Guild Wars 2

Hello, did you fix anything with Dwayna boss with this patch? We could bring her down with no problem before patch on 3rd of December. Now it is impossible to kill her. We tried many tactics. Waiting for fast reply.

you gotta put 4 sparks in, wait for her to re-appear, put 1 spark in, burst her all the way down.

This was done about 20 mins ago (this was a pug formed in LA. if not for four other warriors I would have gone guardian myself). It’s messy/buggy but definitely possible. My group was having a much harder time with sparks than what I feel is intended. I do agree that something needs to be done.

We used the method described in the post above. We couldn’t dps her down all the way from ~55% so we had to send 2 to run sparks. We eventually managed to get her back at 25%, and called everyone back over to finish it up.

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/963/gw037e.jpg

Heh, looks like Simin got “fixed”.

DaveGan.8065:

This was done about 20 mins ago (this was a pug formed in LA. if not for four other warriors I would have gone guardian myself). It’s messy/buggy but definitely possible. My group was having a much harder time with sparks than what I feel is intended. I do agree that something needs to be done.

We used the method described in the post above. We couldn’t dps her down all the way from ~55% so we had to send 2 to run sparks. We eventually managed to get her back at 25%, and called everyone back over to finish it up.

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/963/gw037e.jpg

You did it with 5 warriors. From what i hear spamming warriors and bursting her down is the only way to do it.

Which is bad design. They need to fix this, wasted 3 hours down there doing this path for nothing cause this boss is terrible, unbalanced and buggy. I know they only tested the dungeons once or twice before release and didn’t think people would care about them. But they should at the very least be doable by any of the classes which is one of the things they were promoting with their dungeons.

Sonork.2916:

They need to fix this, wasted 3 hours down there doing this path for nothing cause this boss is terrible, unbalanced and buggy.

But they did fix Simin. You can no longer DPS her while she’s stealthed. Awesome fix, right?

I know they only tested the dungeons once or twice before release and didn’t think people would care about them.

Judging by the kitten quality of HotW(2,3), CoE(3) and Arah(2,4), these dungeons were not tested out of general principle.

But they should at the very least be doable by any of the classes which is one of the things they were promoting with their dungeons.

Only warriors and guardians are allowed.

Sonork.2916:

You did it with 5 warriors. From what i hear spamming warriors and bursting her down is the only way to do it.

Our team composition was definitely not optimal. A guardian (reflects/blocks/protection) and/or mesmer (time warp) would have made things much easier. We all happened to join the party as warriors and decided to stay that way for kittens n giggles. The other four were complete first-timers to path 4 and I was a second-timer (gave up at Simin last weekend).

One of the warriors was running full condition sword build. Hammer warrior was in full cleric gear. I was on knight armor/weapon (edit: I just remembered I still need to throw a sigil in that sword) with ruby trinkets. Other two had full glass gear for the fight. The three greatsword warriors were all running something like 20-20-0-10-20.

Main damage was me and one of the glass warriors. The hammer was on tear duty. Sword was the main runner, joined by the other glass most of the time. There is a DPS check, but we failed it pretty spectacularly and had to repeatedly run sparks like most other groups that attempt this. Luck or an unfamiliar mechanic may have possibly played a role when we finally triumphed, but definitely not overpowering DPS. Again, for the record, I also agree that the sparks need to be made more responsive.

DaveGan.8065:

Our team composition was definitely not optimal.
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Understatement of the galactic year.

Iehova.9518:

DaveGan.8065:

Our team composition was definitely not optimal.
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Understatement of the galactic year.

Did you read the rest of what he said? A five warrior team is most certainly suboptimal. Even one mesmer like he stated with time warp would increase dps over what one warrior could ever grant us and infact we failed the dps speed race and just had to do it the conventional method.

Dwayna is for sure harder now then it was before the patch but it can be done. Just have like two people run sparks in. One runner gets top half the second runner gets the bottom half of sparks. Make sure the people running sparks have roughly similar armor levels otherwise the sparks break aggro occasionally and it does make it a lot harder.

While Dwayna is definately hard it certainly is not bugged or impossible like some of the forum users here state. I do admit though it is a headache sometimes to pull the sparks. One thing that could be fixed is to make it so that the sparks use melee dmg instead so they follow you better and dont stop centimeters out from a rune to shoot u with a lightning bolt. Maybe making the hit box for the runes could fix some headaches too.

Reiven.2543:

Did you read the rest of what he said? A five warrior team is most certainly suboptimal.

Of course. I wouldn’t have said it otherwise.

