Guild Wars 2

Good news to everyone that worked through all of the hardships of obtaining a legendary, and chose Flameseeker Prophecies!

Good things are ahead! Just kidding.

Unfortunately after watching the live stream with Linsey Murdock I regretfully must inform all current owners that it is one of the only ones not receiving particle effects, footfalls, glows, auras, or anything of the sort.

We are stuck with a shield that only does anything when we have it equipped. While others get to enjoy having legendaries.

Now some of you may say “Well I wanted a legendary and personally I’m happy they didn’t add anything! I like having one without all of the fancy glows and auras!”

Well, then you shouldn’t have a legendary if you don’t want to show it off. I equipped my legendary shield after I heard they were doing upgrades to the legendaries. Now, I know I was in the wrong for expecting something and it not happening. At the same time, when you think about what legendaries needed upgrades, I would say focus, shield, warhorn, etc.

It’s sad that she literally said “Flameseeker is one of them that we thought was good as is” When yes, it does look good while it’s out. But why on earth did ones that are already flashy get appearance upgrades, when ones like flameseeker who’s only recognition is when it is pulled out not get love?

It just makes me sad, and it makes me question this year I have been playing. The amount of time and the amount of effort I have pooled into this game seems to be overshadowed with a complete lack of understanding for what I want as a player.

Any while I may not speak for the majority of the playerbase, I feel it is a general understanding that legendaries should be “LEGENDARY” They should have crazy glows, effects, and different things that set them apart from other weapons. If I wanted a glowing shield, I could have easily got many of the other ones that glow. But I wanted more, and I had faith in Arena net to cater to my needs as a player, and I was let down.

After a year of playing, and after a lot of hard work that went into obtaining this legendary, I’m probably going to quit playing. As are most things I do, I see this as a statement more than I do a “I want to quit” type of action. I would rather quit, and never give another penny to them than sit and be comfortable with the feelings this recent update has given me. And I hope other flameseeker owners stand up as well if you feel this was a hard hitting blow.

While this IS a video game and while this has NO real impact on my life, the time spent and the emotions given while playing the game are real, so it goes without saying that this is going to affect me regardless.

I really hope everyone with a flameseeker lets Arena net know that there needs to be a change to Flameseeker, and it needs to be done quickly. Thanks for reading, and take care.

http://i.imgur.com/s8PTNmS.jpg
If only, if only.

+9000. It’s time for something to be done for sure. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/it-s-time-for-something-to-be-done/first#post2735339 I’m linking mine also so when people read are threads they know whats up. I don’t want this to go un-noticed.

Thanks for the positive support. I’m honestly so fed up with her announcing that, that it overshadowed anything else that they could possibly have given us. Nothing says “kitten#8221; Like spending several months on obtaining something and going “it will get an appearance update. I know I made the right decision” And then getting this. Worst possible scenario.

As an engineer using The Flameseeker Prophecies I felt terrible at hearing the announcement that my shield wouldn’t be getting an update. Before Quip was updated, the choice was easy for me. I liked the shield a lot more. After the first wave of updates I got really excited; my shield might be the next one to get a visual upgrade!

After hearing about the last update, I finally thought my wish would come true! This would be the best patch ever; not only would we be getting SAB back, but the shield I had put so many hours of effort in would finally be more like the other legendaries! Footsteps, auras, perhaps even some cool effects for my ‘Grenade Barrage’, like the other engineer legendaries had.. but alas. I was especially looking forward to upgrades, because as an engineer I’ve already got very little of my weapons to show off.

It’s strange how affected I felt by the announcement there would be no visual upgrade. I’d almost salvage my shield out of sadness..

Forgeweld.8413:

It’s strange how affected I felt by the announcement there would be no visual upgrade. I’d almost salvage my shield out of sadness..

I literally feel that way too.

Criminon.8432:

Thanks for the positive support. I’m honestly so fed up with her announcing that, that it overshadowed anything else that they could possibly have given us. Nothing says kitten Like spending several months on obtaining something and going “it will get an appearance update. I know I made the right decision” And then getting this. Worst possible scenario.

