Any chance of making Necro's not awful on KC?

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Posted by: Roxhemar.6039

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I mean, are condi-reaper’s getting punished for doing what we do on the Keep Construct fight? Maybe, extend the burn phase so conditions can actually matter or is this an unintended consequence of Anet being Anet?

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Posted by: OnizukaBR.8537

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Well necro is not awful, any condi is for this fight, and you can spec for power reaper, its pretty strong as it have a really nice burst for the KC burning phase.

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Posted by: Roxhemar.6039

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Then why is every group convinced that they don’t? Because they’d rather just tote a bajillion Tempests around?

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Posted by: Quarktastic.1027

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Then why is every group convinced that they don’t? Because they’d rather just tote a bajillion Tempests around?

Because they know a tempest has the best burst damage in the game right now. That’s just the way it is.

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Posted by: OnizukaBR.8537

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They just want the safest way, take thief for example they can play zerk DD, everyone is ok, but if they try to play cond ( venom share ) which have good dmg and break bar god no one wants it, just like power reaper. Pugs want the safest option its just normal

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Posted by: LegACy.1296

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My pug team leader last night was adamant in bringing 2 condi reapers for KC fight, so they can bounce epidemic off each other and killed both KC and the statue together. We ended up killing KC just fine

But anyway, most teams are still going to prefer tempest over reaper for this fight, and that is FINE. Some profession are gonna be a better choice on some fight (like how on Matt or Xera people would want to have Necros to handle condis). Should Elementalist asks for lesser condis on these boss fights? Besides, if you don’t like how other people do it, you can do it like my pug team leader, make your own group

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Posted by: onevstheworld.2419

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As a long term goal, you should aim to multi class.
Classes come in and out of the meta, and being able to readily swap into a different role is a huge asset.

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Posted by: TexZero.7910

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I don’t think it’s wise to buff reaper for this specific fight at all.

Buff condi’s sure. Give KC the same treatment the Dredge Fractal bosses got with the Superheated debuff.

But that would mean tuning his healthbar again and its already something silly like 55mil.

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Posted by: Henry.5713

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Some builds shine here and others shine there. Nothing wrong with that.
Bosses wouldn’t be moving, fighting back or do pretty much anything if we wanted every single possible build to be in a perfect situation. You’d be fighting DPS practice golems then.

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Posted by: Enko.6123

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I don’t think it’s wise to buff reaper for this specific fight at all.

Buff condi’s sure. Give KC the same treatment the Dredge Fractal bosses got with the Superheated debuff.

But that would mean tuning his healthbar again and its already something silly like 55mil.

Pretty sure condis are already affected by KC’s damage buff; it’s just that condis take a bit to build up. The OP is complaining that condis aren’t bursty.

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Posted by: TexZero.7910

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I don’t think it’s wise to buff reaper for this specific fight at all.

Buff condi’s sure. Give KC the same treatment the Dredge Fractal bosses got with the Superheated debuff.

But that would mean tuning his healthbar again and its already something silly like 55mil.

Pretty sure condis are already affected by KC’s damage buff; it’s just that condis take a bit to build up. The OP is complaining that condis aren’t bursty.

I haven’t played condi for KC yet, so i’m not sure if they do or don’t. If condi’s are already amp’d then there’s no issue.

Maybe i misunderstood the initial complaint, but if the issue is the window of power for the burn phase not favoring condi, due to it being short and therefore being more designed around burst i don’t see any reason to change it at all.

Not every fight needs to be homogeneous when it comes to what classes are strong.

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Posted by: perry.9645

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reaper is ok just keep one projection alive stack up condis on it and then transfer them to KC with epidemic

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Posted by: Dinosaurs.8674

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“Any chance of making Elementalists not OP against large hitboxes” is the real question

Necros actually aren’t horrible if you stack them tbh, you just have to have your epi bounces be on point. But they are definitely worse than eles lol.

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Posted by: Rising Dusk.2408

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It’s not that Necromancer is bad by any stretch, it’s that Elementalist is so good it blows everything else out of the water. Big hit box + burn phase = nothing else can compete.

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Posted by: Mechalibur.9618

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It’s not that Necromancer is bad by any stretch, it’s that Elementalist is so good it blows everything else out of the water. Big hit box + burn phase = nothing else can compete.

Don’t forget Tempest Defense for 20% extra damage during the burn phase.

On the topic at hand, I’m not particularly upset that condis aren’t that useful against KC. Certain builds should be better for certain encounters. For example, condi is mandatory in VG, it helps a lot on Sabetha (Karde takes bonus damage from condis), and necros are godlike in every Salvation Pass encounter.

One issue is that tempests are great in every encounter. However, I think that’s okay, as they are the squishiest class; they should have the most damage to compensate, in my opinion.