Guild Wars 2

I just went into AC for the first time since the patch (the horror… the horror… the horror… ), so that I could get myself a new Sceptre.

When I entered the dungeon I had 276 Tears. One stack of 250 and one stack of 26.

Not knowing abut the changes that apparently make ranged combat mandatory in AC now (I was on a GS/Mace Guardian), I went to buy my Sceptre after p1… Only to find that I had 286 Tears.

I logged on, after a break of about 10 hours, did Jormag and Maw, and talked to someone for about 15 minutes before entering the dungeon, and hadn’t done the dungeon since a few hours before the patch. This couldn’t be DR.

I had a whinge in party chat about being gypped and then opened the Bags of Wonderous Goods and had enough to buy the Sceptre – 302 Tears. One stack of 250, one stack of 52. So I went ahead and bought the Sceptre…

And then when I went into my inventory to equip it, I discovered that there were 40 Tears where the partial stack used to be. But it still doesn’t add up.

276 + 60 = 336.
That’s what I should have had before opening the Bags. Instead I had 286.

286 + 16 = 302.
That’s what i got after opening the Wonderous Bags.

The Sceptre cost 300 Tears.
336 + 16 = 352
352 – 300 = 52.
That’s what I should have had left. 52. Instead, I have 40.

No matter how I look at this, it just doesn’t add up.

Are you sure that you got 16 tokens from bags? Seeing how you get 3 tokens per bags, I would think that you got 20 from completing the dungeon and 6 from opening 2 bags.

You said that you took a 10 hour break, but did the daily reset in between your 2 runs? Otherwise you are supposed to only get 20 tokens from dungeon completion for your 2nd run before reset.

Edit: guess I missed what you were saying about finding extra tokens. But I think you counted wrong somewhere since opening bags can not net you 16 (3 per bag).

Bags are multiples of three. Receiving 16 tokens from bags should not happen. Also, 10 hour break does not negate diminishing returns. Only does it reset after a 24 hour period. Normally this resets at 7pm EST / 4pm PST / 00:00 UTC.

The DR goes something like: 60/20/10/5/2

You can max out at 4 bags per run (Troll/Kholer/Spider/King).

Assuming DR…

Start: 276
Path1: 20 tokens + 4 (bags, opened only 2): 302
Path1 again(with help from 10h+other things): 20 tokens + 4bags +2 unopened: 340
Bought scepter: 40

The math can technically work out :P

One problem with that theory… When I mentioned 10 hours since last playing, you missed the fact that it was 3-4 days since the patch, and this was my first time in AC (or any adungeon except SE) since the patch. DR just couldn’t be a factor.

I know the number from the Bags is wrong, none of this makes sense. It seems as if there was a display bug which was simply showing very wrong numbers.

I should point out that after doing path 2 (we didn’t do p3), I had 108 Tears after opening all Bags (I missed a few due to being dead). Again, however, it doesn’t add up. 40 + 60 + 3 Bags = 109.

EDIT: I can see how my wording may have been confusing. I only did one run of AC, my first, and thus far only, run since the patch. This run happened after a 10 hour break followed by Maw and Jormag.

well your story doesn’t add up either

at first you stated that you started with 276 tokens. in the middle of the story you changed that to 286 before opening bags (whut? when is that? before or after dungeon reward?)

well lets ignore that. fast forward:

you state that you have ended with 302 tokens. bought something for 300.. and ended with 40 tokens? seriously? 302 minus 300 definitely ain’t 40

now if we skip all nonsense and look from theoretical side:

276 + 60 + 6 + 60 + 6 – 300 = 108

if you start with 276, you need 2 runs, and 4 bags to end up with 108

seems like memory is not your friend, and math is your enemy

Am I typing in Swahili? I quite clearly said that when I started the dungeon I had 276 and when i finished it I had 286. Did you bother to look at the very simple arithmetic I included? 276 + 60 = 336. Instead, I left the dungeon with 286. I then opened Bags and had 302. After closing my inventory, buying the Sceptre for 300 and then opening my inventory a few minutes later, I found that instead of 2 Tears I had 40.

By your own math: 276 + 60 + 6 = 342
342 – 300 = 42
NOT 40.

Again I will say that it seems like a display bug, which your math demonstrates. 108 is the correct amount I should have left over after two paths but it is the [i]incorrect[i] amount based on the 40 displayed in my inventory (38 of which appeared out of nowhere after buying the Sceptre) at the start of the second run (40 + 60 + 9 = 109).