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Posted by: CardsLafter.3698

CardsLafter.3698

I should not have to bring an Elementalist to do a dungeon.

As a warrior that spec’d into Defense and Arms, I am useless when it comes to breaking down these burrows. So is my buddy, who went Gun-Engineer.

ArenaNet, this is supposed to be the first dungeon, yet it is the only one that I am unable to enjoy. The troll in story is pretty bad, but is manageable. The Spider Queen requires a hell of a lot more effort than it should…

But the rogue that pulls everyone in and downs the entire group before your frantic ‘V’ spamming fails to save you…

Both instances of Graveling burrows. This wouldn’t be so bad it it weren’t for the fact that the Silver Gravelings have a SIX SECOND COOLDOWN ON THEIR KNOCKDOWN! Do you realize how anti-fun it is to watch my warrior bounce around the ground because four Gravelings are juggling her like a circus act?

Do you seriously think this is fun? Because it isn’t. Not even when we went to fetch a kitten Elementalist to break the burrows. Winning like that was not fun. It was infuriating. And I don’t want to have to do that.

Make it winnable for 80s that deal condition damage, would ya?

I’ve no problem moving onto other games if the big cooperative gameplay experiences are going to be rife with this sort of poorly thought out content. Because soloing is boring enough without living with the knowledge that a few select dungeons are beyond me to contribute to.

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Posted by: ParnAshwind.4823

ParnAshwind.4823

Umm… all you need is a Greatsword…. ya… conditional damage build sux big time against structure only but.. a warrior shouldnt have that much problem because…

Arms = 20% Faster 100 Blade, Whirlwind…

Even without a GreatSword…

Defense = 25% longer Stance Duration , Auto Balance Stance, Active Balance Stance, Dolyak Signet Activation Stability, Auto Endure Pain, Active Endure Pain.

“Shake It Off” Gets you back on ur feet…

Shield as offhand lets u activate block and run around with 3s block…

EDIT: p/s I agree it is unfair to some classes but not warrior imo.

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Posted by: Brave Sir Ryan.1240

Brave Sir Ryan.1240

ANY melee character can run circles around burrows and kill them solo, regardless of how many gravelings you are being chased by.

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Posted by: Oolune.4357

Oolune.4357

You kind of hurt your own argument when you said “frantic V spam.”

Because, you know, there is simple timing to it you can learn. Maybe he wouldn’t be as hard if you did.

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Posted by: Ninth Requiem.3250

Ninth Requiem.3250

Warrior is actually OK. I’ve been in that dungeon specced the same way. What you do need to do is change weapon and major trait options. Personally, all my characters carry around all weapon options they can use (which gets problematic for warrior given space).

Necromancer, however, has serious problems, and because of that I do agree that condition-users need to be able to help break objects.

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Posted by: JustCurious.3457

JustCurious.3457

For Kohler (not sure the spelling) stability helps a lot so having a Guardian helps for that, he can’t pull you with that on, I also think it has a limited range and can be dodged(?), not sure on that though. Most people skip him because he can be annoying to fight.
You shouldn’t be having problems with burrows if you are a warrior. On path one where you need to take down the burrows and protect the NPC just have someone stay with him and aggro all the gravelings while everyone else bursts down the burrows, that is the only place I actually have trouble with, if it goes wrong it is usually because the NPC went down.
Unfortunately condition damage doesn’t help with breaking things and I agree that it should help with objects.

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Posted by: Sacrai.6280

Sacrai.6280

For Kohler (not sure the spelling) stability helps a lot so having a Guardian helps for that, he can’t pull you with that on, I also think it has a limited range and can be dodged(?), not sure on that though. Most people skip him because he can be annoying to fight.

It can and should be dodged. The animation for that move is 3 seconds long. Also, stability, projectile reflection, hiding behind a pillar and outranging it works. This boss is here for that particular reason, teaching you how to avoid the boss’ special attack. Skipping him will only carry that problem onto the next encounter with a huge attack that should be avoided.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

Dub.1273

Remove conditiondamage and defensive gear out of PvE.
It has it’s place in PvP but just makes people complain about “things beeing too hard, can’t deal enough damage”.

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Posted by: Hobocop.1508

Hobocop.1508

Or….they can leave it in and improve it so that it does have it’s place in PvE instead. Damage vs objects is a good starting point, then they can look at stack limits so you don’t get boned by having too many condi specs in one group.

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Posted by: Nay of the Ether.8913

Nay of the Ether.8913

man o man I hope you never attempt it on necro since we have zero access to vigor, gl spamming dodge lol, and one of our few high damaging weapon sets for burrows are melee range haha…yet we can do it, so can you. Kite and attack, all there is to it

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Posted by: yan.9513

yan.9513

Rly, why make changes in AC was good before this is the first dungeon for lvl 35, was a lot of low lvls doing it and now if you are below 80 you get kicked from group.

I honestly dunno why they make Ascalon harder than Citatel of Flame, after all it is the first dungeon of the game level 35 should serve as learning and not as something kitten only level 80 in full exotics etc. .. the way it was before was very good doable with level 35 in blue / green gear.
Now you need to pray to dont get kicked from group cause you arent 80 or wait for years to get an group.

ArenaNet thanks for ending the fun of who was level 35
Groups now want only level 80

In my opinion its just a game was suposed to be fun and enjoyable not a pain or stupid hard thing only for pro geared ultra mega combo hardcore ppl.

http://www.gw2lfg.com/ check it for only 80 on lfg for ascalon and try to get in a group with an lvl 35.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

Ayrilana.1396

People were getting kicked before the update. It’s not that difficult. You just need to learn the mechanics which can be done outside of the game by reading guides and watching videos. The dungeon was way too easy before.

I also disagree that this should be an easy dungeon just because level 35 players can do it. With it being incredibly easy before the update, players did not learn anything. They saw the red circles from the spider and stood in it. You can just read the posts of these people who supposedly ran dungeons all the time now fail because they never learned the mechanics.

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Posted by: Chopps.5047

Chopps.5047

We clear this pretty easily and I run ranger so my advice is: watch successful dungeon runs on youtube and practice. GW2 is a game that requires skill in the place of gear gating / gear grind. Remember those old school games that were actually hard to beat? GW2 sort of pays homage to that.

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