Guild Wars 2

The Priestess of Dwayna is just ridiculous. Been at this crap for 6 – 7 hours and I don’t want to leave because I don’t like leaving a dungeon or anything without getting something from it (in this case the kitten shards).

Can you please fix the bugs with this dungeon too?

1. Sparks don’t seem to want to go to their “cell”
2. Players that get Petrified often get stuck petrified even when a tear is used on them

But 1. Is the biggest of them all. We get all the sparks there very fast and the first set goes fine, but the second time we get the sparks… They just don’t want to do anything except run around, and then of course the boss gets back to full HP and resets…

I spent my entire day trying to do this crap and in the end it was 7 hours 30 minutes through and I had to go. I spent my entire day trying to do this path for nothing. No shards, just a huge repair bill.

Either make the Dwayna fight a bit easier or just fix the kitten sparks. I want to be able to do this with pugs. And as I’ve seen quite a few people say “a guaranteed pug breaker” which seems true.

TL;DR

Make the Dwayna fight easier and fix the kitten bugs with it.

You want to make it with a random pug. When is the most hard challenge of the game, requiring the top performance, a final challenge. Why don’t you ask a lever at beginning, and you portal directly to last boss, 1 minute and you’re done? Something else? You want exotic dropping too?

Just collect the best players with highest dps you meet, doing dungeons. After days/week, you will have 4 players with top dps. Obiouvsly, you have to be the 5th.
This doesn’t means all the path is a glasscannon run.

There’s a difference between wanting a handout and wanting bugs to be fixed. I want bugs to be fixed. I don’t see why everyone is excited for new content when they can’t even make the content they have work properly.

Sparks don’t “run around”. They works if you just pull them properly not messing with someone near you or pets, what is strange is maybe when you have a group of sparks on same spot, and on next regen , 1 spark trigger back the boss. Could be on purpose, because that behaviour is what helps a lot, fighting.

As Lucas said sparks just don’t run around you have to learn to kite the properly and bring high dps. The grp I do this with almost every day gets it done in 3 sets of sparks. And if all else fails bring a their and stack the crap out of poison.

Your smugness is getting on my nerves. You overcompensate for a glitchy boss. That’s all you’re doing.
Some of us don’t have access to groups with the highest dps. Am I to be denied a dungeon path because I play a toughness Guardian and my guild doesn’t stack high dps necros? Get the hell out. It’s bugged. It needs to be fixed. The fact that you can beat it does not change this.

Also, double posting because this forum randomly removes the edit/quote feature from topics for no reason for me.. what the hell is this talk about “final challenge”?
My group went through path 4, spent time in there, one shot every other boss including Lupicus. We worked hard, then we were stopped by a glitchy boss.. and that’s somehow our fault for “not preparing”? Yet we could best all the other encounters in there? It isn’t even the path’s final boss! Stop fabricating justifications to make yourself feel special!

Asagi.1405:

Also, double posting because this forum randomly removes the edit/quote feature from topics for no reason for me.. what the hell is this talk about “final challenge”?
My group went through path 4, spent time in there, one shot every other boss including Lupicus. We worked hard, then we were stopped by a glitchy boss.. and that’s somehow our fault for “not preparing”? Yet we could best all the other encounters in there? It isn’t even the path’s final boss! Stop fabricating justifications to make yourself feel special!

I can understand your frustration but no need to flame. If you want some tips just ask. Even with the boss in its slightly glitchy state its still more then possible to do it with a competent party of 5. For instance:

When fighting the Avatar of Dwayna lure her into a corner or against a wall of some sort out of the range of the sparks , When she goes into her stealth mode, CONTINUE ATTACKING, shes just stealthed, not gone, which is something a lot of people fail to realize. Have your 4 highest DpSer’s Continue swinging at air and maintain as much poison on her as you can. Spider venom, Radiation field ECT. it doesn’t matter just try to limit her HP gain as much as possible. Your 5th person, preferable your tankiest, can lure all the sparks by himself. Without them constantly switching aggro its not really a problem.

Another tip is to come prepared. Bring DAMAGE based FOOD and NOURISHMENTS. The one’s that gives 10% extra dmg to undead is extremely helpful, especially if paired with butternutt squash soup or w/e gives 10% crit dmg.

This is one less favorable tip but, its still an option nonetheless. Get a party setup that will specifically help you get through the parts your struggling. I usually run a staff ele in Dungeons for the support, but I switched to D/F for this boss, using this build I gave 25 stacks of might to everyone in my party just for the extra dmg.

Once this boss is at 50% hp she stops attacking if your damage is even half decent. She’ll stealth, unstealth, repeat. No petrify’s, no AoE damage fields, nothing. It becomes the easiest boss ever which is quite ironic if you ask me. lol So change out your support options so you can assist your teammates in this DPS race.

Hope this helps.

I’m not flaming, I call arrogance as I see it.

Your tips involve overcoming a broken fight. That’s all well and good, but the fact remains THE FIGHT IS BROKEN.
Do you honestly think attacking thin-air was an intended mechanic? No. You have to overcompensate and come up with exploits to pass this fight. It is broken. We must say it is broken. So that they fix it. Sooner rather than later.

