Anet and Fractals

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Posted by: joeytan.3865

joeytan.3865

Hello I’m making this post cos I feel Anet is getting ridiculous with fractals.

First lets talk about what they did with the current update.The cd on spykits was directly targeted at FOTM I would say, as no other dungeon requires this. Esp on dredge its gonna be slightly harder for inexperienced groups or one without a thief. Although its gonna be harder at higher lvls ie 30+, its not impossible, for groups who are not very experienced or skillfull. Before the patch I would rather not go pug higher lvl fotm if my group wasn’t online. After this HELL NO, pugs will take too long. Also for ppl who pug them I forsee ppl asking for specific classes. So does Anet take all this into consideration before making changes?

Second there are still a few frustrating bugs in Fotm such as the Kraits getting stuck in the ceiling, which has been around since Fotm started but Anet can’t fix that? I know its not a huge bug but still shows how much commitment they have to making the dungeon better rather then harder. This can be also seen in the case of the legendary grawl shaman and the mossman. Lower fractal groups have alot of problems with them and what does Anet do about it? NADAAAAA. Actually i’ve seen higher lvl groups having problem with this as well, another reason why I usually don pug.

Thirdly why in the world would be give ascended gear in rewards systems which have nothing to do with fractals? Ok I know there have been kids crying about ascended gear being available to only ppl only doing fractals. Then just introduce the amulet and any new ascended gear to the fotm vendor and leave the rest in the laurel vendor. That way everyone has a chance on getting it. What the hell happened to playing the game the way you want it to. Takes way to long for doing lame dailies to get a freaking amulet, as I mentioned is previous post in that 20 days it take to get a amulet, I can get 2 rings and 1 capacitor using fractals.

Fourthly why is there still no recipe to infuse the amulet yet? How long do you want us to be be stuck on 49? Also I was reading the forums and ppl have been posting that they can’t infuse rings with the new stats released on the update. I can’t confirm it as I haven’t bought them but if its true, then its just a bit kitten

Fifth the dumb system of allowing players in a group to the highest lvl of the person in the group. Cos of this there are so many derps on higher lvls, everyone is so paranoid or doubts of pugs. All you guys had to do is restrict players to their own tier, eg 1-9, 10-11. Another mark taken away from pugging.

Sixth, there is still nothing that can be done with all the excess relics, rings and crafting materials. So many patches have passed since this was brought up, but still nothing.

Finally to those ppl reading this PLSSS take a few more mins to take a look at the previous post about Fotm. You guy would realise something. NO ONE FROM ANET REPLIES TO ANY TO OF THEM UNLESS THEY ARE CLOSING THE POST OR IF IT ABOUT ANET NOT CHANGING THE LOOT DROP IN FOTM . I went back about 5 or 6 pages to confirm this. WHY DOES ANET NOT REPLY TO ALMOST ANY OF THE POST ABOUT FRACTALS????

From all these there are few conclusions that can be derived.
1 – They released a dungeon which is unpolished, unrefined, full thought out and simply ill conceived.
2 – Due to their failure in fore sight, other places in the game are losing population size, thus they are trying to force ppl away from doing Fotm.
3 – The guy/team incharge of developing fractals should be fired as they have clearly failed in the creation of this dungeon and mitigation of its problems.

(edited by joeytan.3865)

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Posted by: Zach.2618

Zach.2618

i dont think they’re forcing people away from fotms now since they just made other dungeons harderXD but i agree with your post:D freaking spider hatchlings in ac..

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Posted by: Lanser.8520

Lanser.8520

Fractals seems to be on the backburner for them while they work on other projects. This month was Guild month. Next month will be WvW month. Hopefully after that, they pay attention to some of the problems and balancing issues, but I don’t have my hopes up very high.

It was released in a sloppy state, but it is now playable after some fixes and improvments. However, dredge and colossus are overly long for what fractals was meant to be, and volcano scales badly at higher levels. And the reward system is broken, unrewarding, frustrating, and goes against the established reward systems in every other part of the game save precursors.

And the majority of people I talk to hate the precursor system. Even Anet wants to change it.

Some fixes have resulted in dredge becoming longer, sometimes up to 90 minutes at high levels. It is still very much doable, but each fix makes the fractal disproportionately longer than it should be. Volcano relies on reflection skills because of the strength of the spawned adds, with no other playstyle being valid. Colossus has been the same as it always was (really well designed if a bit long).

All in all, its disappointing since 3 months have gotten me almost no where in fractals, but I do think they will eventually come back to it. When is the question.

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

LordByron.8369

yeah tell me how players are supposed to survive with an elementalist standing still on the Platform….

I said this many times and you knowwhat i was answered?

Use spykits…..

Notice how dredge Attacks bypass ele shields also….just to be sure the only thing you can do is dye on a switch….

LF4m guardians warriors for fotm

No more fotm for me it seems.
Ty anet….every patch you take something away rather than adding.

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: Sticks.9374

Sticks.9374

yeah tell me how players are supposed to survive with an elementalist standing still on the Platform….

I said this many times and you knowwhat i was answered?

Use spykits…..

Notice how dredge Attacks bypass ele shields also….just to be sure the only thing you can do is dye on a switch….

LF4m guardians warriors for fotm

No more fotm for me it seems.
Ty anet….every patch you take something away rather than adding.

My group is me(mesmer) 2 guards a thief and an ele. 1 guard helps ele on one platform other one helps me on mine and me and that guard keep adds off of thief on panel. It’s not that hard to do, you should try it it works great. Yes you can do with 4 or 5 guards but its defiantly really easy with only 1 or 2.

