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Posted by: Wicked Rin.1972

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Okay, so I did arah p2 and p3 for the first time today. It’s easier than it looks. The GL fight was pretty fun. The group use range to kill it. I know melee is faster but it just happens the two groups wanted to range. Probably worked out for the best anyway since I didn’t know what’s up. xD

So is p1 and p4 easy too?

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Posted by: Cat Has Ducks.1982

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For P1. The only thing that is challenging for new people is the 2nd mob skip. I’d recommend watching a video on it. What class you run? I can give pointers for it. Other than that, just follow the group and do what they do.

P4 is just longer, not difficult either. More bosses to kill.

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Posted by: Wicked Rin.1972

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I have all the professions geared and level 80. Thanks for the info, I’ll wing those paths too.

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Posted by: a t s e.9614

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Yea good luck on P1 skip . Thst’s why I never do p1, people can’t pass through the trash and get wiped . P4 is very easy but you need very good DPS for most of the bosses or otherwise it will take forever .

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Posted by: Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

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The p1 trash runs are exceptionally punishing to a new player, the second one being especially tough. P4 is just long and has dumb boss fights.

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Posted by: Wicked Rin.1972

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It’s more fun doing things without knowing ;p

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Posted by: a t s e.9614

a t s e.9614

Not really , my first p4 run took 7 friggin hours . We were all clueless and spent 2 hours on the first boss . You probably should watch some videos .

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Posted by: Cat Has Ducks.1982

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Not really , my first p4 run took 7 friggin hours . We were all clueless and spent 2 hours on the first boss . You probably should watch some videos .

My assumption was that someone knew what they were doing. If everyone is clueless, even AC can be difficult. That spider boss could nuke so many nubs if they weren’t aware of how that poison bomb worked.

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Posted by: TheKillerAngel.3596

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The p1 trash runs are exceptionally punishing to a new player, the second one being especially tough. P4 is just long and has dumb boss fights.

Yep.

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Posted by: Wicked Rin.1972

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Yeah, I’ll just join a group with someone knowing the path. Bosses should be easy to figure out.

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Posted by: Infamous Darkness.3284

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I will probably do p1 later today send me a tell and I’ll see if I can grab some guildies to walk you through

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Posted by: Stooperdale.3560

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Arah 1 and 4 are a bit more difficult than the other but not significantly. The problem is getting a group together that knows tactics. Without tactics it just takes a long, long time. Set aside hours. With tactics they still take longer than most dungeons, so the PUGs don’t do them, so there are no common knowledge tactics in PUG land.

SE2 is a bit similar. Not much harder but because it is longer the PUG groups never go there and never learn tactics.

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Posted by: sorrychief.2563

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The weak die in Arah.

Notice my class, with lowest hp and armor in game full zerk make it through easily.

???

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The weak die in Arah.

Notice my class, with lowest hp and armor in game full zerk make it through easily.

???

what a pro!!!!

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Posted by: a t s e.9614

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14k hp is not the lowest , what a liar . My thief has 12k in zerks . Remove.those valkyrie pieces you little cheater.

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The weak die in Arah.

Notice my class, with lowest hp and armor in game full zerk make it through easily.

???

Wow
such skills
much experience
so good

too bad skill recharge gets in the way.

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Posted by: Black Box.9312

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The weak die in Arah.

Notice my class, with lowest hp and armor in game full zerk make it through easily.

???

Man, that P3 skip must have been so hard with that obsidian flesh and mist form.

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Posted by: sorrychief.2563

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not skill I just ran with a bad pug that couldn’t even skip past trash I was like “hahaha oh wow, really?” but didn’t say anything.

The weak die in Arah.

Notice my class, with lowest hp and armor in game full zerk make it through easily.

???

Man, that P3 skip must have been so hard with that obsidian flesh and mist form.

I keep an offhand dagger too just so I can run away from those silly warriors with insane mobility, hp and damage but rtl is on a 40 second cooldown. . . hey wait wrong forum to QQ in.

14k hp is not the lowest , what a liar . My thief has 12k in zerks . Remove.those valkyrie pieces you little cheater.

All zerk, brah, I can give you some lessons with thief if you’re having trouble just PM me I’ll be HOTM chilling.

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Posted by: Isslair.4908

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Dunno what’s so hard about p1 skipping. I find deadeyes in p2 much more annoying.

A bit of advice on p1 run: either run first or wait until everyone ran through, then make you way. Because otherwise oozes can hit you while trying to hit the guy running in front of you. Running first makes a lot of skipping much easier.

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Posted by: Wicked Rin.1972

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Dunno what’s so hard about p1 skipping. I find deadeyes in p2 much more annoying.

A bit of advice on p1 run: either run first or wait until everyone ran through, then make you way. Because otherwise oozes can hit you while trying to hit the guy running in front of you. Running first makes a lot of skipping much easier.

That’s good to know.

