Guild Wars 2

hello guys and gals,
i need your help on how to defeated dwayna, and what class should i bring.
the group i was with consisted of 2 mesmers, 1 thief, and 2 warriors. 2 mesmers is the people who kite, while the thief and the warriors do the dps. the reason for this is because only the mesmers know what to do so we leave the noobs to do the damage. however, we couldn’t get her below 50%. what we did is pull her to the end of the cave, and leave those 3 to damage her while we range and then run to aggro those sparks.
is there another way of doing boss? if so, what should i bring, since being the mesmer doesn’t seems to work.
i probably should mention that this group is pug, since my friend and i just joined to help them with melandru and decided to stayed. i feel bad for not being able to finish the path, but after an hour of going at dwayna, i feel ready to pull my hairs out. so any advice is really gratefull.
thanks

Start around 00:58:30 http://www.twitch.tv/zuistreams/c/5466177

Should give you a decent idea of what to do. Three spark runners (IMO) are better than two, although it can be done very quickly with two as well. Fight the boss right where it spawns. Mesmers should save Time Warp until after the boss is respawned. Try to use stability to negate the need to throw tears during DPS phases (where EVERYONE should be DPSing), but have a designated tear thrower or two otherwise so that everyone is able to DPS for most of the phase.

I am entirely certain that a full team of players in non-damage gear with mostly non-damage traits and non-damage skills using suboptimal DPS weapons can still defeat this boss (and definitely in under an hour… I’d say 30 minutes TOPS, as a pretty big time overestimate). And everyone can pretty easily change their traits and skills to provide more damage; there’s no reason not to do so for this encounter. The only useful support (other than antiprojectile skills to make sure people keep their scholar bonus if they’re running scholar runes) for the whole thing is stability.

Hey, I posted a vid of me solo DPSing her with only getting help from 1 friend to lure sparks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxXDxRkyZo4

I know that you are doing it in a group but it might help you a lot to see the way the sparks are lured and where I fought her.

Note that it doesn’t really matter whether or not she is against the wall except for warriors for whirlwind attack. Normally in pug groups I just fight her in the middle where she spawns.

Also keep in mind that she goes into hiding based off of a global timer, so you need to deal as much damage as possible in between the increments of time that she’ll stay put in order to succeed. This is why it’s really easy to get stuck in a lousy loop of her disappearing right away and why sometimes people I’ve known had to reset the fight to progress.

In the end what matters the most is the speed at which you lure the sparks, but ranging her is definitely a bad idea.

thanks for the answer guys… i will take a look at these video and practice

Purple Miku.7032:

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Also keep in mind that she goes into hiding based off of a global timer, so you need to deal as much damage as possible in between the increments of time that she’ll stay put in order to succeed. This is why it’s really easy to get stuck in a lousy loop of her disappearing right away and why sometimes people I’ve known had to reset the fight to progress.

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Can you explain the concept of the “global timer” a bit more? I’ve never been able to figure out the exact mechanics of her myself, other than just how to beat her pretty easily. I’m just the type of person who likes to know as much as possible about boss mechanics and stuff.

Stompy.1387:

Purple Miku.7032:

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Also keep in mind that she goes into hiding based off of a global timer, so you need to deal as much damage as possible in between the increments of time that she’ll stay put in order to succeed. This is why it’s really easy to get stuck in a lousy loop of her disappearing right away and why sometimes people I’ve known had to reset the fight to progress.

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Can you explain the concept of the “global timer” a bit more? I’ve never been able to figure out the exact mechanics of her myself, other than just how to beat her pretty easily. I’m just the type of person who likes to know as much as possible about boss mechanics and stuff.

It means that the faster you run the sparks, the larger your window to DPS will be. Simin doesn’t stay revealed for a set amount of time after it pops back up.

If Simin has less than 65% health she disappears every 45 seconds. If Simin has more than 65% health she disappears at 50% health.

Wethospu.6437:

If Simin has less than 65% health she disappears every 45 seconds. If Simin has more than 65% health she disappears at 50% health.

So the 65% is the “first threshold” that a lot of groups fail to pass?
And when you say she disappears every kitten , I guess that’s not necessarily from when she reappears. It’s just a 45 second long “tick” that keeps going regardless of the situation? That would be the “global timer” PMiku was talking about

Actually now when I think about it, I’m not 100% sure of what I said. I haven’t done P4 for a long time and my notes aren’t that clear.

I’m pretty sure that 45 seconds is a global timer. So you have 45 seconds to pull sparks and deal more damage than she healed.

But then there are two possible cases

• If after 45 seconds she is over 50% she won’t disappear and timer stops, instead she waits until 50%
• If she ever gets over 65% timer stops and she disappears at 50%

Hopefully someone can test or knows which one it is. It’s pretty easy to test, just do a fast spark run, wait 45 seconds and see if she disappears over 50%. Alternatively do a really slow spark run so she gets over 65% and then burst her really hard. Extra points if you also verify that 45 seconds timer.

I’ll do that for you Wethospu and post here, next time I get around to doing P4 ^^