Guild Wars 2

After seeing the thousands of forum topics about “I got kicked by my pug so they could invite guild members to get the rewards”, my own being one of them, I just had a weird thought:

What’s the personal benefit of pugging a dungeon, fractals especially, and then kicking the pugs in favor of your guild members getting rewards?

PUGs are usually a nightmare and take twice as long as running a dungeon with friends/guild members that you know (and like enough to break the rules for). So for two/three members to sit through 2+ hours of torture playing with random people to give their friends free rewards, why are you going through that trouble, instead of running the dungeons WITH those guild members in LESS THEN HALF THE TIME, for THEM to get a free reward?

If the answer is:

1. They’re too lazy and don’t want to bother running the dungeon: Kick them out of the guild and stop being friends with them. If they’re not going to play the kittening game, why the kitten would you give them rewards? And better question, why do they need good gear anyway if they don’t play the game?

2. They suck to much and can’t beat the dungeons: Gear isn’t going to make them better at the game, playing the game is. And again, why are you rewarding them for sucking?

Neither of the above are personal gains, so the only “valid” reason I can think of:

3. They’re paying you X amount of gold because of 1. or 2.

However, Getting a good group of friends to zerk the dungeon train will give you alot more money and rewards in less time and frustration than the X amount of gold they’re paying you for your aggrivation of dealing with a pug so they can get free rewards.

So, the best answer I can possibly think of is:

4. You like hurting random people on the internet for no personal gain other than the pleasure of knowing you ruined someone else’s day.

Go ahead, admit it. At least you’re being honest. I can respect that much more than justifying it with another bullkitten excuse.

I don’t know, I’ve been kicked from PUG groups at the end of dungeons for that too.

My guess would be that AFTER suffering 2+ hours in a dungeon with terrible PUG’s, the guild members decided to kick them out of anger for wasting their time.

Not defending the actions by any means, but it’s my best guess.

EDIT: Or, maybe, they don’t have any other guild members who run dungeons/fractals so they have to PUG, but the members are their friends so they give them the reward because of it.

The anger thing I can understand, but if they were that bad, they should have been kicked in the first 5 minutes. If you suffer through the entire experience with someone, they deserve the reward as much as you, no matter how bad they were.

The other scenario is definitely a possibilities, but it poses the question, why are you giving your friends a dungeon reward if they don’t run dungeons/fractals? They don’t deserve it. They don’t even need dungeon/fractal rewards if they don’t run dungeons/fractals.

I sometimes give my IRL friends who don’t play the game frequently free gear/gold to help them gear, but that’s out of my own game earnings, and that’s to ENCOURAGE them to do dungeons with me. Rewarding friends for NOT doing a dungeon seems to be the exact opposite effect. There doesn’t seem to be a personal benefit for the person inviting their friends over the pugs, and therefore it doesn’t make sense to me.

I think one of the problem is people no longer are doing dungeon for the dungeon, all they want is the rewards.

Judging from the way I see people rage quit at dredge fractal. I think that’s the case.

Pug are not so bad as people says.
Unless you can only reproduce tactics you saw on youtube and cannot adapt to anything….

But mostly, 2 people giving rewards to 5 is arguably uneffective time wise.

Should be a (perma) bannable behavior, its clearly scam and any other mmorpg permaban for that.