I understand you’re upset…but maybe you should have waited until they officially announced that they’re updating your legendary before equipping it. IMO you shouldn’t craft a legendary for what it may be but for what it is now. Otherwise this happens.

gamerdude.4289:

Criminon.8432:

Thanks for the positive support. I’m honestly so fed up with her announcing that, that it overshadowed anything else that they could possibly have given us. Nothing says kitten Like spending several months on obtaining something and going “it will get an appearance update. I know I made the right decision” And then getting this. Worst possible scenario.

I understand you’re upset…but maybe you should have waited until they officially announced that they’re updating your legendary before equipping it. IMO you shouldn’t craft a legendary for what it may be but for what it is now. Otherwise this happens.

While I understand this, don’t get me wrong. I like to mildly roleplay the profession that I am. A shield like this goes perfect with my guardian. And while already having Foefire’s Essence, I felt it was the obvious choice to go for. When I have it equipped, I do feel like more of a guardian. At the same time, I look at what everyone else has to show with their legendary, and for putting the same amount of time and effort into it, it makes me sad knowing that I was the one that was dealt the least amount of cards.

Criminon.8432:

gamerdude.4289:

Criminon.8432:

Thanks for the positive support. I’m honestly so fed up with her announcing that, that it overshadowed anything else that they could possibly have given us. Nothing says kitten Like spending several months on obtaining something and going “it will get an appearance update. I know I made the right decision” And then getting this. Worst possible scenario.

I understand you’re upset…but maybe you should have waited until they officially announced that they’re updating your legendary before equipping it. IMO you shouldn’t craft a legendary for what it may be but for what it is now. Otherwise this happens.

While I understand this, don’t get me wrong. I like to mildly roleplay the profession that I am. A shield like this goes perfect with my guardian. And while already having Foefire’s Essence, I felt it was the obvious choice to go for. When I have it equipped, I do feel like more of a guardian. At the same time, I look at what everyone else has to show with their legendary, and for putting the same amount of time and effort into it, it makes me sad knowing that I was the one that was dealt the least amount of cards.

I respect your reasoning. For what it’s worth I don’t think that other legendaries, like Flameseeker’s, shouldn’t be enhanced. While I’m not working towards Flameseeker’s myself, I do find it to be a pretty sweet legendary but lacking a footfall while a bunch of others have it is a bit disappointing. While it may not have a footfall effect, it certainly does stand out in combat, so I know I’d try to take some comfort in that if I were you.

All of this aside, don’t give up hope. Lindsay did say that they may still go back and touch things up in the future. You may still get a footfall or similar effect some day.

I’m severely disappointed at ArenaNet at the moment.

First they turn my infinite salvage kit useless where I paid real money for, then I hear on the livestream that my legendary won’t receive an update, leaving it behind the others in many aspects.

Seems I only get a giant middlefinger next week.

gamerdude.4289:

Criminon.8432:

gamerdude.4289:

Criminon.8432:

Thanks for the positive support. I’m honestly so fed up with her announcing that, that it overshadowed anything else that they could possibly have given us. Nothing says kitten Like spending several months on obtaining something and going “it will get an appearance update. I know I made the right decision” And then getting this. Worst possible scenario.

I understand you’re upset…but maybe you should have waited until they officially announced that they’re updating your legendary before equipping it. IMO you shouldn’t craft a legendary for what it may be but for what it is now. Otherwise this happens.

While I understand this, don’t get me wrong. I like to mildly roleplay the profession that I am. A shield like this goes perfect with my guardian. And while already having Foefire’s Essence, I felt it was the obvious choice to go for. When I have it equipped, I do feel like more of a guardian. At the same time, I look at what everyone else has to show with their legendary, and for putting the same amount of time and effort into it, it makes me sad knowing that I was the one that was dealt the least amount of cards.

I respect your reasoning. For what it’s worth I don’t think that other legendaries, like Flameseeker’s, shouldn’t be enhanced. While I’m not working towards Flameseeker’s myself, I do find it to be a pretty sweet legendary but lacking a footfall while a bunch of others have it is a bit disappointing. While it may not have a footfall effect, it certainly does stand out in combat, so I know I’d try to take some comfort in that if I were you.

All of this aside, don’t give up hope. Lindsay did say that they may still go back and touch things up in the future. You may still get a footfall or similar effect some day.

