A Question About Raid Classes.

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Posted by: Pezz.4758

Pezz.4758

Hey figured Id give the raids a go but Im curious.

Do any classes raid with a power spec?

I mostly play Necro, guard, engy and leveling a rev.

I see necro and engy are meta condi, any hope for the others?

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Posted by: Dinosaurs.8674

Dinosaurs.8674

In general, every class falls into one or more of these categories:

Power DPS
Condi DPS
Healing
Utility/Group Buffs

Necro is typically played as a condi spec. It is mediocre in the first raid wing but incredible in the second (2-4 for sloth, 2-4 for bandit trio, 2 for matthias is not only viable but actually good)

Guardian’s only commonly used build is Power DPS with Hammer. One guard is brought for a lot of the encounters for protection, stability CC,, and a bit of healing. Some groups will use two for some of the bosses, but this is less common.

Engineer is typically played as Condi DPS. Power DPS isn’t awful but it struggles to compete with other power classes. Its usefulness depends a lot on the boss, with it being common against Vale Guardian, Gorseval, and Slothasor, but rarely used against the other bosses.

Revenant is generally played as Utility/DPS to give the team might, fury, protection, and boon duration. It is common to have one rev in every group for every boss (besides bandit trio, but you can run all sorts of crap for that fight).

I’m glad to see a new raider who doesn’t have only elementalist. Good luck!

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Posted by: Pezz.4758

Pezz.4758

thank you!

ima see if i can make power engy work, its one of my fav classes and i know you said it wasnt optimal but flavour is important to me

cheers, and thanks

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Posted by: Leezy.4567

Leezy.4567

I’m just going to throw it out there, Most groups will only take the meta/optimal classes, since you sound like you will ideally be aiming to PUG yourself into raids, for just an easier time you are going to need to commit to it, when you find a group of friends to raid with that’s when you can start having fun / mixing comp up. Until then expect PUGs to only take what would give them the best chances of success.

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Posted by: BloodyNine.7504

BloodyNine.7504

I’m just going to throw it out there, Most groups will only take the meta/optimal classes, since you sound like you will ideally be aiming to PUG yourself into raids, for just an easier time you are going to need to commit to it, when you find a group of friends to raid with that’s when you can start having fun / mixing comp up. Until then expect PUGs to only take what would give them the best chances of success.

I agree that you will run into this. It is unfortunate but true. There are a lot of groups that will hear power engi and say no thank you. Just the way it is at this time.

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Posted by: Pezz.4758

Pezz.4758

ah ok then nvm, was on the fence anyways if its like 2005 WoW strict ill pass, thanks though, cheers

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Posted by: Dinosaurs.8674

Dinosaurs.8674

thank you!

ima see if i can make power engy work, its one of my fav classes and i know you said it wasnt optimal but flavour is important to me

cheers, and thanks

Just fyi leezy is generally correct. You’re going to have a tough time finding a group willing to take a new player with a nonstandard build, assuming you are running only pugs. I was in your exact situation when I started raiding: only had power scrapper because I like it more. But it became clear pretty quick that condi was more desirable and I wasn’t helping my team by essentially playing a “fun” build in content that I didn’t know how to properly play against to begin with. I still play with the same people and I’ve taken power scrapper through the raid plenty of times since then, but now I have the mechanics down pat and really I can do whatever I want.

Another advantage of playing a standard/meta build is that a lot of other people have played it and can give you advice. Not many people have played power scrapper in raids.

So I’ll tell you what I told someone else in a similar thread: play the standard crap, get a group, learn the mechanics, and once you have the fights down you can play whatever you want and get away with it.

PS If you can get into a good guild that is the best way to get into raiding. Not necessarily a “raid guild” but even just a guild with people who are willing to raid with you.