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Posted by: a t s e.9614

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Yes please I need thief advice . How to increase my hp to 14k with a berserker gear??? I can’t get more than 12

Master Chief , help bro .

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Posted by: sorrychief.2563

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Yes please I need thief advice . How to increase my hp to 14k with a berserker gear??? I can’t get more than 12

Master Chief , help bro .

You shouldn’t be too concerned with your HP as a thief as the class has alot of stealth, teleports and evades. You probably wanna focus on damage but hey whatever floats your quaggan I know some thieves who like extra vitality in their builds.

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Posted by: TheKillerAngel.3596

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Yes please I need thief advice . How to increase my hp to 14k with a berserker gear??? I can’t get more than 12

Master Chief , help bro .

You shouldn’t be too concerned with your HP as a thief as the class has alot of stealth, teleports and evades. You probably wanna focus on damage but hey whatever floats your quaggan I know some thieves who like extra vitality in their builds.

You can run 15 acrobatics as a thief but I don’t think it’s necessary unless you’re soloing. In my experienced the dagger endurance regen and signet of agility is enough.

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Posted by: laharl.8435

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The weak die in Arah.

Notice my class, with lowest hp and armor in game full zerk make it through easily.

???

Didn’t know ele had so much hp. That’s almost 3.5k more than my guardian.

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Posted by: sorrychief.2563

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Comparing heavy armor class with alot of blocks + 5 point trait line vigor on crit and Aegis with a ton of group utility to a cloth class?

Aegis + invul + tons of reflect is a gg class. So why so many failguards in Arah?

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Chief , are you Chief Keef ? If yes I want an autograph plz

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wat? I don’t know any chief keef. my name is from BF2. you shouldn’t be drinking and driving er posting lol.

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Posted by: Lambros Augustus.6594

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Atrocious hardest part is finding players with the bottle for it. They made the dungeon too long and insipid. You get blues and greens from the chests there, its a slap in the face of old school players who expect the dragons hoard of treasure when they are fighting in the flagship dungeon.;

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Posted by: Nosoyelarty.7268

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I can’t make the trash run solo after mom ooze on a full berserker mesmer, last time tried mass invis, torch invis, decoy, and veil and nope, usually run out of swiftness, get in combat and gg, i dont really play mesmer that much in arah tho.

Im missing something or im just bad?

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Posted by: mosspit.8936

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Try to make sure you are out of combat before you make the run through the choke where the risen group is. Temporal Curtain Veil > Mass Invisibility. You should past the risen group stealthed and only break stealth somewhere near the oozes. Be careful of your pathing when approaching the drakes and the oozes. If you have to, run through the poison cloud but do not get hit by the oozes. Use Prestige here before you turn to delay the poison clouds from the drakes. Near the patch with many lesser oozes, blink over as far as you can. By then, temporal curtain should be recharged. Do the curtain to get another swiftness buff while crippling the oozes. From that point it is about leashing the drakes and lesser oozes. If you have to drop down the ledge by the crystal entities to deaggro. At any time during the run, have power cleanse on standby to cure cripple.

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Posted by: Nosoyelarty.7268

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Thanks for the advice, i thought it was not possible without running with the group or gear changes, even bought a white torch just before going into the dungeon to try it but i used bad invis rotations and null field instead of mantra of resolve. Definitely going to try your method later.

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Posted by: rfdarko.4639

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http://youtu.be/K5lAGrC_w6c

This helped me emensly with the p1 skip, which is really the only part that will give you grief on that path. It’s similar to what is described above, but I always like a good visual aid.

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Posted by: Alilinke.7690

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Yes please I need thief advice . How to increase my hp to 14k with a berserker gear??? I can’t get more than 12

Master Chief , help bro .

Looks like he’s going into water trait line, which gives vitality, but also has a lot of damage modifiers.

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Posted by: mosspit.8936

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@Nosoyelarty: It is actually easier to skip that part solo as you dont have to deal with back aggro from your team. And I often do partial solo of the path and start pugging at tar boss so I can at least say that I do actually use the method that I have given you.

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Posted by: Nosoyelarty.7268

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Yeah, just did path 1 with a pug and still had some problems, probably because bad pathing and dind’t have the torch this time. We wiped at the legendary tar (I really don’t know how you can fail at this boss but we made it!), and was happy just to try the run again but failed lol. I think ill just practice this by myself in a solo run. Didn’t know you could make it that far alone, that is impressive.

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Posted by: mosspit.8936

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I solo up to tar boss because I can control the situation by myself better. For example, by stealthing and running of out of range immediately after the ooze boss splits, you can avoid the spawning of vile oozes which is not always easy to coordinate with a pug. Another is the crystal entities have very limited cleave on their attacks so you can circle strafe melee them without them actually dmging you and just run out of the lit areas when you need to heal up. In a group, their aggro tend to split and might lead them dmg you when their intended target are someone else.