Guild Wars 2

This one is new to me. You jump/climb up onto a spot where the end boss can’t touch you and range them to death without fear of reprisal. Now, I could understand a fresh team of lvl 35’s doing this, but all my parties have been all lvl80’s.

Really now, doing this to poor ol’ AC? How very unsporting! This is not Arah we’re talking, a dungeon that throws every dirty little trick the game has at you. It’s just AC!

I don’t expect people to do this, and I get caught in combat with two melee weapons and have to /sleep through the entire encounter, lol

No, you can only abuse it in path 1.

Colossus would just rock you to death.

It was done in my team’s path 3 a couple of hours ago.

Annoys me as well. Makes the boss take longer and for what? To glitch an incredibly easy boss?

Or they’re running with a bad party. Trust me, I’ve seen some pretty bad parties in AC…

Or they’ve killed the same boss a million times and just want to afk auto-attack and go make a sandwich? People are going to take the path of least resistance, it’s human nature.

Fresh 80’s in bad gear who only have that one level 80 toon would struggle in AC. I think our view is jaded by the fact that a lot of people have multiple 80’s and AC isn’t hard to anybody with exotics. Not trying to justify people doing whatever in AC.

I haven’t done any dungeons run since late October, since I did so many of them prior (10 hours a day of dungeons). I got so bored of it, recently I just start doing them again for less than a week. Pretty much every dungeons every path people can only terrain glitch, port through doors or abuse some broken game mechanic to beat the dungeon when most of them can be done as fast if not faster just go do it normally if they just know what they are doing.

elderan.2638:

Or they’ve killed the same boss a million times and just want to afk auto-attack and go make a sandwich? People are going to take the path of least resistance, it’s human nature.

my answer C:

I don’t have anything against glitches and exploits but this is kittening stupid, it just takes longer, same level of stupidity as “troll on Kholer”. I’m all for the speed.

First off, it only works on P1. Colossus burrows away.

Second, Shae you’re (again :P) completely wrong, -Troll on Kholer- is much faster cause you can meanwhile do traps on detha/burrows on hodgins (only tzark would take too long), while you get 2 bosses down. So no matter your dmg, even if it took you literally 20seconds to kill each of these bosses, 3in1 is still faster.

Lastly yeah i dont mind you fixing the Howling King bug, its nice for a coffee break but not necessary.

Krag.6210:

I don’t have anything against glitches and exploits but this is kittening stupid, it just takes longer, same level of stupidity as “troll on Kholer”. I’m all for the speed.

I think Anet secretly intended for us to pull the troll to Kholer and let them fight as the troll was hidden to us and players have to look for it. Employing that tactic is a reward for being adventurous. Plus Kholer is the hardest boss in AC exp imo so Anet gave us a hidden trick to make the fight easier.

EDIT: I think my point is that pulling the troll to Kholer is smart use of the environment given to you and is not a tactic that should be regarded as an exploit.

Ferny.8250:

Plus Kholer is the hardest boss in AC exp imo

lol yeah cause using dodge when Kholer starts to shine is “hard” XD

I’d have to agree with the above poster regarding the Cave Troll vs Lt. Kholer fight. They could’ve just put the Cave Troll in the Ghost faction as well and they wouldn’t aggro each other. The fact that they didn’t make such an easy fix suggests to me that it was intended for the Cave Troll to be able to fight any Ghost in there.

Plus, you’re really shooting yourself in the foot if you let them fight; if you kill them both you will end up with two Wondrous Bags but if you let them fight there is a strong possibility that you get none because your party did not earn loot rights due to not doing the majority of the damage to either the Cave Troll or Lt. Kholer!

Bartho.7896:

Ferny.8250:

Plus Kholer is the hardest boss in AC exp imo

lol yeah cause using dodge when Kholer starts to shine is “hard” XD

Not sure if I should be angry at this post for picking something out of what I said or grateful because I have been banging my head against my desk wondering how to deal with Kholer’s pulling whirlwind projectile spin of doom.

I don’t like using this….strategy…, since it makes it take longer.
And it’s a really easy fight.
But some people will not be denied.
Oh, and I hear you can do it for P3, but it’s dicey.

the exploit with path 1 boss will most likely disappear in tomorrows patch. problem solved until new bugs/exploits is found.

Bartho.7896:

Troll on Kholer- is much faster cause blah blah

90% of the groups will just pull them and stand there watching their life bar deplete when it takes half the time to kill them separatly, that’s what I meant.

Yeah, I hate this exploit, and REFUSE to do it. I’ve been in a couple groups where I am the only one meleeing.

If that’s the way people want to play(exploit), so be it, I won’t be doing it.

I have only seen it pop up in recently, must be a new spate of just terrible players who need to glitch to win.

Ferny.8250:

Bartho.7896:

Ferny.8250:

Plus Kholer is the hardest boss in AC exp imo

lol yeah cause using dodge when Kholer starts to shine is “hard” XD

Not sure if I should be angry at this post for picking something out of what I said or grateful because I have been banging my head against my desk wondering how to deal with Kholer’s pulling whirlwind projectile spin of doom.

