanted the skin, and when transferring the skin you destroyed the item.

Also they have empty upgrade slots, and even if not, since they are yellow they would only have major runes, so no need to transfer them.

And also don’t forget we don’t need to use the tricks now to transfer the skins to chars that are members of a different order.

The WvW armor bought with badges is exotic.

renss.5764:

First, i dont blame pve pmayers for this, i really dont and it would be idiotic if i did. And second, the armor from wvw badges wasnt salvageable before the achievement chests.

Well, your thread is badly titled (To all PvE-players) Then after directing your comments to PvE players you say, Give wvw-players some love alright? Implying that you are asking the PvE players to fix it.

Maybe next time put more thought into the title and post to be more clear about what the issue is and how to fix it.

renss.5764:

More because pve players said it would “ruin” the economy with a too high ammount of ecto’s, thats why.

I seriously doubt PvE players would be against another source of Ectos & Dark Matter on the cheap (PvE player DO get Badges from Achievement chests). Your implication that PvE players have anything to do with this decision is VERY misdirected…..

You are confusing your angst against the PvE community with a policy Anet put in place a very shortly after release that was aimed at not making it easy or highly profitable to convert in-game currencies (karma, badges of honor, etc.) to gold.

Take it up with Anet.

renss.5764:

First, i dont blame pve pmayers for this, i really dont and it would be idiotic if i did. And second, the armor from wvw badges wasnt salvageable before the achievement chests.

I was not aware of that. It was likely that way then due to the rate of badges that you get doing WvW is greater then that of someone running a dungeon.

Erich.1783:

Beldin.5498:

Cormac.3871:

You can’t salvage items bought from the orders, or put it into the mystic forge. That’s kind of annoying. I play PvE and WvW and I get a far better deal playing dungeons in general, even considering the fact that I have uses for karma.

I don’t really see the problem here. That armor was just bought because you wanted the skin, and when transferring the skin you destroyed the item.

Also they have empty upgrade slots, and even if not, since they are yellow they would only have major runes, so no need to transfer them.

And also don’t forget we don’t need to use the tricks now to transfer the skins to chars that are members of a different order.

The WvW armor bought with badges is exotic.

You can buy exotic Order Armor with WvW badges ? Or have you just not read about what that post was ?

Most likely they will instead make it so dungeon armor cant be salvaged either. Besides which, a lot of people consider wvw PvE. And furthermore many people play both PvE and WvW.

Talk to the developers about this. Personally, I wish we could salvage and/or throw everything into the mystic forge. I hated spending all that karma just to get skins and then having to destroy the armor.

I agree that they should be salvageable. (Or at least Forge-able.) Nobody in their right mind is going to buy up Order weapons/armor to salvage for Ectos; their high base price makes them not worthwhile, and as Rares, they don’t give inscriptions/insignia.

I like the topic but the title is totally misleading as you’re willing to bring devs’ attention to the problem, and not PvE players’ who generally do not care what you do with your rewards.

As a PvE player, I always found it stupid that karma gear and WvW was unsalvageable. I believe it was a hotfix at some stage (thus absence of “not salvageable” description on items), a countermeasure to “stabilize” economy, but currently I see that making those salvageable would instead have a relieving effect on the economy (especially overpriced rare runes and materials) while providing karma and badge sink.

All you have to do is convince John Smith.