Even one mesmer like he stated with time warp would increase dps over what one warrior could ever grant us.

2 guardians, make your warriors use GS with the glass cannon build and timewarp is not necessary. I’ve become disillusioned with mesmer viability in dungeons a long time ago.

While Dwayna is definately hard it certainly is not bugged or impossible like some of the forum users here state.

Some, myself included, consider the 4-1 spark trick a bug. A bug I’d rather they not “fix” because considering their previous “fixes” they’re more likely to kitten kitten up than actually solve anything.

Also, what’s the deal with posting your Arah4 cleared screenshots? I don’t get it.

@ lehova.9518

kk yeah fair enough about mesmer maybe but the point was that Five warriors was not an optimal team build at all.

Also fair point about the 4-1 spark trick although i was more refering to the rest of the forum posters saying the heal is bugged or w/e about the stealth. ( i admit i didnt make that clear).

Arah 4 cleared screenshots to show it can be done and not impossible as most people seem to think and to show that ive done it so im not just making this stuff up.

Reiven.2543:

i was more refering to the rest of the forum posters saying the heal is bugged or w/e about the stealth.

You’re gonna have to be more specific. The fact you can’t DPS her in stealth or that she breaks stealth when healing to 100%?

Iehova.9518:

Judging by the kitten quality of HotW(2,3), CoE(3) and Arah(2,4), these dungeons were not tested out of general principle.

What is wrong with coe(3) and arah(2)?

haviz.1340:

What is wrong with coe(3) and arah(2)?

CoE3: Evolved destroyer, champion crab and the worst combination of Alpha’s abilities.

Arah2: Deadeye/asura combo, Minefield net turrets.

These are NOT fun.

Iehova.9518:

CoE3: Evolved destroyer, champion crab and the worst combination of Alpha’s abilities.

Arah2: Deadeye/asura combo, Minefield net turrets.

These are NOT fun.

Fun is relative. Deadeye/asura combo is really easy.

haviz.1340:

Fun is relative. Deadeye/asura combo is really easy.

Difficulty and fun are not necessarily related. I found them annoying.

What’s that deadeye/asura thing ? (I’m asking about the “asura” part).

There are asura with channeled stun attacks that come along with deadeyes. Properly combo’d they one shot anything.

FUN FUN FUN.

Iehova.9518:

haviz.1340:

Fun is relative. Deadeye/asura combo is really easy.

Difficulty and fun are not necessarily related. I found them annoying.

They are annoying if you don’t know what to do.

Oh yeah I remember now.

Didn’t find them too annoying though. Except if you want to skip mobs.

haviz.1340:

They are annoying if you don’t know what to do.

They’re annoying even after you’ve run the path god knows how many times.

I’ve done this as 2 warriors, 1 guardian, 1 ranger and myself as Engineer. Only one had done it before and we made it through. It’s all about communication and patience. For once there’s actually something difficult in a guild wars 2 dungeon and people complain.

People complain because she’s bugged beyond redemption and any attempt to “fix” her pushes her to borderline unkillable.

We tried this last night with a very skilled group. All of us were in Teamspeak, we’re all fully kitted in exotic gear, and we all specced damage. The group was 2 mesmers, a guardian, an engineer and a necromancer. We were well coordinated, with the tears being used the second anyone was petrified, and the timewarps being perfectly timed one after the other.

We spent an hour and 15 minutes on the fight and still couldn’t complete it. We got her to 10% three times. Note, this isn’t one hour and 15 minutes of attempts. This was a single hour and fifteen minute attempt. Not one of us could die or and we were rarely downed. There is no danger in this fight. We tried getting her to 50% letting her regen with only 4 sparks in and then bursting her down and we couldn’t do it.

This is a horribly designed fight. It offers no danger to the players and suddenly introduces a buggy DPS check which completely limits which classes are optimal for doing it. Either her regeneration needs to be reduced by 75% or her hitpoints need to be reduced by about 1/2 (if a full exotic group, specced as glass cannons in DPS food and superior potions of undead slaying could not meet the required DPS necessary to down her, how is it reasonable to expect anyone else to?), or the sparks need to be replaced by something you can pick up and move to the required locations instead of buggy sparks which sometimes don’t get trapped, reaggro and run the wrong way, or won’t travel in a straight line.

Iehova.9518:

haviz.1340:

They are annoying if you don’t know what to do.

They’re annoying even after you’ve run the path god knows how many times.

cc or stability skills. They help.

haviz.1340:

cc or stability skills. They help.

Aye. Doesn’t make these packs any less annoying though.