Guild Wars 2

Would it be possible to get a party of 5 thieves and have them all time Shadow Refuge properly such that the entire party and Magg is permanently stealthed during the part where he sets up the bomb?

Magg has an aoe of death around him, supposedly because the kaboomium is blowing up when you get close.

The easiest thing to do would be to just kill everything

5 thieves with dagger storms.

There has got to be a better way to do this than die, die, die, die. Just no group I have ever been seems to want to try it….

There is a better way to do it, you kill the mobs that spawn. There has been videos posted about this encounter.

You can’t clear the mobs unless the party is geared with exotics. I’ve tried the clear strat with people in yellows and you just don’t have enough damage to clear them without eventually getting overwhelmed. I guess only teams geared in exotics can escape the mandatory death repairs of magg.

We have tried the bombing encounter wearing no armor (only jewels and weap) and we still managed to get it to 80% and without armor (losing a lot of defense) you basicly get hit for 10k.

I’ve done it once here’s our team set up.

Banner warrior (me)
Shout heals warrior
Tank heal guardian
Shatter mesmer
Engineer we pugged (Sorry I don’t know engineers well enough)

We sort of screwed up and almost wiped near the end but got our butts saved by double war banner revives. I think if we played a bit better, we could have done it without any downs or near wipes.

Just kill the spawns. Once you get past the first group you’re able to pick others off one-by-one. Once you near the end (around 80%) it’s harder to keep up, by that point however the damage is minimal and it’s easy to survive.

Did it last night easy with a Guardian, Warrior, Theif, Necro and Mesmer.

Done path 2 with 4man since one disconected but we just kited all the way trough maggs. Especially since im a guardian i had no trouble running circles in that room staying alive. i did die at 98% though because of stupidness but we managed to do it that way though :p

From what I see so far, every succesfull group was successfull due to the mesmer in their group, now, genius pro people, I’d like to see you doing it without a mesmer with only 1 warrior (doesn’t matter, banner or glass cannon)

You will start running eventually c: And since your guardian buddy won’t be able to give healing symbols so often you are kind of screwed.

Don’t get me wrong, I like how CoF is atm I’m doing it daily, I’m fully exotic (including jewels) and with pugs it’s as far as my experience go – impossible. I don’t mind kiting. It’s at most 8 silver in repairs and I earn 20 at the end so it’s not so bad

Ravenmoon.5318:

From what I see so far, every succesfull group was successfull due to the mesmer in their group, now, genius pro people, I’d like to see you doing it without a mesmer with only 1 warrior (doesn’t matter, banner or glass cannon)

No mesmer, 1 warrior, first try. I expect the next request to be 1 guardian or something.

Here my movie too, done with pug, we wiped 3 times but we done it.

took me 3 hours to get the group ( because of leaving btw ) all people say its impossible bye…

Its wrong and i like do it legit !

we get two warrior, one necromancer, one guardian ( me ) and a engineer.

Symbiote.4597:

You can’t clear the mobs unless the party is geared with exotics. I’ve tried the clear strat with people in yellows and you just don’t have enough damage to clear them without eventually getting overwhelmed. I guess only teams geared in exotics can escape the mandatory death repairs of magg.

I seriously doubt gear is an issue here, build >>> gear

@Asurawrath I don’t know when this video is made but there is NO way for guardian to currently deal 9k critical damage to a mob in that room today with a greatsword. I see he’s wearing CoF armors, but they are not better stat-wise compared to the draconic exo craft. Probably this guy also went 30 on zeal too, which is quite useless now, so please

My movie has been done the 13 october 2012.

I don’t have 30 in zele.

and my armor = cof power/alteration/vitality.

I have 20 – 10 – 0 – 30 – 10 this is my build.

Cool video. It shows 4 of the 5 members geared in CoF gear. It only proves my point that people in full yellow(rares) can’t beat the dungeon the intended way. Which is dumb considering the dungeon should be tuned for that gear level. Not for people already in exotics.

Symbiote.4597:

Cool video. It shows 4 of the 5 members geared in CoF gear. It only proves my point that people in full yellow(rares) can’t beat the dungeon the intended way. Which is dumb considering the dungeon should be tuned for that gear level. Not for people already in exotics.

You can beat that encounter in masterwork gear.

i am pretty sure they spawn faster than in video -.-

i am pretty sure they spawn faster than in video -.-

Yeah I was about to say this very same thing. I do a combination of the kill and kite methods every time I do this dungeon. Smokelord is the one who does the most damage of all the mobs that spawn, so I convince everyone to kill that guy ASAP. If we can kill that mob, kiting becomes a cake walk. If there is time, we’ll kill the other two. The vast majority of my runs the group doesn’t have the DPS to kill anything except the Smokelord before we start getting overwhelmed and have to start kiting. The best I’ve ever done is kill the first 3 adds before getting overwhelmed and need to kite.

Cool video. It shows 4 of the 5 members geared in CoF gear. It only proves my point that people in full yellow(rares) can’t beat the dungeon the intended way. Which is dumb considering the dungeon should be tuned for that gear level. Not for people already in exotics.

I saw the same thing. Every single person in those two videos are using exotic weapons and mostly exotic armor that I can tell. Can’t say what they’re using for jewels, but its safe to bet that they probably have mostly exotic jewels if they’re killing the mobs that fast.

You can beat that encounter in masterwork gear.

This is a serious discussion. Stop trolling.

Kravick.4906:

You can beat that encounter in masterwork gear.

This is a serious discussion. Stop trolling.

I get this a lot, I believe someone said I was trolling a week ago when I mentioned just to kill the mobs instead.

We have attempted this encounter with 0 armor, just exotic weapon and jewelry, the combination of those stats is less than a full set of level 80 BLUE gear (minus weapon damage), with 916 base defense for everyone, and we were relatively successful until the very end.

If someones willing to buy my team a full set of masterwork gear I’ll fraps a video of this encounter done in greens. Hopefully people will stop using gear as the excuse for poor play.

It’s not poor play when you get hit for 10k on 3400 armor. Eventually you run out of “endurance” and you have to bend over and take it.

I was getting hit for 10k when I was wearing no armor doign the bombing strat. Clearly, you are doing something wrong.

Joxy.6879:

I was getting hit for 10k when I was wearing no armor doign the bombing strat. Clearly, you are doing something wrong.

What if I provide you screenshots of my stats and the actual 7k+ critical the mob is doing to me. See the mobs don’t always hit me for 10k, but it’s more than enough to do it once. That’s like 80% of my MaxHP and then I’ll waste my heals and when I finally get zerged and run out of endurance, I’ll be a sitting duck, so please

You go from getting hit for 10k on 3400 armor to 7k.. It’s a 3k difference. I don’t understand how, my group, all 5 players wearing almost no survivability gear, maybe some beryl jewel (for more vitality) and with base toughness gear can do the fight without a problem. You make it seems like it’s impossible to do the entire encounter without kiting.
Like I wrote earlier, we have attempted the fight with no armor on, which is basicly base defense and we could take 2 hits.
You want to tell me you’re running around with 3.4k armor and no hp?

@Raven Then post a Screen shot. There is TWO videos posted of players doing it and people then turn it into a gear issue.

Lets be honest if it was a straight “gear” issue most players wouldn’t use 2/3 strat because most pugs use Exotic gear. Most use 2/3 strat because it is a DPS check and it is difficult.

It’s more about build than gear. I can’t do it on my ele since I’m built for durability so we’re not able to kill the mobs fast enough. Though I can tank from 0% to 60% pretty easily.