Guild Wars 2

I’m still kinda new to the dungeon, but i was wondering if there was a way for a warrior to break out of an Alpha crystal? Classes with teleport just pop out but it seems to be the thing that kills me when I’m the only one left alive.

Also, does this “stacking” trick actually work? I had an elitist guy insult the entire group every time it failed. From what I’ve gathered, only one of the AoE’s actually hurt, and that’s when the big chunk of ice blasts you, but it only seems to go for one person, so effectively everyone standing on the same place = everyone gets hit?

Last question about the destroyer on path 3. Is there an easier way to do it than 3 people being mostly excluded from the fight, and having two people teeter on the edge of the platform when the shield comes on? It just seems he has too much health to be a 2 man job…

Sorry if I’m missing some blatantly obvious solution as I only really came up with these assumptions on the fly.

Thanks in advance.

The stacking thing does work, to avoid the damage when you see the red circles on the ground just count to about 2 then dodge and you should evade it all, takes a couple of times to get the timing down but when you do you’ll very rarely go down. Also if you all stack then if anyone does get downed or stuck in a crystal you can get them up or out without having to run to them.

For the destroyer in path 3, 3 people need to do the lasers, but once they are fired you have time for everyone to run down and damage him, then when you see the shield starting to flash back just run back up

The ground covered in AoE doesn’t actually hurt though, you can just stand still and the ring will miss, everytime. Only the person getting targeted experiences a damaging attack, would it not be better for that one person to stand at range so the rest don’t need to dodge?

Does that path 3 strategy work all the time? Cause I PUG a lot and I think it’s kinda risky that all 3 make that journey everytime, especially cause of no more WP ressing, and the shield staying up for too long can destroy the people on the ledge :/

Dolan.3071:

The ground covered in AoE doesn’t actually hurt though, you can just stand still and the ring will miss, everytime. Only the person getting targeted experiences a damaging attack, would it not be better for that one person to stand at range so the rest don’t need to dodge?

Does that path 3 strategy work all the time? Cause I PUG a lot and I think it’s kinda risky that all 3 make that journey everytime, especially cause of no more WP ressing, and the shield staying up for too long can destroy the people on the ledge :/

Yes, only the ice spike hurts, but it’s easier to just stack. Why? A few reasons. One, the target of the one spike will change ever so often; two, people will inevitably stand too close together at some point and make both of them dodge; among other things.

And the path 3 thing is, I’m pretty sure, how it’s designed to be done. All 5 people make the full round trip each time the lasers are fired, and it shouldn’t take more than maybe 5 iterations. If someone dies, you can hug the outside wall to get out of combat—the destroyers HP won’t reset.

- No way for warrior to self-break out of purple crystal afaik

- For the “stacking” thing …. As u have noted urself there are 2 kind of ice AoE .

The first AoE damages anyone who stand in the inner circle , Alpha will use this on 1 and only 1 of our party member . The second AoE damages anyone who stand in the area between inner and ourside circle , alpha will use this on the rest of the party member which are not targeted by the first AoE.

I found the best way to handle this pattern is to find who got the first AoE aggro when the the battle starts , the one who got the aggro then need to use ranged and try to not die ( this is very important , because if this person die the first AoE aggro will change to other person ) and the other 4 stack to melee alpha

Sometime for reason that baffles me the first AoE aggro changes for no reason , in which case ur team need to make adjustment quickly but the concept is still the same ( 1 kite 4 melee )

The hard part comes when the one who got the aggro trapped by purple crystal , there 2 way i know , 1. he/she need to free him/herself using teleportation skill like : shadowstep . 2. if he/she cannot then the other party need to break the purple crystal .

- For part 3 , all 5 of u can go down and hit the boss when the shield is down if u all feel confident , if u dont … well there are a couple of things i notice :

1. If u have attack with 1500 range u can hit the boss from the upper platform , ie : warrior rifle burst skill
2. Mesmer can always use portal for easy teleport to upper platform when the shield is up
3. There are “small safe spot” near the boss where u could stand without got burned by the lava , but need 1 person on the upper platform to draw the fire tooth aggro

CMIIW

When you stack and he uses the ice just wait about a second or two and then dodge. It might take a few attempts to get the timing down, but once you do then there’s not much he can do when you stack up.

You can kill the destroyer in one cycle with Time Warp and proper DPS.

Dolan.3071:

I’m still kinda new to the dungeon, but i was wondering if there was a way for a warrior to break out of an Alpha crystal? Classes with teleport just pop out but it seems to be the thing that kills me when I’m the only one left alive.

Have the rest of your party kill the crystal.

Also, does this “stacking” trick actually work? I had an elitist guy insult the entire group every time it failed. From what I’ve gathered, only one of the AoE’s actually hurt, and that’s when the big chunk of ice blasts you, but it only seems to go for one person, so effectively everyone standing on the same place = everyone gets hit?

Look at the ground AoE. Mist around the ice = dodge out, no mist = safe. Since the two types of AoE usually overlap, count to 1 after the ice lands and dodge, preferably forward or to the sides.

Last question about the destroyer on path 3. Is there an easier way to do it than 3 people being mostly excluded from the fight, and having two people teeter on the edge of the platform when the shield comes on? It just seems he has too much health to be a 2 man job…

Fire cannons, jump down, nuke like a motherkittener, on the 3rd shield pulse bail out; use either the stairs (slower but safer) or the platforms (faster but riskier) to get up. Rinse, repeat, downable in 2 shields without timewarp, 1 shield with TW and 2-3 warriors.

Stacking is better even for ranged and squishier classes because:
- Alpha doesn’t move
- You get all the boons/heal and benefits from being close to your teamates which makes you a lot tougher than if you stood behind
- If anyone falls, you don’t have to run around to help him (this is usually how you fail alpha)
- You get instantly freed from the crystals (which is buggy btw, if it breaks too fast, you are stuck in it for the full duration)

Iehova.9518:

Dolan.3071:

I’m still kinda new to the dungeon, but i was wondering if there was a way for a warrior to break out of an Alpha crystal? Classes with teleport just pop out but it seems to be the thing that kills me when I’m the only one left alive.

Have the rest of your party kill the crystal.

As I said I’m the only one left alive = no party. But that’s good to hear to be able to tell the ice AoE apart

Thanks for the tips guys. (I’ll have to get those lazy laser firers to get down and help.) Also the destroyer does reset, something which happened a few times when we were learning him, not fun at all. And someone drawing the tooth aggro, that would’ve been good, was kinda hard sitting on the edge trying to avoid those

constantgeek.8371:

I found the best way to handle this pattern is to find who got the first AoE aggro when the the battle starts , the one who got the aggro then need to use ranged and try to not die ( this is very important , because if this person die the first AoE aggro will change to other person ) and the other 4 stack to melee alpha

Sometime for reason that baffles me the first AoE aggro changes for no reason , in which case ur team need to make adjustment quickly but the concept is still the same ( 1 kite 4 melee )

The hard part comes when the one who got the aggro trapped by purple crystal , there 2 way i know , 1. he/she need to free him/herself using teleportation skill like : shadowstep . 2. if he/she cannot then the other party need to break the purple crystal .

The reason that most groups just stack melee and all dodge is because it fixes both of your issues. It doesn’t matter if the aggro changes, because everyone’s dodging anyway; and it doesn’t matter if someone gets stuck in the crystal, because you’re breaking it with cleaves.

One more thing, Alpha doesn’t melee in paths 2,3. This advice might be useful.