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Posted by: Pezz.4758

Pezz.4758

ya i dunno what i was thinking
well i do kinda
figured the way GW2 was marketed to me raids would be a little i dunno more forgiving

i guess if i wanted to get the best gear in a raid guild with a schedule and class guides
i woulda stayed in my old game

maybe ill just do that

thanks for the info though guys, cheers

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Posted by: Akrib.4297

Akrib.4297

Is there still some demand for burnzerker warrior in raids or is it almost always PS?

I’m also thinking about starting a Revanent, are they in demand for raids and fractals as well?

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Posted by: Avarice.2791

Avarice.2791

ah ok then nvm, was on the fence anyways if its like 2005 WoW strict ill pass, thanks though, cheers

It’s not that GW2 compositions are “strict.” Some people “7-manned” VG. What people are generally trying to say is people typically look for what a certain classes maximum potential is which will obviously make each encounter more effortless. This happens everywhere. Zerk used to be the only meta prior to HoT.

You’ll find people generally try to run optimal compositions because they make life easy. If they need a condi dps in the first wing they will generally look for a condi engi. This is why someone who states they are a zerk engi may be rejected. It is certainly possible to do most of this content with numerous amounts of compositions.

People have already did the work for you. It’s all on metabattle. Look at the builds, decide what you want to play =]

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Posted by: That Guy.5704

That Guy.5704

Is there still some demand for burnzerker warrior in raids or is it almost always PS?

I’m also thinking about starting a Revanent, are they in demand for raids and fractals as well?

when burnzerker got fixed it brought its condi damage potential down to probably 3rd place behind necro/engi (I’m not sure the actual order of those 2. As such, if you have an engi or necro where you need condi, those are preferred and the warrior is likely going to be asked to go PS. Now, if you already have all your specific roles covered including might, and your group just needs DPS, I dont see a big problem letting someone run burnzerk.

most groups have at least 1 revenant, the rev will be in the subgroup with the chrono to provide the facet of nature for 50% boon duration for quickness.

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Posted by: Absurdo.8309

Absurdo.8309

Is there still some demand for burnzerker warrior in raids or is it almost always PS?

I’m also thinking about starting a Revanent, are they in demand for raids and fractals as well?

when burnzerker got fixed it brought its condi damage potential down to probably 3rd place behind necro/engi (I’m not sure the actual order of those 2. As such, if you have an engi or necro where you need condi, those are preferred and the warrior is likely going to be asked to go PS. Now, if you already have all your specific roles covered including might, and your group just needs DPS, I dont see a big problem letting someone run burnzerk.

most groups have at least 1 revenant, the rev will be in the subgroup with the chrono to provide the facet of nature for 50% boon duration for quickness.

Personally, if a warrior had both sets of power and condi gear, and we already had enough condi for the fight, then I would ask the warrior to go PS. It is might insurance, and the damage is probably similar to the now nerfed burnzerker.

If we were short on condi for vg, I would not turn away a burnzerker.

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Posted by: Thaddeus.4891

Thaddeus.4891

ya i dunno what i was thinking
well i do kinda
figured the way GW2 was marketed to me raids would be a little i dunno more forgiving

i guess if i wanted to get the best gear in a raid guild with a schedule and class guides
i woulda stayed in my old game

maybe ill just do that

thanks for the info though guys, cheers

It’s not about how forgiving they are. People did the raid in full exotic, or with only 6 players so they are forgiving.

People used to ask for meta build in dungeon and they were forgiving as hell. The reason they ask for meta build is that they don’t know kitten about you. They don’t know if you are good, have experience, etc. The only thing they can kind of look is your build. So most people will be strict about that. Why would they take someone with a lesser build if there is 20 others players with meta build that could take your place?

Also, raid are relatively easy once you know the fight well and have a decent team, but take a lot of practice. Pugs don’t want to go through all the hard work of the first few weeks over and over again each time they want to pug, so of course they gonna be strict. If you don’t want strict requirement, either start your own LFG, try to find one of the few pug squad with none (usually training group that won’t kill the bosses) or find you a raiding guild that fit your need. The goal here is to find like-minded people.

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