Guild Wars 2

I will openly criticize any person in any AC pug I do for wanting to use the stairs.

Is it really difficult to pull the boss to the far corner of the to and let the adds run THEMSELVES into the fire rings? No, it’s not, and if you don’t use Cleric’s gear, you’ll kill him before the adds even decide to think about becoming a problem.

Both of the “strategies” you posted are stupid for individual reasons. The first one leaves you RIGHT NEAR ADD SPAWN (oh wow this could never backfire) and the 2nd one is an ENORMOUS waste of time kiting him up the stairs, and attacking through invulnerability shifts because of terrain issues.

Save yourself the trouble and just aggro or pull him to the back corner of the room.

Reported for spreading atrocious glitch tactics that only help to lower the already low skill level of PuG players. Organised teams can kill him in 3 seconds, whilst this is hardly expected from PuGs you can still just DPS him down before getting buried in too many adds.

Dolan.3071:

Reported for spreading atrocious glitch tactics that only help to lower the already low skill level of PuG players. Organised teams can kill him in 3 seconds, whilst this is hardly expected from PuGs you can still just DPS him down before getting buried in too many adds.

These tactics are already spread all over the community. When you pug people expect you to know that, and if you try to do different they will kick you.

Now with the new lfg tool its very fast to make a group but people are kicking others even faster. I was in a AC group that wiped on the spider twice, so after the second fail they just kicked the ranger with 1k achievement points, and it wasn’t the red aoe circles that killed us, it was all the group’s fault because no one had condition removal.

So the more experienced members of gw2 community expect everyone to know how to glitch fights and just kick if you try to do something different.

Honestly the stairs method is dumb as hell and in the time it takes to setup, the boss would probably be dead from melee burst dmg. Seriously, you can see the boss start-up for breath/laser attacks a mile away and simply lure adds into fire circles to be instagibbed. The extent to which players do to attack “safely” in this game is ridiculous.

known group → do it the normal way and burst down
pugs → don’t trust, stack them somewhere safe where i know the biggest kitten wont die.

You just took such a brow beating that I feel that I must jump in and acknowledge that you are just trying to help people even though I have written much much worse rants, which have been removed for me, about this. Kitten it grats on finishing the path however you did it. You have to try doing path 3 boss without stacking in the corner though. My small guild just four manned it tonight under the warmaster’s bubble. Two hunters, a thief, and an ele. Its way easier than you think.

I always take the side of the underdog for some reason. Lol after the revamp I personally made twenty looking for 4 noob groups, ran them through path 3, and showed them how to stack the boss. Im convinced they then each showed four people the same thing and so on. Then I came on the forums and kittened about not being able to do a run where everyone didnt cheese it. I am shamed.

Slither Shade.4782:

I must jump in and acknowledge that you are just trying to help people(…)

Yes, he’s trying to help, but he’s not actually helping. And it’s not even to be rude or cynical, it’s just point blank: the boss isn’t hard if you just pay attention to what’s happening. 90% of the adds literally kill themselves trying to get to you if you just camp in the back corner. It’s faster and easier.

I’m sure a person would be “just trying to help” if they gave salt water to someone dying of thirst, but when the help is in fact more detrimental, well… it’s hardly a net loss to correct them.

LostBalloon.6423:

known group -> do it the normal way and burst down
pugs -> don’t trust, stack them somewhere safe where i know the biggest kitten wont die.

Known group – burst it down
Pugs – Are they kiting the mobs after spider for no reason? Y/N?
Y – Leave the group, save yourself from the trouble.
N – Burst it down.

This boss is super easy why do u need any stratagy for him. Range him with dps kite in circles and doge his uber attacks pull spawns into flaming circles which one shot them. The mobs only ever kill u if u stack the boss and they all converge on you cause u are in one group.

anyone who uses the stairs exploit should do themselves a favour and uninstall

in a PUG I just walk in and start hitting the boss. tbh I’ve only encountered this twice – once in a random group and another in a semi-guild run (the guy swapped out to his lowbie midway through the run and requested that we use the exploit… dolan was not pleased and the next moment the PUG was in the Plains of Ashford).

Hey I asked him nicely to get off his lvl 30-whatever Necro, I even offered to hold the cutscene so he could swap it in at the end. I do that everytime I do AC and CoE without being a leech

Also Fafnir why range? It’s not like he has any melee attacks, I see that as higher risk because lower DPS = higher chance of getting swarmed.

I just go along with whatever. If I PUG, I already expect it to take 10-15 more minutes than normal.

Honestly this would be an incredibly easy fix for Anet. I know they don’t like putting an invisible wall, but just put one before the stairs until they can get around to a better fix.

The fact that they haven’t even tried to fix this (they fixed the spider spot in the revamp) makes me think they couldn’t care less (of course they won’t say that though)

I love pulling the boss away from the stairs… its usually fun to see the bad pugs die in the stairs from adds while the rest fight him on the corner.

Pulling to the stairs doesn’t even work half the time

I was in one group that tried it 3x in a row and suffered multiple deaths as it kept failing to work … only to resign themselves to doing the fight the way it was intended and then only having 1 person actually die during it. * shakes head *