I appreciate the kind message, and I do agree somewhat. It’s just very upsetting knowing you put just as much effort into something and you got the least amount of payback. With that said, I appreciate you taking the time to voice your opinion and to try to make current flameseeker owners more comfortable with their situation.

Xuro.5861:

I’m severely disappointed at ArenaNet at the moment.

First they turn my infinite salvage kit useless where I paid real money for, then I hear on the livestream that my legendary won’t receive an update, leaving it behind the others in many aspects.

Seems I only get a giant middlefinger next week.

Same. Kitten same.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/The-Flameseeker-Prophecies/first#post2737068

I would have been less angry if she didn’t say anything instead of saying “It’s good as is.” It’s like poking at a wound and yelling screw you!

What’s annoying is the SAB shield (and possibly others) has more animations than the legendary.

I was somewhat bummed out when I heard that tidbit … I almost punched through my brand new monitor, but I kept my cool.

I’ve had this shield for about 5 months and chose to craft it mostly because of the lore behind the shield, but it would be nice if it had more flash to it. Lore-wise, I suppose that could be “legendary” on its own right, but if a watcher has never played GW1 and/or has never really cared much about the lore of Tyria, then the lore aspect of the legendary shield wouldn’t hold much weight to it where as other legendaries like Bifrost and Eternity would be like “Oooh shiny! Skritt likey!”

Still— my image that I have reposted occasionally is still relevant.

gamerdude.4289:

Criminon.8432:

gamerdude.4289:

Criminon.8432:

Thanks for the positive support. I’m honestly so fed up with her announcing that, that it overshadowed anything else that they could possibly have given us. Nothing says kitten Like spending several months on obtaining something and going “it will get an appearance update. I know I made the right decision” And then getting this. Worst possible scenario.

I understand you’re upset…but maybe you should have waited until they officially announced that they’re updating your legendary before equipping it. IMO you shouldn’t craft a legendary for what it may be but for what it is now. Otherwise this happens.

While I understand this, don’t get me wrong. I like to mildly roleplay the profession that I am. A shield like this goes perfect with my guardian. And while already having Foefire’s Essence, I felt it was the obvious choice to go for. When I have it equipped, I do feel like more of a guardian. At the same time, I look at what everyone else has to show with their legendary, and for putting the same amount of time and effort into it, it makes me sad knowing that I was the one that was dealt the least amount of cards.

I respect your reasoning. For what it’s worth I don’t think that other legendaries, like Flameseeker’s, shouldn’t be enhanced. While I’m not working towards Flameseeker’s myself, I do find it to be a pretty sweet legendary but lacking a footfall while a bunch of others have it is a bit disappointing. While it may not have a footfall effect, it certainly does stand out in combat, so I know I’d try to take some comfort in that if I were you.

All of this aside, don’t give up hope. Lindsay did say that they may still go back and touch things up in the future. You may still get a footfall or similar effect some day.

I don’t know about you but I felt like she was implying that legendaries what got worked on may get worked on again. Does not mean that the shield will ever be touched.

While I can’t really support the “gee it should be different/better just because!” I DO think that the existing shield should have more impact on skills that use it. When you throw it as an Engineer, it should definitely replace the wooden shield.

Just went and reported the thrown shield issue in the weapon graphics bugs thread. If someone could follow up with screen shots there, that would help .

I also made this reddit thread, hoping to get some community support, but as you can see people don’t understand the issue and the severe impact it can have: http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1lf40q/its_time_for_something_to_be_done/. This thread is linked in the post.

Completely understand how you feel OP and am in the same boat with my Rodgort. This is a slap in the face as some of the already over the top legendaries get effects but the ones that needed improvements got left out.

The ‘legendary’ torch that doesn’t even give off a brighter light than cobalt, that has a minor arm flame hidden by armour and aegis, footprints that barely last, no skill change except for crappy throw torch which you can’t even see.

Sigh middle finger indeed.

FSP is fine as it is.

At least you didn’t go for Kraitkin

Texture fixes for Kraitkin….

Meanwhile, the Dreamer, a bow that shoots freaking unicorns, got his very own footfall effect. ’Cause why not right?

I really hope some Devs read this. I really do. I hope it makes them feel terrible. I know it wont. That kinda sucks.