Lol. I did this in rage as we were doing the dungeon.

Sorry for venting I guess?

I am glad this fight is getting some attention, personally did this on 3 separate occasions, all failed with no success, always had people rage or something in the dungeon bugged out to prevent us from going further.

As i said in another thread Asagi. Attacking things while they are invised or stealthed is very much an intended mechanic in the game. proven by many npc mobs that stealth and you can still hit them.

Your throwing tantrums in 2 threads just because you think its bugged. That doesnt mean that it is.

Thought about this more. name me 1 mob in game other than Sinin, that you cant or not supposed to do dmg to while they are in stealth or invis.

If you can do that ill gladly concede she is broken and you are right.
If you can’t, then tell me why Sinin is the only exception to the rule.

Actually Ruien I highly doubt that it is intended that you attack her through the invis phase as she does not start regging till about 10 to 20 seconds after being invisible, so gives you time to get the sparks to the statue before she even starts to heal.
It is an option and we tried it on our kill with having 3 people on her and 2 doing the sparks but because of very bad agro from the sparks it was after all more effective to just have everyone around the statue and try to get the sparks in the traps.

The problem I have with this encounter is the the range at what sparks can attack you, if they would only be able to melee it would help a lot and the other is that it is nearly every time impossible to see which of the traps are not yet occupied. These 2 things should be fixed and then Simin is in a state where you can beat her without being overly frustrated because something does not work as it should be.

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Actually Ruien I highly doubt that it is intended that you attack her through the invis phase as she does not start regging till about 10 to 20 seconds after being invisible, so gives you time to get the sparks to the statue before she even starts to heal.
It is an option and we tried it on our kill with having 3 people on her and 2 doing the sparks but because of very bad agro from the sparks it was after all more effective to just have everyone around the statue and try to get the sparks in the traps.

The problem I have with this encounter is the the range at what sparks can attack you, if they would only be able to melee it would help a lot and the other is that it is nearly every time impossible to see which of the traps are not yet occupied. These 2 things should be fixed and then Simin is in a state where you can beat her without being overly frustrated because something does not work as it should be.

“as she does not start regging till about 10 to 20 seconds after being invisible”

False, well and truly false. She starts to heal immediately upon stealthing. Unless they changed her since I did it, in which case holy kitten, simin is cake now. Because seriously, 10-20 seconds of no regen once stealthed? That would make her so easy. I could go make a sammich and still have time to lure all the sparks with 20 seconds.

Trust me, she heals as soon as she stealths, at least she did when we killed her a few months ago.

She does. did her yesterday again. We use 1 person to get sparks in. Done it 20+ times. Much much easier to have 1 guy run and agro all 4 and then run around the statue till they all in. our mesmer has it down to roughly 10 secs. We pull her to middle of back cave away from any spark or spark agro.

people claim this boss is bugged. it just isnt. Sinin is not the exception to the rule. you must keep poison on her(provided by multiple classes. we have used a ranger,engineer, necro and a thief at one point or other) and you have to do dps to her while the sparks are being put in. it isnt an exploit. no other mob in this game that goes stealth or invis is it an exploit to do dmg to them. i cant understand why people think Sinin is different.

Because her stealth is a mechanic to get her away from the fight as she heals and is not momentary like every other stealth.

The spark prisons are bugged. Period. That you have a Mesmer that’s used to the bugs is fortunate for you. That doesn’t change that it’s bugged. It doesn’t change that you are exploiting by attacking thin air to overcome it.
Admit that the mechanic is bugged and move on.

Your just wrong man. I have tried to lay it out logically to you. You just cant grasp it. Keep on waiting for the devs to change this fight. In the mean time I’ll be looting her chest.

You’ve laid out nothing except your own bias because you’ve perfected a way to cheat over her bugs.

Yes, shame on me for expecting a boss to work as intended and not be a glitch fest. You do as you please, just don’t come here and lie about it. Part of the reason the devs are taking so long to fix things is people like you come here and misinform them.

I can say the same thing about you. Difference is, I have given you a strat, I have given you in game reasons why its a legit strat. I have logically laid my reasoning out to you.

You on the other hand has called me names, flailed your arms, given no evidence to support your claims other than your opinion and told everyone with a different opinion that they are cheaters.

who should the devs listen to?

How have I not given evidence? I have spelled out exactly what’s wrong.

At no point did I call your strat invalid. I stated it works, and that’s fine. It is however an exploit to overcome a buggy mechanic. The fact that you refuse to accept that is why nobody is taking you seriously.

Don’t start playing Mr. Innocent. You repeatedly accused me of demanding a nerf when all I want is for the spark prison mechanic to work as intended. And since I consider attacking her while hiding to be an exploit I’m in fact calling for a buff of sorts, since I want the mechanic to work and for this explot to be prevented.

You think its me they aren’t taking seriously? Man you are all kinds of messed up.

I see many recognising a glitched mechanic, and you shouting and screaming that it’s fine.
Keep charging at those windmills, man.