Or tell the Guardian in yer party to learn how to poop Stability or Aegis.

Krag.6210:

Bartho.7896:

Troll on Kholer- is much faster cause blah blah

90% of the groups will just pull them and stand there watching their life bar deplete when it takes half the time to kill them separatly, that’s what I meant.

Then say it next time, dont call a great trick that saves a lot time by doing 3 things in one stupid. Cause that only makes you stupid.

Ferny.8250:

Bartho.7896:

Ferny.8250:

Plus Kholer is the hardest boss in AC exp imo

lol yeah cause using dodge when Kholer starts to shine is “hard” XD

Not sure if I should be angry at this post for picking something out of what I said or grateful because I have been banging my head against my desk wondering how to deal with Kholer’s pulling whirlwind projectile spin of doom.

he reaches back with his sword. that’s when you dodge.

Robert Hrouda.1327:

The glitch where a boss can’t fight back will be fixed this patch.

Hooray.

Standing on those stars is REALLY pathetic. How do people expect to handle dungeons like CoE or Arah if they can’t even handle freaking AC path 1?

I’ve had to kick/block more than my fair share of cowards.

Robert Hrouda.1327:

The glitch where a boss can’t fight back will be fixed this patch.

Does this mean the ’’glitch’’ where you can stand ontop of a lamp post in Arah to avoid the aoe from Crusher will be fixed too?

Ferny.8250:

Krag.6210:

I don’t have anything against glitches and exploits but this is kittening stupid, it just takes longer, same level of stupidity as “troll on Kholer”. I’m all for the speed.

I think Anet secretly intended for us to pull the troll to Kholer and let them fight as the troll was hidden to us and players have to look for it. Employing that tactic is a reward for being adventurous. Plus Kholer is the hardest boss in AC exp imo so Anet gave us a hidden trick to make the fight easier.

EDIT: I think my point is that pulling the troll to Kholer is smart use of the environment given to you and is not a tactic that should be regarded as an exploit.

I agree with you. Unlike most exploits, this seems like something that could reasonably happen from a story perspective. Fighting an angry ghost, stumbling onto a big, angry troll, and withdrawing as they rage at each other. Reminds me of something from a book (not The Book of Exploits).

Given that the majority of gamers don’t read the forums, there is likely to be some very surprised and po’d parties in AC soon, lol.

Raf.1078:

Given that the majority of gamers don’t read the forums, there is likely to be some very surprised and po’d parties in AC soon, lol.

hehe exactly I even seen people restart the instance when they couldnt bug boss into stairs (he was resetting all the time).

Oglaf.1074:

I don’t expect people to do this, and I get caught in combat with two melee weapons and have to /sleep through the entire encounter, lol

All things considered, AC is a pretty boring dungeon. So much that rather than the entire encounter, I want to /sleep through the entire dungeon. I did it way too much that it makes me sleepy.

This boss fight can go 2x faster if you melee him. It’s very annoying that parties choose to cliff range him and take 2x longer to finish.

Robert Hrouda.1327:

The glitch where a boss can’t fight back will be fixed this patch.

maybe get your lazy finger out of your behinds and actually start banning people who so blatently abuse bugs and glitches? so we could actually do an instance with pugs without EVERY dungeon being exploited like crazy?!

maybe do your kitten job? doesnt that sound like an AWESOME idea for once -.-

its a joke how the cheaters are handled in this game… a kittening joke…. and its killing the game.. can’t wait till wildstar(or the next intertaining mmo) comes out, hopefully they will handle blatant cheaters with more consequence….

elderan.2638:

Or they’ve killed the same boss a million times and just want to afk auto-attack and go make a sandwich? People are going to take the path of least resistance, it’s human nature.

Being bored of running the dungeon is not excuse to exploit. If your not having fun playing the video game then perhaps do something else that is fun.

Erebus.7568:

can’t wait till wildstar(or the next intertaining mmo) comes out, hopefully they will handle blatant cheaters with more consequence….

Not going to happen, no one shares your definition of cheating. Doesn’t it make you sad to be so alone?

Exploiters should be banned. Anet needs to be stricter when swinging the ban hammer. Of course not granting refunds after, too!

I’d rather Anet just fix the exploits when they are reported instead of sitting on the issue for months on end.

FlyingK.9720:

I’d rather Anet just fix the exploits when they are reported instead of sitting on the issue for months on end.

You do know that many class bugs, PvE DE bugs, and heart bugs, item bugs, and so forth get reported and don’t get resolved for months, right? Heck, some still haven’t been resolved.

Phoenix.7845:

Erebus.7568:

can’t wait till wildstar(or the next intertaining mmo) comes out, hopefully they will handle blatant cheaters with more consequence….