It seems that they dont like some legendaries and they dont want to update them to better, while other legendaries are still getting more updates… this sucks hardly, since all legendaries are hard to craft in a same way. Those legendaries which has less effects than other should be much cheaper and easier to craft, atleast! kitten this is so unfair…

Criminon.8432:

I really hope some Devs read this. I really do. I hope it makes them feel terrible. I know it wont. That kinda sucks.

I’m with you there

I would really like a dev response. I know moderators check these. It would be really, really, really, nice to get a straight answer as to why it wasn’t changed, why they think the others needed to be changed over FSP, why it hasn’t been touched since release, why the other ones should be flashier than it, and what hope do we have in the future.

I don’t understand why it’s taken 1 year to even get legendaries on par with each other. It seems stupid to me that this wasn’t a larger priority. Mainly due to the fact that to players, it’s one of the largest priorities, especially one of the most time consuming. If players spend this much time on it, so should developers. If it takes several months of collecting, gathering, boring grinding, repetitive actions over and over again, etc then can’t developers actually reward us for these actions?

A few months into the game, sure. It was understandable that Minstrel and others didn’t have anything cool on them. We understood they had to ship it before it was fully finished. They have done a good job on fleshing the game out and turning it into what it is. At the same time, legendaries have been the main focus since the beginning, and yet despite that being the case, developers have shown little to no interest in changing these things.

When I heard they were getting updates, I was certain that the only one that hasn’t been touched since release would get touched. Guess not. I would really like answers, because my feelings for these issues are very real, due to the time I wasted obtaining them. That time was definitely real.

Made a poll about legendaries. It’s going to be interesting to see the results. Most of the people doing this poll are people from reddit.
http://poll.pollcode.com/prdak

I don’t know. I like it the way it is. I really don’t want some ridiculous, over done crap that plagues the other legendaries. I think it’s beautiful the way it is.
I’d rather they just leave it alone and not ruin it. It’s one of the few actually tastefully done legendaries.

Panda Shepard.1248:

I don’t know. I like it the way it is. I really don’t want some ridiculous, over done crap that plagues the other legendaries. I think it’s beautiful the way it is.
I’d rather they just leave it alone and not ruin it. It’s one of the few actually tastefully done legendaries.

I don’t know if you own one, but it is very underwhelming standing next to other people who have legendaries and knowing no one knows you even have one.

I don’t have one yet, but I am going for one.
I like that about it though. I don’t want flying ponies or pages or something ridiculous to ruin what I’ve been working for. I just don’t trust them to do something tasteful

I completely agree with this. Disappointed doesn’t even begin to describe how I felt when I found out the flameseeker wasn’t being upgraded. I was hoping they would add something or at the least get rid of the aegis effect so that the guards can enjoy their shield the way it is now, but that’s just another problem anet has yet to tackle.

Criminon.8432:

http://i.imgur.com/s8PTNmS.jpg
If only, if only.

That effect is kitten! I would craft the kitten out of that shield if it came with that

kind of related, but paying 100g for client-side removal of aegis gfx
i like FSP the way it is currently. but i can’t see the fine detail until i get hit and then have 30 seconds to admire the shield before aegis pops back on

>.>

Dommmmmmmmmm.6984:

Criminon.8432:

http://i.imgur.com/s8PTNmS.jpg
If only, if only.

That effect is kitten! I would craft the kitten out of that shield if it came with that

I’m glad you like it!!

kiba.2768:

kind of related, but paying 100g for client-side removal of aegis gfx
i like FSP the way it is currently. but i can’t see the fine detail until i get hit and then have 30 seconds to admire the shield before aegis pops back on

>.>

I completely agree. It should eat Aegis.

Lucian Arturas.4860:

I completely agree with this. Disappointed doesn’t even begin to describe how I felt when I found out the flameseeker wasn’t being upgraded. I was hoping they would add something or at the least get rid of the aegis effect so that the guards can enjoy their shield the way it is now, but that’s just another problem anet has yet to tackle.

I know This stuff gets pretty emotional. There is nothing worse than getting your hopes and dreams crushed.