I still cant not believe that people think that cheesing anything is any viable way to do anything. It’s how you don’t get better at figuring things out…….

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

LordByron.8369

[My group is me(mesmer) 2 guards…….

.

This is what is making me sick….

Stop saying its easy…

You know how bad were things before patctch with at least 1 guardian being mandatory for almost any Group?

Now we need more….

So OP PVE classes get more OP while other weak pve classes get huge stealth nerfs…..

This is why players hate updates …

Anet updates spoil people fun without adding nothing but grind.

They want us to play the class they like doing the content they like how they like….every patch its more of this…

The content is not easy…simply there are hugely OP classes that aren t being dealt with that is all.

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: joeytan.3865

joeytan.3865

Whoa now the ascended earrings can be bought with laurels and guild commendations but not by fractal relics? WTF Anet?
Seriously isn’t it getting more and more obvious that they are trying to screw over ppl doing fractals and get us out of it.
Its ridiculous how your screwing up the one of the more sort after dungeons in GW2 with exception to AC and CoF.

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Posted by: mdapol.8530

mdapol.8530

Thirdly why in the world would be give ascended gear in rewards systems which have nothing to do with fractals? Ok I know there have been kids crying about ascended gear being available to only ppl only doing fractals. Then just introduce the amulet and any new ascended gear to the fotm vendor and leave the rest in the laurel vendor. That way everyone has a chance on getting it. What the hell happened to playing the game the way you want it to. Takes way to long for doing lame dailies to get a freaking amulet, as I mentioned is previous post in that 20 days it take to get a amulet, I can get 2 rings and 1 capacitor using fractals.

You’re not supposed to gear up with ascended gear as fast with laurels are you are by running the actual fractals. That is intentional. Would you want to go into a level 54 fractal with someone who has never done them and has obtained all their gear from dailies and monthlies? It’s just supposed to be a way to -supplement- running fractals.

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Posted by: joeytan.3865

joeytan.3865

UHh what the hell are u on about. I am saying that all ascended gear should be available in fractals, because only ascended gear can be infused to give AR. And AR is unique to only fotm. So it doesnt make sense that its available through laurels or guild missions but not in Fotm itself. They should be made available in all 3 places so that ppl who are just regular players have a chance to get it but still hardcore fractlers can get it faster so that we can progress to higher lvls of FOTM.

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Posted by: mdapol.8530

mdapol.8530

UHh what the hell are u on about. I am saying that all ascended gear should be available in fractals, because only ascended gear can be infused to give AR. And AR is unique to only fotm. So it doesnt make sense that its available through laurels or guild missions but not in Fotm itself. They should be made available in all 3 places so that ppl who are just regular players have a chance to get it but still hardcore fractlers can get it faster so that we can progress to higher lvls of FOTM.

I believe that is the plan. All the ascended gear isn’t out yet.

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Posted by: google.3709

google.3709

nah, anet is taking infused gear out fractals and into PvE general, take a look at the new infusions as well as they talked about introducing agony to dungeons.

The reason for amulets and ring and accessories can only be acquire through laurels is because Anet is trying to move out the casual game category, they want players to play more and every day if possible so laurels is the best option;

1 laurel = 1 day

Amulets 30 laurels x1 = 30 days of gameplay
Rings 35 laurels x2 = 70 days of gameplay
Accessories 40 laurels x2 = 80 days of gameplay
infusions 20 laurels x6 = 120 days of gameplay
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* 300 days of gameplay *( 200+ asuming you did every montly)

ps: would take roughly the same time with guild missions ( 12 weeks each )

Obviously anet will introduce new controlled ways to earn laurels through things like achievements etc, but for right now this will keep the players busy. Also this will buy anet time to work on fractals and decide in which direction it will be going since it will be 6 months before anyone can do fractals 50+ ( i could explain why they dont want people over 40 yet but too lazy :P)

and yes! Spy kits and food nerf was directly aimed at fractals since no content currently in-game has a difficulty that would require such items.

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Posted by: abelooi.9156

abelooi.9156

Thing is they can actually please both fractals and non-fractals crowd. I agree it’s kitten that it takes me so long to grind for ascended items I NEED to use in fotm, especially now with the guild commendation-thingy. If you don’t want fractal frequenters to have immediate access to those new shinies you put into the fractal vendor, then introduce a new drop, that you can only get in fractals that is used to buy the new ascended accessories. Or make it so you need to zamoros it with the stuffs you gather while in fotm like 100 pristine fractal, 1 glob, 20 ascalonian skin or whatever!

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Posted by: Josh.8154

Josh.8154

I personally enjoy the normal Dungeons more than Fractals. They are fun do not get me wrong, but atleast 2 have to much jumping for lower end graphics. It is hard to enjoying something when defeated cause ya fell due to yer graphics. Just frustrates the player unless there is a Mesmer in the party.

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Posted by: verd.6803

verd.6803

The reason for amulets and ring and accessories can only be acquire through laurels is because Anet is trying to move out the casual game category, they want players to play more and every day if possible so laurels is the best option

Laurels are absolutely not the best option for anything except casual gamers. It takes about 30 minutes, tops, to get a Laurel, and guess what? You can only get 1 per day on your account. This means that the most efficient way of getting gear is to play for 30 minutes, once a day.

Those of us who have time on our hands? It’s extremely kitten annoying. And good luck if you want to gear an alt—the only items you can reasonably have on multiple toons are rings and a backpack.