Not going to happen, no one shares your definition of cheating. Doesn’t it make you sad to be so alone?

actually every mmo throughout the last 15 years with 2 exceptions which i can mention but sure. let us wonder in your great knowledge -.-

edit: not even wow with its extreme playerbase and constant mainstream theme allows blatently exploiting -.-

Erebus.7568:

actually every mmo throughout the last 15 years with 2 exceptions which i can mention but sure. let us wonder in your great knowledge -.-

I bet they also let you insult devs in those MMOs as well.

edit: not even wow with its extreme playerbase and constant mainstream theme allows blatently exploiting -.-

If you consider skipping (which is ok for the devs) and dodging (game mechanics) as exploiting and cheating then don’t get surprised people don’t get banned. I hope you didn’t played GW1, it would be a nightmare for you.

dungeons get boring… these little exploits keep them fun

I don’t understand you people to be very honest. Standing on a perfectly well placed ledge is called cheating? There is no cheating nor glitching in dropping from a stair down to a ledge where the boss can’t reach you – that is called a strategy (rather dirty one if anything). A glitch is where you seek your way through a map or something that is OBVIOUSLY not intended to be performed. A bug is something that causes and unpredicted out-come. Let’s keep these expressions apart from now on, okay?

I don’t like glitchers, and I don’t see any good reason as to why I should subdue to it. However, you people frighten me when you start to pull up reasonable things as “glitches” – again I don’t perform this strategy when I’m in AC. Walking straight through a wall is an obvious glitch. HOWEVER standing on a random place is NOT a glitch and NOT a viable cause to ban someone. It is frightening to not know what you can and can’t do since you people define something as simple as gaining ground a glitch and viable cause to ban.

Just for the sake of discussion:
whatever happened to “play however you chose to”? All I see is how more and more people are getting herded into this huge chunk of gray goo. “That is not what we meant with play however you chose to, we meant that you should chose to play like this.” Very, very disappointing.

If you need to cheat AC…well IDK…

iFocus.3781:

I don’t understand you people to be very honest. Standing on a perfectly well placed ledge is called cheating? There is no cheating nor glitching in dropping from a stair down to a ledge where the boss can’t reach you – that is called a strategy (rather dirty one if anything). A glitch is where you seek your way through a map or something that is OBVIOUSLY not intended to be performed. A bug is something that causes and unpredicted out-come.

It is an unintended outcome. If you stand on the same ledge out in open world pve, and the mob can not retaliate, it will become invulnerable to you and will reset hp. Since the bosses of AC have “ranged” abilities, the game engine was interpreting it as they could retaliate. However, you were standing in a location that would not be hit, which should have caused the boss to reset.

Either way, it should be fixed now anyhow.

iFocus.3781:

Just for the sake of discussion:
whatever happened to “play however you chose to”? All I see is how more and more people are getting herded into this huge chunk of gray goo. “That is not what we meant with play however you chose to, we meant that you should chose to play like this.” Very, very disappointing.

“Play how you choose” never, ever meant exploiting, hacking, cheating, or justification for a completely unbalanced game.

people don’t NEED to cheat AC. they do it so they can tab out and check their email whilst fighting.

i tab out while tanking gaheron. people are always going to find the easiest way. take away the stairs? that’s fine, they’ll find something else.

Oh my god people, soon it’ll be considered cheating to have “bait” during Detha’s chain challenge. Clearly you’re exploiting the fact that gravelings (for the most part) go for the nearest target and are using this “glitch” to keep them on the traps… If the game allows it, then it is strategy, if you are using a foreign program to interfere with your actions within the game, THEN IT IS CALLED CHEATING.

Dolan.3071:

Oh my god people, soon it’ll be considered cheating to have “bait” during Detha’s chain challenge. Clearly you’re exploiting the fact that gravelings (for the most part) go for the nearest target and are using this “glitch” to keep them on the traps… If the game allows it, then it is strategy, if you are using a foreign program to interfere with your actions within the game, THEN IT IS CALLED CHEATING.

Um… no. It’s an obvious fault in the code, are you daft? Your subjective interpretation of the word cheating isn’t set in stone, your is it remotely applicable to anything outside your control.

Xynn.2748:

If you need to cheat AC…well IDK…

^ This. You should probably uninstall your game and just go back to playing Tea Party with some dolls because if you can’t legit do AC, you just aren’t good.

Also, in most cases a “clever us of game mechanics/terrain” is exploiting. A spot where you can hit a mob but he can’t hit you? Terrain exploit. I remember back in the day when mobs would evade bug if you tried that and instantly reset HP.

Papaj.9035:

Xynn.2748:

If you need to cheat AC…well IDK…

^ This. You should probably uninstall your game and just go back to playing Tea Party with some dolls because if you can’t legit do AC, you just aren’t good.

Also, in most cases a “clever us of game mechanics/terrain” is exploiting. A spot where you can hit a mob but he can’t hit you? Terrain exploit. I remember back in the day when mobs would evade bug if you tried that and instantly reset HP.

I think almost everyone use this ‘strategy’ can do the normal way to kill boss anyway.

They just start to be lazy to fight when they are playing this like hundreds times already.