I’m sorry but this made me laugh. This isn’t a logical post about why the shield should have upgrades but (comes across as) more of a childish whinge.

a) Why craft the shield in the first place if you didn’t like it
b) Why equip it before the update? wheres the logic?
c) I would love to have that shield on my guard. I’m sure you worked hard for it but you forget that it is still, by far, the coolest shield in gw2.
d) It is instantly recognisable regardless of particle effects so you can easily show it off.
e) Is it not nice to not always be glowing like the sun when your walking around? I would get a little annoyed if everytime I moved my shield started glowing like an 80s disco.
f) You own a legendary. Everyone feels deeply for you that it isn’t good enough.

Now without sounding bitter, grow up. Stop whining about how your gonna quit bcos . . oh wait nothing changed . . . .

Dante.8456:

I’m sorry but this made me laugh. This isn’t a logical post about why the shield should have upgrades but (comes across as) more of a childish whinge.

a) Why craft the shield in the first place if you didn’t like it
b) Why equip it before the update? wheres the logic?
c) I would love to have that shield on my guard. I’m sure you worked hard for it but you forget that it is still, by far, the coolest shield in gw2.
d) It is instantly recognisable regardless of particle effects so you can easily show it off.
e) Is it not nice to not always be glowing like the sun when your walking around? I would get a little annoyed if everytime I moved my shield started glowing like an 80s disco.
f) You own a legendary. Everyone feels deeply for you that it isn’t good enough.

Now without sounding bitter, grow up. Stop whining about how your gonna quit bcos . . oh wait nothing changed . . . .

a) I already have foefire and the shield was the obvious choice if I wanted to get a legendary.
b) After working hard for something you obviously want to show it off. However it was so underwhelming after I equipped it, I wished I hadn’t.
c) The fractal shield looks cooler.
d) I haven’t once had a comment about it, however my foefire has been getting comments for about 9 months.
e) If I work that hard for something, the sun should be envious about how much I glow.
f) Your smart kitten remarks aren’t really needed here, and while I do appreciate you taking the time to read the thread (which I don’t believe you read much of), I must say I found your post very rude, and rather distasteful.

If you think a 2 minute post by you is going to change my views or beliefs on this subject, or even bother me in the slightest bit, you might want to reconsider. I’ve been on this subject since the announcement was made. I haven’t let up yet, and I don’t plan on it any time soon.

I really do want it to eat aegis. That, I can definitely get behind. I forgot about that skill.

To your point B Crim, what if someone worked really hard and got FSP because they liked it how it is? What if it gets changed to something really dumb?
I don’t want to see everybody all upset like those people who got the legendary scepter.

Panda Shepard.1248:

I really do want it to eat aegis. That, I can definitely get behind. I forgot about that skill.

To your point B Crim, what if someone worked really hard and got FSP because they liked it how it is? What if it gets changed to something really dumb?
I don’t want to see everybody all upset like those people who got the legendary scepter.

That’s understandable. I think that arena net should cater to everyone, which wouldn’t be hard. They keep the old skin the way it was, and each time they upgrade it they give the people who previously owned it to keep the old state, or to upgrade it.

It makes me jealous looking at all those other legendaries that now shine and have footsteps out of combat. While my shield just sits there, doing nothing nice when I’m out of combat.

I was going to post a rant about how the shield had no graphics until I saw the screenshot from the OP…

omg, no please… keep it simple if that’s a possibility!

The shield already is glowy enough. The footprints could be nice though

Just rid off the aegis effect on the shield, that effect is ruining the legendary… and let the shouts move the sheet too…

Holy.. so Bifrost even gets a nice projectile, the dreamer now not only shoots ponies, but it has big hoofy footprints to go along with. Footfalls generally got bigger. We get nothing, because we’re ‘fine as is’, while we lack any of the features that characterize the other legendaries. I wish ArenaNet would at least respond to this. My legendary feels like everything but legendary.

Forgeweld.8413:

Holy.. so Bifrost even gets a nice projectile, the dreamer now not only shoots ponies, but it has big hoofy footprints to go along with. Footfalls generally got bigger. We get nothing, because we’re ‘fine as is’, while we lack any of the features that characterize the other legendaries. I wish ArenaNet would at least respond to this. My legendary feels like everything but legendary.

