Guild Wars 2

Seriously, you can’t reflect them? Why not? The troll was the sole reason why several AC story groups quit (gotta have more people doing dungeons you know).

His shockwaves basically instantly take down players (everyone was level 50-70 in my groups) and his stun attack is ridiculous. What has me curious is how does a troll even bother to throw blobs of lightning at players and at a rapid rate at that?

For the record, I was a guardian with reflection wall.

This attack is also used by dredge oscillators and some other foes. I suppose it is thematically an earth attack rather than a missile attack but it is annoying.

Stooperdale.3560:

This attack is also used by dredge oscillators and some other foes. I suppose it is thematically an earth attack rather than a missile attack but it is annoying.

You can reflect that dredge oscillator attack. They share the exact same graphic effect, which was the main reason I even attempted reflection, but nope. Can’t be bounced back.

Arenanet why. >:(

There’s a few other projectiles that are immune to reflects / absorbs.
I remember going downed twice in CoE story mode due to this. One time I was using my Thief’s Dagger Storm (which is supposed to reflect any projectiles), yet those lightning orbs from the zappers still hit me. Other time was versus Kudzu in his sniper mode, when he hit me right through my reflect.

Yup, this inconsistency is pretty frustrating.

The shockwaves aren’t too bad because there is a wind up before he uses it. After one party wipe anyone should be able to see when it is coming and dodge. Doesn’t mean it should be unreflectable, but its not that bad.
However, the lightning attack… It hits multiple targets and is unblockable, and it dazes. blind and block are both useless. My guardian only has so many dodges, i even started using judge’s intervention to dodge the shockwaves because i desperately needed my dodges for the lightning and my healing skill’s block doesn’t do anything, ruining the fact that I chose it over a stronger heal.
If the lightning attack was made blockable, or at least nerfed in some other small way, then this fight wouldn’t be so bad.
Do keep in mind that AC is the first dungeon people go to. A monster whose attacks are unblockable, shockwave cant be reflected (i don’t know about the lightning), and uses long range multiple target attacks that daze very frequently is far over the top, even for explorable mode.

Just for the record, you can skip troll in both story and explorable mode. He’s the hardest part of story mode. If your group is about to quit story mode because if him, just skip him; the rest of the dungeon is easier.

AC Troll still needs line of sight in order to throw the lightning orbs. I managed to solo it with a lvl30 engineer just running around a column while using grenades and bombs,

I’ve never been a big fan of LOS tactics however. It’s extremely useful for bunching up mobs and I guess it’s intended (it was used all day long on GW1 too), but many times feels like exploiting a limited AI and makes trivial fights that otherwise could have been interesting (I also accept that I belong to a really small minority that usually finds more fun fighting trash than bosses).
I really think that LOS shouldn’t be the indended tactic for anything, and I agree on this boss needing sme kind of change.

“You can reflect that dredge oscillator attack. They share the exact same graphic effect, which was the main reason I even attempted reflection, but nope. Can’t be bounced back.”

I’ve seen oscillator attacks go through smokescreens in Dredgehaunt cliffs, shadow’s embrace, and also in fractals from the dredge general. I asked guardian friends to test it too and after initially saying it was reflected, both saw the same shots go through the walls and hit them.

Stooperdale.3560:

“You can reflect that dredge oscillator attack. They share the exact same graphic effect, which was the main reason I even attempted reflection, but nope. Can’t be bounced back.”

I’ve seen oscillator attacks go through smokescreens in Dredgehaunt cliffs, shadow’s embrace, and also in fractals from the dredge general. I asked guardian friends to test it too and after initially saying it was reflected, both saw the same shots go through the walls and hit them.

Just tested this with wall of reflection in Dredgehaunt cliffs. Wall of reflection does reflect shockwave. You can still be hit by the tremors if you’re practically on top of the wall, since the projectile has a pretty big hitbox and doesn’t bounce back until it’s inside / partway through the wall, but they are still reflected.

The dredge general from the fractals might be different, I don’t know since I have no experience with him, but I’m quite certain the attacks in Sorrow’s Embrace can also be reflected.

I’ll give you that. In many of these fights we may have just been behind the walls. Unfortunately, right behind the wall is usually just where I stand within a sword swipe of the enemy.

The fractal ones behave the same way: they go through a little bit and then reflect. Tested ad nauseum with my Mesmer’s Temporal Curtain. . .

But, yeah, unreflectable projectiles are one of my major pet peeves about this game. . .