+1

After running around for a little while and seeing all the legendaries from the “cool table” with the revamps it’s still a huge slap in the face to Flameseeker users and definitely not fine as is. It may be the best looking shield in the game but it still needs to stay worthy of it’s legendary status and have the same features as the other weapons.

We need a footfall effect, or an aura. At the VERY least we need engi’s to throw the shield instead of the generic graphic if for some reason unique skill effects can’t be thought of but I’m sure there’s plenty of ideas that the great folks at Anet could put on it. Come on guys!

As we get more and more skins coming into the game we’ll see more and more fancy effects put on new weapon skins, that’s just how games slowly evolve. Right now have a number of shields that are both animated or have light effects putting them in the same league as the Flameseeker such as the fractal shield, the fused shield, and the zodiac shield. We need our shield stepped up! We need to hang with the rest of the class!

Best of luck. Not how I’d prioritize limited artist-time in this game, but maybe you’re persuading them.

Nike.2631:

Best of luck. Not how I’d prioritize limited artist-time in this game, but maybe you’re persuading them.

A-net is unwilling to grant the only legendary shield in the game the same amount of time they have granted the other legendary weapons? This is about what imo is an unfinished piece of design. Therefore i think its only fair that “limited artist time” is given to FSP’s out of combat features. The ghastly grinning shield is an exotic!!! And frankly looks more legendary out of combat because of the smoke effects.

Secondly, ive read that some people dont understand why we chose a shield that we are so unhappy with. My response to that is that a legendary piece of equipment is an achievement of its own, the FSP is the ONLY legendary shield. And later news about legendary out of combat stat-swapping is perfect for different on-the-fly ajustments in fractals, dungeons and so forth. This makes us able to use the legendary weapons more often and makes them even more of a “must have”.

Arena-net should really reconsider the choise they made to not update the FSP. This is as was said earlier a slap in the face to all of us that really wanted the FSP to shine on par, but in its own way, with the other legendary weapons.

I think you really fail to grasp how much 99.9% of the game population don’t care about the FX complaints of ALL THE LEGENDARY OWNERS PUT TOGETHER.

We’re talking textbook first world problem. Frankly the justification for the time they keep sinking into twiddling with them is a bit of a mystery to me.

But the real issue is flat-out the Devs in charge of it disagree with your core premise – that the Flameseeker Prophecies is somehow lacking.

The projectile not looking right is dumb and I saw that it’s now properly logged in the weapon FX bugs thread and I completely & sincerely hope that gets fixed. But this obsession with footfalls is mind boggling to me. “My shiny, special unique thing doesn’t look like all the other Legendaries…” Does the INSANITY of that statement not compute?

Hell, I feel bad for the shield, since seemingly it has numerous owners who simply do not appreciate the incredible richness of detail it already has… evidently because it doesn’t leave enough glowing poop behind.

It’s not that I want them per sé. I’m probably even going to be disappointed by them. But it’s the principle of the matter. Why did they decide to skimp only 2 legendary weapons? Only the FSP and Minstrel don’t have auras or footfalls. Surely it wasn’t such a time consuming matter to fix that.

I recently finished my Flameseeker as well and agree with most of the comments in this thread. I’d like to see footfalls but everything else is greatr as is…I’d really love to see something like some shield footfalls after being jeelous of the new dreamer footfalls…

16 Legendaries got updated to mostly increase their footfalls effects and make them flashier.

The ones that didn’t:

Twilight and Sunrise, because they were good enough and are.
Predator. because it doesn’t really need a change to its footfalls.
The underwater harpoon gun.
Flameseeker Prophecies, because it was “good enough” despite it having no footfalls or aura to speak of.

Wait, wut?

I think its quite obvious that the people that have voiced against us in this thread are seeing this as a strictly pragmatic issue, where everything is based upon logic and principled views. Y u no buy another legendary? Y u caring about a shield in a game? This isn’t a pragmatic issue, it’s a massively multiplayer online roleplaing game. Its not supposed to be logical, no one would use hours in this game if it was all about logic. Pls go use ur logic on minecraft or chess, i think your superior mindpower would be better utilized there. Leave us alone with our illogical love for beautiful design and mesmerizing detals. You just dont get it, thats all.